GPS - Garmin GPSmap 76Csx vs 60Csx

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Garmin GPSmap 76Csx vs 60Csx

OliverS

2007-02-02, 10:33 am

Hello,

My thanks to those who answered my other comparison questions.

I think I have learned Garmin's coding: C = color; s = SiRF-III chip;
and x = removable data card.

Now, is there any difference between the 76Csx and the 60 Csx models,
other than the package configuration? What are the
advantages/disadvantages to the different configurations.

I have checked the Garmin web site and used the compare product
function, and there does not appear to me any significant functional
difference between the two models. What am I missing?

OliverS

Bert Hyman

2007-02-02, 10:33 am

zoar1951-_nospam_news@yahoo.com (OliverS) wrote in
news:Y_Hwh.24210$yC5.22883@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net:

> I think I have learned Garmin's coding: C = color; s = SiRF-III
> chip; and x = removable data card.

Not quite.

The 60/76Cx and 60/76CSx both have SiRF-III receivers, but the
60/76CSx has the barometer and magnetic compass.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

Jan

2007-02-02, 10:33 am

"OliverS" <zoar1951-_nospam_news@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Y_Hwh.24210$yC5.22883@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> Hello,
>
> My thanks to those who answered my other comparison questions.
>
> I think I have learned Garmin's coding: C = color; s = SiRF-III chip; and
> x = removable data card.
>
> Now, is there any difference between the 76Csx and the 60 Csx models,
> other than the package configuration? What are the
> advantages/disadvantages to the different configurations.
>
> I have checked the Garmin web site and used the compare product function,
> and there does not appear to me any significant functional difference
> between the two models. What am I missing?
>
> OliverS

S = Sensors :
Altitude
Compass

Heinrich Pfeifer

2007-02-02, 10:33 am

"OliverS" <zoar1951-_nospam_news@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:Y_Hwh.24210$yC5.22883@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> Hello,
>
> My thanks to those who answered my other comparison questions.
>
> I think I have learned Garmin's coding: C = color; s = SiRF-III chip; and
> x = removable data card.

no: S = Sensors (magnetic compass and barometric altimeter).

--

Heinrich
http://www.gartrip.de
mail: new<at>gartrip.de

Arecibo

2007-02-02, 10:33 am

Jack Erbes

2007-02-02, 12:33 pm

OliverS wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My thanks to those who answered my other comparison questions.
>
> I think I have learned Garmin's coding: C = color; s = SiRF-III chip;
> and x = removable data card.
>
> Now, is there any difference between the 76Csx and the 60 Csx models,
> other than the package configuration? What are the
> advantages/disadvantages to the different configurations.
>
> I have checked the Garmin web site and used the compare product
> function, and there does not appear to me any significant functional
> difference between the two models. What am I missing?
>
> OliverS

Here is a list of some comparison points on the 60/76 Cx/CSx:

> GPSMAP 60 Cx/CSx = 2.4" W x 6.1" H x 1.3" D

> GPSMAP 76 Cx/CSx = 2.7" W x 6.2" H x 1.2" D

> Both have the same software and features.

> Some differences and pros and cons mentioned here in the past:

> 60 is display over buttons, 76 is buttons over display

> 76 "props up and leans against something" better because of the more rectangular case.

> I often use the 76 in a map case on a motorcycle, the more rectangular shape and button location works better for me there than the shape of the 60 would.

> Batteries have to be removed from 60 and a card holder messed with to change microSD card. On 76, microSD card pops out quickly without removing batteries.

> Both 60 and 76 series have battery cases that can be a little bit snug with some brands or types of AA cells. There have been some problems with broken battery contacts. Solution is to insert and remove them level and gently.

> Both are equally water resistant.

> The 76 floats, the 60 does not.

> The 60 is very close to neutral buoyancy, it will sink slowly and you'll have some time to think about jumping in the water to save it. It can be made to not sink fairly easily.

> The 76 is "slicker" in the hand, the 60 sticks to the hand better with its rubber armored case. I have my 76Cx in a Gilsson neoprene case with a clear window over the display. That makes it not slick and protects
> the case and display.

> Both models come with a lanyard (a wrist strap, more or less).
>
> The 60 also comes with a belt clip.

