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Jerry Cloe

2006-07-31, 10:33 pm

Can anyone verify that you can or can't do data when roaming onto any of
t-mobiles 850mhz partner or roaming areas? Any differences I should be
aware of?

I've called t-mobile about this 3 times and litterally got 3 different
answers.

1 - Yeah, it all works
2 - Yep, web browsing only but cant check email or anything else.
3 - Nope, we wont guarantee anything and we just dont know, so we assume no

So, I'm looking for someone that may know, or have attempted it before.

And if it matters, I'm on the t-zones or whatever they are calling it this
month (the cheap plan, only allows basic web browsing and email, all other
ports are blocked and must use proxy server for web browsing). I also use
this in a teathered setup.


Cyrus Afzali

2006-08-01, 4:33 am

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:38:37 -0500, "Jerry Cloe"
<tom@staff.showmeisp.net> wrote:

>Can anyone verify that you can or can't do data when roaming onto any of
>t-mobiles 850mhz partner or roaming areas? Any differences I should be
>aware of?
>
>I've called t-mobile about this 3 times and litterally got 3 different
>answers.
>
>1 - Yeah, it all works
>2 - Yep, web browsing only but cant check email or anything else.
>3 - Nope, we wont guarantee anything and we just dont know, so we assume no
>
>So, I'm looking for someone that may know, or have attempted it before.


The short answer is: it depends. Roaming agreements vary with the
various carriers. Some only give us voice coverage and not GPRS, and
some give us everything.

I wouldn't be surprised if, for the most part, you only get voice.
That's the way it is with Unicel in the Northeast, and I believe it's
the same with others.
>
>And if it matters, I'm on the t-zones or whatever they are calling it this
>month (the cheap plan, only allows basic web browsing and email, all other
>ports are blocked and must use proxy server for web browsing). I also use
>this in a teathered setup.
>

Thomas T. Veldhouse

2006-08-01, 7:33 am

In alt.cellular.t-mobile Jerry Cloe <tom@staff.showmeisp.net> wrote:
> Can anyone verify that you can or can't do data when roaming onto any of
> t-mobiles 850mhz partner or roaming areas? Any differences I should be
> aware of?
>
> I've called t-mobile about this 3 times and litterally got 3 different
> answers.
>
> 1 - Yeah, it all works
> 2 - Yep, web browsing only but cant check email or anything else.
> 3 - Nope, we wont guarantee anything and we just dont know, so we assume no
>


#3 is correct. You might get features and you might not, depending upon where
you are.

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Mike Schumann

2006-08-02, 4:33 am

CSD does NOT work on Dobson.

Mike Schumann

"Jerry Cloe" <tom@staff.showmeisp.net> wrote in message
news:eam75q$97i$1@ja
miebaillie.com...
> Can anyone verify that you can or can't do data when roaming onto any of
> t-mobiles 850mhz partner or roaming areas? Any differences I should be
> aware of?
>
> I've called t-mobile about this 3 times and litterally got 3 different
> answers.
>
> 1 - Yeah, it all works
> 2 - Yep, web browsing only but cant check email or anything else.
> 3 - Nope, we wont guarantee anything and we just dont know, so we assume
> no
>
> So, I'm looking for someone that may know, or have attempted it before.
>
> And if it matters, I'm on the t-zones or whatever they are calling it this
> month (the cheap plan, only allows basic web browsing and email, all other
> ports are blocked and must use proxy server for web browsing). I also use
> this in a teathered setup.
>
>



klugja@hotmail.com

2006-08-03, 7:33 am

Mike Schumann wrote:
> CSD does NOT work on Dobson.
>
> Mike Schumann

GPRS does work with Dobson (wap and internet2). Our Sony Ericsson T616
(unlocked) requires powering off and powering on to get a GPRS signal
when crossing into Dobson in Minnesota. Voice switches over just fine.

Nothing shows up on the bill for roaming, and we have used it
(patiently) for internet access at our cabin.

Does this mean there are no data roaming charges for anyone?

Jerry Cloe

2006-08-03, 10:33 am


<klugja@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1154608204.496640.182190@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Mike Schumann wrote:
>
> Nothing shows up on the bill for roaming, and we have used it
> (patiently) for internet access at our cabin.
>
> Does this mean there are no data roaming charges for anyone?


I have consistently been told by t-mobile that regardless of what works and
what doesn't, I shouldn't expect to see any additional charges when I am
roaming. The only catch to this seems to be that my t-mobile to t-mobile
minutes do not apply, so if I call another t-mobile phone, they are coming
out of the regular minutes (I asked for clarification, and the response
seems to be on evenings/weekends I'm completely unlimited, and during the
day, calling another t-mobile phone just comes out of my anytime minutes).



Cyrus Afzali

2006-08-30, 3:33 pm

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:13:38 GMT, "Mike Schumann"
<mike-nospam@traditions-nospam.com> wrote:

>CSD does NOT work on Dobson.


Just to provide more fodder for this topic, I was recently in the
Southeast (TN, to be exact) and could NOT roam on Cingular's 850
network, despite having a capable device and roaming maps that showed
we could.

