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GPS Bicycle advice needed
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| Stephan Viftrup 2007-11-13, 7:33 am |
| I would like to use a GPS device on my bicycle while riding it in the
city, and get audible route information in my headphones, so I don't
have look at an display.
What kind of software could do this? What kind of hardware would you
suggest for this? How could you handle issues with interaction, power
(batteries) or mounting?
It would be great if the software could run on my cell phone or mp3
player in my pocket.
Cheers,
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| Andrew 2007-11-13, 7:33 am |
| On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:15:43 +0100, Stephan Viftrup <sviftrup@mac.com>
wrote:
>I would like to use a GPS device on my bicycle while riding it in the
>city, and get audible route information in my headphones, so I don't
>have look at an display.
>
>What kind of software could do this? What kind of hardware would you
>suggest for this? How could you handle issues with interaction, power
>(batteries) or mounting?
>
>It would be great if the software could run on my cell phone or mp3
>player in my pocket.
That all depends on your phone and how long your journeys will be. If
you can run Tomtom on your phone that may do the job.
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| Stephan Viftrup 2007-11-13, 12:33 pm |
| On 2007-11-13 12:30:12 +0100, Andrew <spamtrap@127.0.0.1> said:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:15:43 +0100, Stephan Viftrup <sviftrup@mac.com>
> wrote:
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> That all depends on your phone and how long your journeys will be. If
> you can run Tomtom on your phone that may do the job.
HI Andrew
Do you have any experience yourself with any phones that could do the
job? My current one would certainly not be able to do the job.
Obviously the phone needs to be with GPS but is there any other
requirements. Perhaps symbian phones could do the trick?
stephan
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| erasmo 2007-11-13, 3:33 pm |
| On Nov 13, 5:15 am, Stephan Viftrup <svift...@mac.com> wrote:
> I would like to use a GPS device on my bicycle while riding it in the
> city, and get audible route information in my headphones, so I don't
> have look at an display.
>
> What kind of software could do this? What kind of hardware would you
> suggest for this? How could you handle issues with interaction, power
> (batteries) or mounting?
>
> It would be great if the software could run on my cell phone or mp3
> player in my pocket.
>
> Cheers,
no intention to sound rude, but: are you sure using headphones while
cycling is the best way (security-wise) to receive GPS routing
indications ?
visually wouldn't be better ? at least considering that you could at
least hear the upcoming cars approaching ?
or maybe you are into MTB (offroad: no cars around) and my post is
completely out of place :-)
regards
--
GPS Cycling Tours
http://erasmo.r8.org
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| "Stephan Viftrup" <sviftrup@mac.com> wrote in
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> I would like to use a GPS device on my bicycle while riding it in the
> city, and get audible route information in my headphones, so I don't
> have look at an display.
How lucky you are living in a country where wearing headphones when
bicycling is not prohibited!
In my home country, the first policeman you meet at the next street crossing
will stop you. Your equipment will be confiscated and you will have to pay a
good fee.
C.Ret
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| "CRet" <c.ret@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> "Stephan Viftrup" <sviftrup@mac.com> wrote in
> news:4739875f$0$7611
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> How lucky you are living in a country where wearing headphones when
> bicycling is not prohibited!
> In my home country, the first policeman you meet at the next street crossing
> will stop you. Your equipment will be confiscated and you will have to pay a
> good fee.
You must be living in Iraq <bg> because here in America <bg> we have many
different types of headphones (not the one look like noise blocker) like the
one we use with cellphone called BlueTooth Headset (we don't call HeadPhone
but HeadSet), and CB WalkieTalkie type some motocycle folks wear to
communicate with other (similar to Headset and I believe built or hook to
halmet). And many new small headphones people use on portable MP3 you can
still be able to head and talk with people with the headphone on.
Yup! there is some rule/law, but not to all headgear or depending on the
type of headgear/headset you use.
