| Jan Nademlejnsky 2007-12-18, 10:33 pm |
| You should get a life and stop harassing these groups. STOP THIS NON SENSE!
<MI5-Victim@mi5.gov.uk> wrote in message news:m07111618093772
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> MI5 Have Systematically Destroyed My Life
>
> This is getting depressing. From the feedback Ive received, the recipients
> of these faxes are tired of hearing my complaints, and in truth I am tired
> of sending them. The reason I havent yet ceased sending faxes is because I
> cannot think of any other effective means of replying to MI5s actions
> against me, and I feel I have to do something to try to defend
> myself. Three/four years ago I got the MI5 harassment out of my system by
> posting about it on Internet newsgroups, and for a few months this tactic
> was quite effective - I received (and indeed still do today) support from
> newsgroup regulars, and felt I could make my voice heard and break the MI5
> monopoly on access to the British media. But that was years ago, and today
> nobody gives a tinkers cuss about my internet posts - so I have sought to
> escalate matters by communicating directly with the politicians who
> allegedly say how this country is supposed to be run.
>
> Of course, its quite expensive to keep up a campaign of fax messages for
> many weeks. Each set of faxes takes approx 50 hours to send over the
> weekend, and costs perhaps 35. My phone bill for the last quarter was
> 350. These figures are naturally insignificant compared to what MI5 have
> been spending against me over a similar period. It also takes a lot of
> time and energy to create a new article every week, and try and find new
> and fresh aspects and viewpoints on MI5s persecution of me. I am beginning
> to run out of both new topics and energy to write these articles.
>
> So I have a suggestion to put before the MI5 persecutors who have been
> wrecking my life since 1990. In a few days time I will be going on holiday
> to Poland and Germany, for a couple of weeks. Previously, almost every
> time I have travelled by plane, or gone anywhere on holiday, the MI5
> "wreckers" have been most assiduous in destroying these trips. My
> suggestion is; if MI5 leave me alone on this next trip, I will cease
> transmitting these articles. If, however, there are any clear instances of
> harassment (and I am very capable of recognising MI5 harassment when I see
> it), then I will make public these instances and publish any recordings I
> may make of them, and, unwillingly and unhappily, continue the articles.
>
> Read about the MI5 Persecution on the Web
>
> Keith Hill MP (Labour - Streatham), my elected representative, as ever
> refuses to help.
>
>
> MI5 Refuse to Allow me to have a Normal Life
>
> Its kind of difficult to contemplate having a normal existence when you
> know your entire house is bugged from top to bottom, for audio and, very
> unpleasantly, video; when your employment is systematically destroyed,
> over and over again; when every time you leave the country your travel is
> disrupted by MI5 plants on the plane yelling abuse at you..... you get the
> idea. I would like to have some semblance of a normal life, like my Polish
> and English friends do. But MI5 have made this impossible, and they have
> leached massive resources from the taxpayer to institute a life not worthy
> of the name on me.
>
> A few years ago MI5 were very open about their aims in persecuting
> me. They were shouting "suicide" at me, both in Canada where I lived at
> the time, and during my occasional visits to London. You cant get much
> clearer than that. There have been instances as recently as a few weeks
> ago of this intention being voiced by their side; on 15 April 1999, a
> woman at the next ticket counter at the Royal Festival Hall said;
>
> "it would kill it, you know, it would just be overkill... they can't stop
> can they"
>
> meaning that "they" were trying to "kill it" i.e. me and they "cant
> stop". The audio file is at;
>
>
> I wonder why they "cant stop". Nobody (who doesnt know already) believes
> my claims - so what difference would it make, if they were to
> "stop" persecuting me? Perhaps what this persons remarks indicates, is the
> depth of the obsession MI5 have with this case. They have chosen at random
> a person from the general population, and done their worst to ruin my
> life. What is wrong with these people, that they persecute a national of
> the country whose citizens they are supposed to protect?
>
> No Chance of a Harassment-Free Job
>
> Since the harassment started in 1990 I have had three jobs, the first near
> Guildford, the second in Oxford, and the third overseas in Canada. All
> three jobs have been systematically destroyed by MI5. It is so ironic that
> MI5 employs a team of agents, each well compensated for their efforts, to
> persecute just one person paid a mere fraction of what they get for their
> "work". In fact, it is a joke that MI5 is allocated resources for this
> sort of effort. If this area of government were run along commercial lines
> then MI5 would be very rapidly closed down, they produce nothing of any
> value, instead spending their time obsessed with the bugging and
> surveillance of their former employees like Shayler, dangerous subversives
> like Straw and Mandelson, and "threats to national security" like yours
> truly.
