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| Brian Ludwig 2005-10-23, 5:48 pm |
| Hi everyone
Just to let you know I've been trying to sell my MAP76S on Amazon.co.uk and
today received a scam message which I replied to before realising the fraud.
It asked me to send the machine to Nigeria for a Xmas present and said the
would pay by BidPay agent.
DO NOT believe anything like this if you ever sell over the net. I almost
lost a perfect GPS. I would rather give it away than to have it stolen like
this.
Regards to all
Brian
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| Thanks, and this is a very common occurrence by some so-called "buyers" on
Ebay. Best to avoid them.
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"Brian Ludwig" <Ludwig@Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:78O6f.168790$RW.168361@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Hi everyone
> Just to let you know I've been trying to sell my MAP76S on Amazon.co.uk
and
> today received a scam message which I replied to before realising the
fraud.
> It asked me to send the machine to Nigeria for a Xmas present and said the
> would pay by BidPay agent.
> DO NOT believe anything like this if you ever sell over the net. I almost
> lost a perfect GPS. I would rather give it away than to have it stolen
like
> this.
Thanks, but where is the intent to fraud ?
Poul B-H
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| Dale Brisket 2005-10-23, 5:48 pm |
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"Brian Ludwig" <Ludwig@Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:78O6f.168790$RW.168361@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Hi everyone
> Just to let you know I've been trying to sell my MAP76S on Amazon.co.uk
and
> today received a scam message which I replied to before realising the
fraud.
> It asked me to send the machine to Nigeria for a Xmas present and said the
> would pay by BidPay agent.
> DO NOT believe anything like this if you ever sell over the net. I almost
> lost a perfect GPS. I would rather give it away than to have it stolen
like
> this.
> Regards to all
>
> Brian
>
And wouldn't you verify payment *before* shipping, regardless of who the
buyer may be?
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| I. Care 2005-10-23, 5:48 pm |
| In article < 435bbb72$0$199$edfad
b0f@dread11.news.tele.dk>,
<svar_i_gruppen> says...
>
> "Brian Ludwig" <Ludwig@Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:78O6f.168790$RW.168361@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> and
> fraud.
> like
>
> Thanks, but where is the intent to fraud ?
>
> Poul B-H
>
>
>
Read here:
http://www.joewein.de/sw/fraud-west...bidpay-ebay.htm
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I. Care
Address fake until the SPAM goes away ;-}
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| GeoffP 2005-10-23, 5:48 pm |
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"Dale Brisket" <& #91;nospam]jhansman@
pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:GvP6f.18240$6e1.8729@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>
>
> "Brian Ludwig" <Ludwig@Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:78O6f.168790$RW.168361@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> and
> fraud.
> like
> And wouldn't you verify payment *before* shipping, regardless of who the
> buyer may be?
>
>====
Give the Guy a break. He was only trying to help Sheesh!
Geoff.
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| Brian Ludwig 2005-10-23, 5:48 pm |
|
<svar_i_gruppen> wrote in message
news:435bbb72$0$199$
edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk...
>
> "Brian Ludwig" <Ludwig@Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:78O6f.168790$RW.168361@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> and
> fraud.
> like
>
> Thanks, but where is the intent to fraud ?
>
> Poul B-H
>
The goods are sent but payment is never received
Brian
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| Brian Ludwig 2005-10-23, 5:48 pm |
|
"Dale Brisket" <& #91;nospam]jhansman@
pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:GvP6f.18240$6e1.8729@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>
>
> "Brian Ludwig" <Ludwig@Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:78O6f.168790$RW.168361@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> and
> fraud.
> like
> And wouldn't you verify payment *before* shipping, regardless of who the
> buyer may be?
>
Hense the warning
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| Brian Ludwig 2005-10-23, 5:48 pm |
|
"GeoffP" <Geoff@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3dQ6f.2653$Nj3.95064@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
> "Dale Brisket" <& #91;nospam]jhansman@
pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:GvP6f.18240$6e1.8729@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> Give the Guy a break. He was only trying to help Sheesh!
> Geoff.
Thanks Geoff - just so -better to be informed.
Cheers
Brian
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| Nospam@nowhere.com 2005-10-23, 5:48 pm |
| Apparently on date Sun, 23 Oct 2005 18:38:59 GMT, "Brian Ludwig"
<Ludwig@Blueyonder.co.uk> said:
>
><svar_i_gruppen> wrote in message
> news:435bbb72$0$199$
edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk...
>The goods are sent but payment is never received
The more usual thing is that the goods are left with you, you get a cheque
payment (which clears) and you send on the surplus to some other person by your
own cheque payment which your bank, unlike their bank, honours despite the fact
that a fraud is happening.