> C.Ret
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| Stephan Viftrup 2007-11-14, 4:33 am |
| On 2007-11-14 08:53:24 +0100, Joe <joe@home.com> said:
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> "CRet" <c.ret@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
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> You must be living in Iraq <bg> because here in America <bg> we have many
> different types of headphones (not the one look like noise blocker) like the
> one we use with cellphone called BlueTooth Headset (we don't call HeadPhone
> but HeadSet), and CB WalkieTalkie type some motocycle folks wear to
> communicate with other (similar to Headset and I believe built or hook to
> halmet). And many new small headphones people use on portable MP3 you can
> still be able to head and talk with people with the headphone on.
>
> Yup! there is some rule/law, but not to all headgear or depending on the
> type of headgear/headset you use.
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Well yeah i live in Denmark and we have no regislation in that area.
Many people on bicycle uses ipods or other mp3 players on their way to
work.
So actually i thougt using sound was more safe than visual since you
then didn't have to look away from the road and down on a small
display. I didn't know i was against the law anywhere else :)
so i guess thats why few have had any great ideas in this area.
Stephan
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| Andrew 2007-11-14, 4:33 am |
| On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:36:09 +0100, Stephan Viftrup <sviftrup@mac.com>
wrote:
>Do you have any experience yourself with any phones that could do the
>job? My current one would certainly not be able to do the job.
I use a Mio A701 with Tomtom for driving. I am not sure how well it
would work for cycling using just the audio, but you could probably
live with it.
>Obviously the phone needs to be with GPS but is there any other
>requirements. Perhaps symbian phones could do the trick?
Lots of phones can connect to an external GPS receiver, it is more a
case of finding one that runs the software you want.
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| Stephan Viftrup <sviftrup@mac.com> wrote:
> On 2007-11-14 08:53:24 +0100, Joe <joe@home.com> said:
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> Well yeah i live in Denmark and we have no regislation in that area.
> Many people on bicycle uses ipods or other mp3 players on their way to
> work.
>
> So actually i thougt using sound was more safe than visual since you
> then didn't have to look away from the road and down on a small
> display. I didn't know i was against the law anywhere else :)
>
> so i guess thats why few have had any great ideas in this area.
>
> Stephan
The problem we have that many people get stuck in one country and think
there is no other country/law in the world.
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| ben brugman 2007-11-14, 10:33 pm |
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"Stephan Viftrup" <sviftrup@mac.com> schreef in bericht
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>I would like to use a GPS device on my bicycle while riding it in the city,
>and get audible route information in my headphones, so I don't have look at
>an display.
>
> What kind of software could do this? What kind of hardware would you
> suggest for this? How could you handle issues with interaction, power
> (batteries) or mounting?
>
> It would be great if the software could run on my cell phone or mp3 player
> in my pocket.
>
> Cheers,
>
Hello Stephan,
I use a Garmin Maps 60.
It does have navigation, but is more of an outdoor GPS.
It lasts long on one set of batteries (penlights).
I didn't buy it for a bicycle (or a car) but can be used for that.
My experience with the car is that although not as suetable
as dedicated systems is works well in a car.
On a bicycle it works less well because the map material
is not especially adapted to bicycles. So most bicycle lanes
are not on it, most information is car geared (one way streets,
or streets you can not enter with a car but are both ways
for bicycles).
Garmin uses Navteq maps, but TeleAtlas maps are not
much better for bicycles.
It's fun using the GPS on a bicycle, and the device is suetable
for it, but the map information is not realy geared for bicycles.
So when I use it in an area that I am familiar with I notice that
I get set on a detour a lot, just because it doesn't know which
routes are available to bicycles.
ben
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| Christoph Bouthillier 2007-11-17, 10:33 pm |
| "Stephan Viftrup" <sviftrup@mac.com> schreef in bericht
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>I would like to use a GPS device on my bicycle while riding it in the city,
>and get audible route information in my headphones, so I don't have look at
>an display.
>
> What kind of software could do this? What kind of hardware would you
> suggest for this? How could you handle issues with interaction, power
> (batteries) or mounting?
>
> It would be great if the software could run on my cell phone or mp3 player
> in my pocket.
>
> Cheers,
>
Hello Stephan:
First of all I do not see any problems with an earphone. You do not need a
stereo one and also not one with the ears fully enclosed. Moreover the
talking from the GPS is very sporadic, more or less only before/at
junctions.