>
> Applying for my first post university job
>
> When I was applying for my first post-university job in the closing months
> of 1990, I found at two or three job interviews that MI5 had got there
> ahead of me. Interviewers knew what words to repeat from what had been
> said at my home recently; MI5 had supplied them with words to hurt me, and
> the "British secret police" were trying to wreck my job search and
> discourage me from joining the world of work. This and the continuing
> harassment in the media and by the public meant that the search for a job
> took very much longer than it would ordinarily be expected to take for a
> person with my qualifications.
>
> With my first job near Guildford came the knowledge that MI5 were doing
> everything possible to make me lose the job. Despite their efforts I
> managed to stay in work for ten unhappy months, during which they made
> very clear to me that they were bugging my workplace, my accomodation in
> Woking, my car, my home..... and they also made clear that they had "got
> to" my employer in Guildford.
>
> Employment with Oxford
>
> I was able to find a new job, with Oxford Computer Training Services (now
> ARIS/Oxford), quite quickly. But it became very clear, very quickly, that
> MI5 were treating this job the same as the first; they tried to get the
> other employees and in particular the managers to attack me. It was
> plainly MI5s intention that I be sacked fro this job. But I was not
> sacked; instead, after almost a year of abuse from OCTS managers, I was
> forced to seek medical help, and had to take two months off for medical
> leave. OCTS MD Hugh Simpson-Wells was motivated in keeping me on by the
> fear that if he sacked me, then I would take him to court for the
> treatment OCTS managers had meted out to me during 1992.
>
> Emigration to Canada
>
> When I emigrated to Canada in 1994, I did think that perhaps MI5 would
> leave me alone, given that I had made the effort to leave the UK and try
> to find a new life overseas. I could not see any reason why they would
> continue to harass me over in Canada. But clearly the MI5 agents had their
> salaries to think about, since continue to harass me they most certainly
> did, at my home in Ottawa, and by getting fellow employees to speak
> against me, as had happened with previous jobs in the UK.
>
> MI5 are denying me a future in work
>
> Former Chief Constable of Devon and Cornwall John Alderson had this to say
> regarding MI5's activities;
>
> "MI5 is not under the same restraints as the police. They infiltrate
> organisations, people's jobs and lives. They operate almost like a
> cancer."
>
> Currently I am on disability, and I can see that MI5 are denying me a
> future in work. It would be an insult to logic for me to return to work
> and find a job, in the knowledge that an entire team of MI5 agents, paid
> in total many times what I would be earning, would have the objective of
> seeing me "done down" in the employment, and ejected from the place of
> work. This situation is completely wrong and nonsensical - I would very
> much like to have a job, but MI5 are preventing me from even thinking
> about returning to work. The culture of secrecy in MI5/MI6 means there is
> no objective oversight of their expenditure, when external oversight and
> greater transparency might lead to wasteful and illogical operations such
> as that against me being shelved.
>
> Watched and Harassed at my Home and Accommodation
>
> As you will know if you have been reading these articles, MI5 have watched
> and harassed me at my home, and at every accommodation Ive had since
> 1990. Theyve also watched me at neighbours houses in London, and at
> short-term accommodation such as hotels and bed-and-breakfasts. They have
> used the "words" gained from these watching activities against me, by
> passing these words on to other people such as OCTS managers for them to
> make clear that I am being watched where I live.
>
> Harassed at rented rooms in Oxford in 1992
>
> This was at its worst in 1992 in Oxford, where during the week I lived at
> rented accommodation in Oxford, and at weekends returned to my parents
> home in London. I was being severely harassed by managers at my place of
> work, OCTS; and it was clear from the things they said that they were
> being supplied by MI5 with details of my home life, that they were being
> supplied with words to repeat at me.
>
> In 1992 I moved house in Oxford many times, living at a total of five
> rented accommodations in ten months. In January I started off living in a
> rented room at Headington near the ring road / A40 intersection; then when
> it became clear that house was being bugged, moved to a rented room in
> Botley, some miles away. It was at the house in Botley that I had an
> "interactive watching" experience with Martyn Lewis while he was reading
> the news; I threw a term of abuse at him; he first flinched, then gave a
> gsult of what I had just said, he was no longer "on my side".