T-Mobile's CSRs opened a trouble ticket and said I should update my
handheld's software, which I couldn't do since I didn't travel with my
cable or a copy of the Blackberry software. So, as of now, I'm not
sure exactly what the problem is, but it's the first time I've been
unable to roam in an area where I should have.
>
>Mike Schumann
>
>"Jerry Cloe" <tom@staff.showmeisp.net> wrote in message
> news:eam75q$97i$1@ja
miebaillie.com...
>

JPH

2006-08-30, 10:33 pm

Not sure what part of TN you were in, but I was in Knoxville, Gatlinburg
and Pigeon Forge TN last week and was able to roam on Cingular and had
access to web and emails. At first I didn't have coverage, but I
remembered someone recently suggested to turn the phone off, take the
battery out, put it back in, so I tried that and after I turned it back
on the phone went from zero coverage to 3-4 bars on Cingular. I also
have a Blackberry, 7105.
Now I don't know if I was on the 850 network or not, but at least I was
on a network.

JPH

Cyrus Afzali wrote:[color=darkred
]
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 05:13:38 GMT, "Mike Schumann"
> <mike-nospam@traditions-nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Just to provide more fodder for this topic, I was recently in the
> Southeast (TN, to be exact) and could NOT roam on Cingular's 850
> network, despite having a capable device and roaming maps that showed
> we could.
>
> T-Mobile's CSRs opened a trouble ticket and said I should update my
> handheld's software, which I couldn't do since I didn't travel with my
> cable or a copy of the Blackberry software. So, as of now, I'm not
> sure exactly what the problem is, but it's the first time I've been
> unable to roam in an area where I should have.
>
Cyrus Afzali

2006-08-31, 12:33 pm

On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:08:04 -0500, JPH < jphagcanbereached@co
x.net>
wrote:

>Not sure what part of TN you were in, but I was in Knoxville, Gatlinburg
>and Pigeon Forge TN last week and was able to roam on Cingular and had
>access to web and emails. At first I didn't have coverage, but I
>remembered someone recently suggested to turn the phone off, take the
>battery out, put it back in, so I tried that and after I turned it back
>on the phone went from zero coverage to 3-4 bars on Cingular. I also
>have a Blackberry, 7105.
>Now I don't know if I was on the 850 network or not, but at least I was
>on a network.


I was in the western part of the state, about an hour from Jackson. I
did the battery thing and rebooted the Blackberry. Since returning
back to NY, I upgraded the operating software on the phone, which
might help the situation. But I've roamed on 850 networks before doing
that, so I suspect something was up.[color=darkred]
>
>JPH
>
>Cyrus Afzali wrote:
John Cummings

2006-09-04, 4:33 am

"JPH" < jphagcanbereached@co
x.net> wrote in message
news:EnsJg.8261$Tl4.6609@dukeread06...
> Not sure what part of TN you were in, but I was in Knoxville, Gatlinburg
> and Pigeon Forge TN last week and was able to roam on Cingular and had
> access to web and emails. At first I didn't have coverage, but I
> remembered someone recently suggested to turn the phone off, take the
> battery out, put it back in, so I tried that and after I turned it back
> on the phone went from zero coverage to 3-4 bars on Cingular. I also
> have a Blackberry, 7105.
> Now I don't know if I was on the 850 network or not, but at least I was
> on a network.
>
> JPH

Cingular's Knoxville and east network is PCS only. There's 850 MHz cellular
in
the Chattanooga area, as well as Middle and West Tennessee. There an
additional
patch of PCS only in NW TN, Dyersburg to Paris and north.

John C.


danny burstein

2006-09-04, 4:33 am

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I was in upstate NY a couple of weeks ago near
Fallsberg, NY (that's about 10 miles northeest
of Monticello.

I lost coverage somewhere or another on
NYS Route 17 (soon to be interrstate , umm, something).

Anyway, _after_ having to find payphones up
there (which is another story) and meeting up
with my friends, I had the bright idea of
doing network searches. Sure enough, there
was a strong signal for Dobson Cellular
and I was able to call out on it.

Per the t-mobile map, that area is
listed as 850 mhz roaming coverage.

(My phone is a many years old Nokia 3595, and
my SIM is an ancient Omnipoint one. I don't
know if newer phones/sims will roam
automatically).

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Cyrus Afzali

2006-09-05, 3:33 pm

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On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 04:41:05 +0000 (UTC), danny burstein
<dannyb@panix.com> wrote:

> [ msc snippage ]
>
>
>I was in upstate NY a couple of weeks ago near
>Fallsberg, NY (that's about 10 miles northeest
>of Monticello.
>
>I lost coverage somewhere or another on
>NYS Route 17 (soon to be interrstate , umm, something).
>
>Anyway, _after_ having to find payphones up
>there (which is another story) and meeting up
>with my friends, I had the bright idea of
>doing network searches. Sure enough, there
>was a strong signal for Dobson Cellular
>and I was able to call out on it.
>
>Per the t-mobile map, that area is
>listed as 850 mhz roaming coverage.
>
>(My phone is a many years old Nokia 3595, and
>my SIM is an ancient Omnipoint one. I don't
>know if newer phones/sims will roam
>automatically).


I've had to do manual searches a lot with Nokias, which I love, by the
way, regardless of the SIM age. TM officially says the age of the SIM
can make a difference, but I don't see how it technically should, as
long as there's space on it to hold the new roaming table info.
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