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| 45.4252-75.7000 2005-10-23, 5:48 pm |
| On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:12:06 GMT, "Dale Brisket"
<& #91;nospam]jhansman@
pacbell.net> wrote in
news:GvP6f.18240$6e1.8729@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
> "Brian Ludwig" <Ludwig@Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:78O6f.168790$RW.168361@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> And wouldn't you verify payment *before* shipping, regardless of who
> the buyer may be?
In the case of these frauds, the payment does *clear* your local
bank who then informs you that the bank at the other end
has refused payment and requires that you pay them back.
If you want any kind of recourse, don't ship out of your
own country. Even then, no guarantees.
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| Dale Brisket 2005-10-23, 11:48 pm |
| "45.4252-75.7000" <gpsStuff@Yellow.eTrex> wrote in message
news:Xns96F8A52D2A9C
4etrexgps@216.196.97.142...
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:12:06 GMT, "Dale Brisket"
> <& #91;nospam]jhansman@
pacbell.net> wrote in
> news:GvP6f.18240$6e1.8729@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
>
>
> In the case of these frauds, the payment does *clear* your local
> bank who then informs you that the bank at the other end
> has refused payment and requires that you pay them back.
>
> If you want any kind of recourse, don't ship out of your
> own country. Even then, no guarantees.
>
Ah, now that's a point worth noting. I ship to Canada, but that's it. So
far, so good.....
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| Avstral 2005-10-24, 2:48 am |
| The story is always nearly the same - "I want to buy ....whatever... I
guarantee payment with a (fake) credit card or by instant Western Union
payment etc etc. usually with some story attached. These stupid requests
normally originate from Nigeria, Indonesia, Italy and more recently China.
Don't get me wrong I believe in international trade and I do business with
international sellers. There just seems to be a lot of scammers particularly
hacking into ebay. Always check the location of item and see if it
corresponds to the sellers location. Correspond with the seller or buyer
through the ebay email section and not through any email link on the
listing. I have been surprised several times where the seller has stated
"I'm not selling this." Consequently report these issues to ebay.
"Brian Ludwig" <Ludwig@Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:78O6f.168790$RW.168361@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Hi everyone
> Just to let you know I've been trying to sell my MAP76S on Amazon.co.uk
> and today received a scam message which I replied to before realising the
> fraud.
> It asked me to send the machine to Nigeria for a Xmas present and said the
> would pay by BidPay agent.
> DO NOT believe anything like this if you ever sell over the net. I almost
> lost a perfect GPS. I would rather give it away than to have it stolen
> like this.
> Regards to all
>
> Brian
>
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"Avstral" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:435c61a3$0$4972
$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> The story is always nearly the same - "I want to buy ....whatever... I
> guarantee payment with a (fake) credit card or by instant Western Union
> payment etc etc. usually with some story attached. These stupid requests
> normally originate from Nigeria, Indonesia, Italy and more recently China.
>
> Don't get me wrong I believe in international trade and I do business with
> international sellers. There just seems to be a lot of scammers
> particularly hacking into ebay. Always check the location of item and see
> if it corresponds to the sellers location. Correspond with the seller or
> buyer through the ebay email section and not through any email link on the
> listing. I have been surprised several times where the seller has stated
> "I'm not selling this." Consequently report these issues to ebay.
>
>
> "Brian Ludwig" <Ludwig@Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:78O6f.168790$RW.168361@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
Thanks everyone for the advice - I now know that trusting 'some' poeople is
a mistake. From the start I was very suspicious which is why I still have
the GPS !
Cheers
Oh and if any body here wants a Garmin GPS Map76S for less than £200 in
perfedct condition let me know - at least I can trsut you all !
Thanks
Brian
BTW I've changed my email address for Newsgroups as well :-)
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| Mike Scott 2005-10-24, 5:48 pm |
| 45.4252-75.7000 wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:12:06 GMT, "Dale Brisket"
> <& #91;nospam]jhansman@
pacbell.net> wrote in
> news:GvP6f.18240$6e1.8729@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
>
>
>
>
> In the case of these frauds, the payment does *clear* your local
> bank who then informs you that the bank at the other end
> has refused payment and requires that you pay them back.
>
> If you want any kind of recourse, don't ship out of your
> own country. Even then, no guarantees.
>
Or, of course, require payment by western union, and don't ship till
you've got the cash in hand.
But they'd not go along with that :-)
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"Mike Scott" <usenet.9@spam.stopper.scottsonline.org.uk> wrote in message
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> 45.4252-75.7000 wrote:
> Or, of course, require payment by western union, and don't ship till
> you've got the cash in hand.
>
> But they'd not go along with that :-)
>
> --
> Please use the corrected version of the address below for replies.
> Replies to the header address will be junked, as will mail from
> various domains listed at www.scottsonline.org.uk
> Mike Scott Harlow Essex England.(unet -a-t- scottsonline.org.uk)
Very true !
Brian
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