>
> So I moved house again. This time to a place in Cowley, near the Rover car
> works, where I stayed for a few weeks. Because of continuing harassment at
> work, I soon moved from this accommodation, to yet another rented room on
> Iffley Road. By this time I was very ill and being abused continuously at
> work. Again, MI5 followed me to the rented room on Iffley Road, and
> created new instances of "newscaster watching". There was a television in
> the room which I watched, and as you can guess the newscasters got at me
> when I was watching the television. Also once I was assaulted, if thats
> the word for what happened, on leaving the house; a youth grabbed me by
> the coat lapels, roughed me up a bit with various terms of abuse. I did
> not report this assault to the police, because what was happening to me at
> work was very much worse, and nobody seemed to think that that was worthy
> of being reported to the police. Later that day at work, Alex G, a fellow
> employee, said "I heard he was assaulted".... I had not told anyone at
> work about the incident that morning..... so once again it was made very
> clear that MI5 were watching my rented accommodation and giving
> information about what was going on there to managers at work.
>
> So I moved house yet again in late autumn 1992, this time to a rented room
> in a large house on Woodstock Road. I stayed there for several weeks as
> the situation at work deteriorated due to OCTS managers abuse, until I was
> forced to take sick leave from work for two months and attend hospital as
> an outpatient; at which point I gave notice on the room, and returned to
> London.
>
> MI5 continued to harass me after the diagnosis of serious illness was
> made. As reported previously, they harassed me on a flight to Spain in
> December 1992; and in 1993, when I returned to live and work in Oxford,
> they again bugged my rooms, as well as my workplace, although the
> intensity of the harassment was very much less than in 1992.
>
> Watched, followed and harassed in Canada
>
> It dismayed me to find that MI5 would not leave me alone after I had
> settled in Canada. In January 1995 I rented an apartment at the Bayshore
> complex in Ottawas west end. For some weeks there was no sign of the
> "buggers". But then it started all over again. They first bugged my car,
> which had a car alarm installed - the alarm went off two or three times in
> a single evening, and the following day gave a signal that the car had
> been broken into. Then they bugged my apartment, and in particular they
> installed bugs on the phone line in my apartment.
>
> In September 1995 I moved to a new apartment in Ottawas Bytown Market
> area, the restaurant and entertainment heart of Canadas capital. This
> proved a serious mistake. In the west end I had been fairly distant from
> the centre of town where MI5 concentrated their efforts at turning people
> against me. In the Market area it was much easier for the persecutors to
> motivate people to harass me, and over the next couple of years there were
> frequent instances of harassment by the general public.
>
> From 1995 I had some Polish friends in Ottawa, and as the reader can
> guess, MI5 have spent much effort trying to break up this friendship. They
> supplied various things about my home life to these friends, for example
> where I was living in the Market, directly over the road were the studios
> of a music radio station, which you had to "look up" to see; and MI5 told
> these friends that I was "looking up" to see the radio station; so the
> friends then replayed these words back to me, that I was "looking up". MI5
> have also made various sexual slanders against me, and these friends also
> unwittingly replayed some of the words they had been imprinted with by the
> MI5 persecutors.
>
> MI5 Will Never Allow Me to have a Normal Life
>
> I have heard many excuses as to why MI5 continuously prevent me from
> having a normal life. We are told that MI5 are defending the country
> against a tere to zero.
>
> When I have travelled abroad, they always put their people on the flights,
> on the journeys I undertake, to continue the harassment, so that I am put
> off further overseas travel, and chained to my home in London. Yet even
> this is illogical, because when I lived in Canada, they would still put
> people on flights back to the UK.... and what possible reason would they
> have for doing that? Perhaps the truest words to describe the MI5
> persecution is that reason has nothing to do with their activities - sane
> people do not behave in the way the MI5 British Secret Police have been
> doing.
>
> Summer 1999 - more MI5 harassment?
>
> In only a few days time I will be going to Europe again. This time I have
> deliberately chosen to travel by a non-UK airline; so we will see if they
> put their paid agents on this foreign carrier, we will see if they try to
> harass me on this non-British flight.
>
> If they do harass me on this trip to Europe, or if they resume the
> harassment in London after I return home, then I will continue to report
> their activities in these faxes. As I said at the beginning of this
> article, I would very much like to not have to send these articles any
> more, but that is not my decision to make - it is entirely up to MI5 to
> cease their pointless persecution of me, once and for all.
>
> 31994
>
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