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| Steve Sobol 2005-08-21, 5:48 pm |
| F. W. wrote:
> If your teen-age son kills himself, you blame the rock
> 'n' roll musician he liked.
Someone brought this episode up in an interview with Ozzy Osbourne and asked
for his comments. (I assume you're talking about the kid who committed
suicide after listening to Black Sabbath for 24 straight hours.)
Ozzy's brilliant reply (which I am paraphrasing here) was that if the kid
listened for 24 straight hours, it must have been damned good music.
> If your neighbor crashes into a tree while driving
> home drunk, you blame the bartender.
That's a little different. The bartender has a legal responsibility not to
serve someone who is visibily intoxicated.
> God bless America, land of the free, home of the
> blame.
..sig material! May I quote you? :)
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| John Richards 2005-08-22, 2:48 am |
| Steve Sobol wrote:
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> That's a little different. The bartender has a legal responsibility not to
> serve someone who is visibily intoxicated.
Why? The bartender usually has no idea whether the guy is a driver
or whether he's getting a ride, taking a cab, or walking home.
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John Richards
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| Steve Sobol 2005-08-22, 11:48 pm |
| John Richards wrote:
> Why? The bartender usually has no idea whether the guy is a driver
> or whether he's getting a ride, taking a cab, or walking home.
Exactly. :)
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| Corvus 2005-08-24, 5:48 pm |
| Tangent: I see your point *but* it shouldnt be a bartender's (or
drinking establishment's) job to police the customers. Obviously if
someone is grossly intoxicated they should not be served, but in those
situations where it is hard to tell, especially when it is crowded and
there are people waiting, how can anyone make that judgement call 100%
accurately all of the time? These places are in business afterall to
sell alcohol. To me just another example of passing the buck and not
accepting responsibilty for ones actions...or maybe these places have
good insurance companies with deep pockets when the inevitable lawsuit
comes.
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| BruceR 2005-08-24, 11:48 pm |
| Rightly or wrongly bars and bartenders are being sued for the actions of
their inebriated customers after leaving the bar. Should they have to
be cops? Yes and no. In exchange for the privelege of have an alcohol
permit they should have a duty to minimize the damage that their
customers can do. The customers lose their ability toself police
because, well, they're drunk.
From:Corvus
corvus187@hotmail.com
> Tangent: I see your point *but* it shouldnt be a bartender's (or
> drinking establishment's) job to police the customers. Obviously if
> someone is grossly intoxicated they should not be served, but in those
> situations where it is hard to tell, especially when it is crowded and
> there are people waiting, how can anyone make that judgement call 100%
> accurately all of the time? These places are in business afterall to
> sell alcohol. To me just another example of passing the buck and not
> accepting responsibilty for ones actions...or maybe these places have
> good insurance companies with deep pockets when the inevitable lawsuit
> comes.
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