I have some (limited, just a few kilometers in Holland with of course
excellent bicycle paths) experience with GPS-es on a bicyle on the road:
a) Nokia 6680 + TomTom software + TomTom Sirf III receiver + earphone:
Advantages: clear audible commands, bicycle routing possible
Disadvantages: in bad weather you cannot keep the Nokia on the handlebar.
Seeing the map BESIDES listening to the voice is however very pleasant,
voice only is too meager in my opinion. You need 2 devices (unless you have
GPS in the phone). TomTom on that Nokia and incoming/placing calls at the
same time is pretty much impossible due to (I suppose) memory problems. No
off-road routes through the woods etc. The TomTom receiver is very good,
almost waterproof but does by far not keep the promise of approx. 11 hours
on a charged battery. Nokia has a tendency to crash.
I also tried the loudspeaker of the phone which was in my breast pocket.
Well, that is OK in a quiet street but no good in busy traffic.
b) Garmin GPSmap 60 Csx; most preferably with maps with autorouting (you
might be interested in www.geodude.nl).
Advantages: can be mounted very easily on the handlebar, waterproof, long
battery life. Acceptable "pointing" by means of arrows, automatic switching
to map and back to arrows. Very exact measurements towards junctions (every
5 meters or so; TomTom is communicating mora coarsely about frequently about
distances). Extremely precise maps if you overlay top maps over street maps.
In Holland the tiniest footpath in the woods in on the topo map! And many of
those small paths are suitable (only) for bicycles. Set the device to
battery saving mode - that is fast enough (5 seconds I believe) for a
bicycle.
Disadvantages: no spoken commands, only various beeps but these are very
quiet - too quiet in a busy street. No earphone connection. Map picture less
clear than / not as simple as on the TomTom screen (which is very good on
the Nokia).
--
In both devices you can set the backlight to "always on". Just for fun you
might have a look at
http://www.tekstotaal.com/c.gsm.flashinglight.html
My personal advice would be leaning more towards the Garmin. It never
crashes the software, has a lot of other extras, works in the woods.
HTH!
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Met vriendelijke groet / Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards
Christoph Bouthillier
p o s t <<a t>> oh-no-spam t e k s t o t a a l << d o t >> c o m
Forget the oh-no-spam
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| >I would like to use a GPS device on my bicycle while riding it in the city, and get audible route information in my headphones, so
>I don't have look at an display.
I do not know where you are, but Verizon Wireless has VZNavigator for many cellphones. I used a phone with it in Florida a while
ago. It did a good job, even with the small phone screen. It also had audio instructions. If you use a bluetooth earphone, there
is no need for a connecting wire. I believe it had no specific bicycle instructions, though. My only caveat is your minutes will
evaporate quickly if misused.
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| Tony Harding 2007-11-25, 3:33 pm |
| Stephan Viftrup wrote:
> I would like to use a GPS device on my bicycle while riding it in the
> city, and get audible route information in my headphones, so I don't
> have look at an display.
>
> What kind of software could do this? What kind of hardware would you
> suggest for this? How could you handle issues with interaction, power
> (batteries) or mounting?
>
> It would be great if the software could run on my cell phone or mp3
> player in my pocket.
Verizon offers cell phones that do this, but it costs an extra $15-20
month (IIRC).
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| Lakro Mani 2007-12-14, 4:33 am |
| A good solution fom Garmin is
Edge 305
"Stephan Viftrup" <sviftrup@mac.com> wrote in message
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>I would like to use a GPS device on my bicycle while riding it in the city,
>and get audible route information in my headphones, so I don't have look at
>an display.
>
> What kind of software could do this? What kind of hardware would you
> suggest for this? How could you handle issues with interaction, power
> (batteries) or mounting?
>
> It would be great if the software could run on my cell phone or mp3 player
> in my pocket.
>
> Cheers,
>
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| ben brugman 2007-12-14, 12:33 pm |
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"Lakro Mani" <lakromani@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
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>A good solution fom Garmin is
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> Edge 305
The Edge 305 does not have mapping or autorouting.
In jan 2008 the Edge 605 and Edge 705 come to marked, they have mapping and
routing capabilities. But I do not know about the audible route information.
(From the Garmin site : "and get turn-by-turn directions on a
sunlight-readable, color display as you pedal. ")
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