> The 60 can be hung though an opening in the case next to the antenna
> near the top of the case, that puts it more or less upright.

> The 76's lanyard loop is on the bottom of the case and it would hang upside down if the lanyard was used for that.
> (I tied my lanyard loop to the metal loop on the back of the battery cover - problem solved)

> I used Magellan Meridians (shaped much like the 60 series) for years but bought a 76Cx. After trying both styles, I like the 76's buttons over display style equally as well as I like the buttons under display style.
> There are situations where either one of the two may be better than the other. Only solution for that is to buy one of each. :> )

> The accessories and performance seems to be the same with both of them.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA (jackerbes at adelphia dot net)
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine dot com)

OliverS

2007-02-03, 10:33 am

Jack Erbes wrote:
> OliverS wrote:
>
> Here is a list of some comparison points on the 60/76 Cx/CSx:
>
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Jack:
Thanks for your detailed comments. They are very helpful. Your map
case is interesting, but I ride a pedal bicycle and the map case is not
that big. I note that a bicycle mount is available for the 60Csx, but
not for the 76Csx, and that will make the difference for me. Also, the
belt clip is a plus. When I don't have the bike mount for my Vista, I
sometimes clip it to the map case.

Another thing -- with my Vista I always loop the lanyard around the
handlebars when bicycing, or around my belt when useing the belt clip
walking. This is primarily as accident protection, but it will also
offer some security against a grab and run thief.

Oliver

Jack Erbes

2007-02-03, 10:33 pm

OliverS wrote:

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> Jack:
> Thanks for your detailed comments. They are very helpful. Your map
> case is interesting, but I ride a pedal bicycle and the map case is not
> that big. I note that a bicycle mount is available for the 60Csx, but
> not for the 76Csx, and that will make the difference for me. Also, the
> belt clip is a plus. When I don't have the bike mount for my Vista, I
> sometimes clip it to the map case.

My map case is the top of a tank bag that is about 8" x 12". It sets on
top of the gas tank.

If I were looking for a mount for either the 60 or 76 series I would
probably buy a RAM mount before I would buy any of the Garmin mounts.

RAM makes plastic cradles that are nicely fitted to the cases on the
various GPS models. The cradles can be attached to a wide range of
mounting points that are centered on a ball and socket system. The
balls are in various sizes, rubber covered, and there is simply almost
not conceivable equipment or situation that you cannot find a RAM mount
and base for. Here are a links to the RAM mount for the Garmin 60
series and to the catalogs for the all the various fittings:

Garmin 60 - http://tinyurl.com/2gtfe4

Catalogs - http://www.ram-mount.com/ramcat.htm

Here is another site that has some excellent illustrations and closeups
of the mounts and the component parts:

http://radioworld.ca/index.php?cPat...6&filter_id=118

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA (jackerbes at adelphia dot net)
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine dot com)

OliverS

2007-02-04, 10:33 am

Jack Erbes wrote:
y Vista, I sometimes clip it to the map case.
>
> My map case is the top of a tank bag that is about 8" x 12". It sets on
> top of the gas tank.
>
> If I were looking for a mount for either the 60 or 76 series I would
> probably buy a RAM mount before I would buy any of the Garmin mounts.
>
> RAM makes plastic cradles that are nicely fitted to the cases on the
> various GPS models. The cradles can be attached to a wide range of
> mounting points that are centered on a ball and socket system. The
> balls are in various sizes, rubber covered, and there is simply almost
> not conceivable equipment or situation that you cannot find a RAM mount
> and base for. Here are a links to the RAM mount for the Garmin 60
> series and to the catalogs for the all the various fittings:
>
> Garmin 60 - http://tinyurl.com/2gtfe4
>
> Catalogs - http://www.ram-mount.com/ramcat.htm
>
> Here is another site that has some excellent illustrations and closeups
> of the mounts and the component parts:
>
> http://radioworld.ca/index.php?cPat...6&filter_id=118
>
> Jack
>

Thanks for the links to the RAM mounts, but while they may be great on a
motorcycle, they would be a bit of overkill for a bicycle. Not only
would the ball pivots be unnecessary, they would add a significant
amount of drag to the configuration. A flat mount on the handlebars of
a bicycle works just fine.

Oliver

Peter Wilkins

2007-02-04, 10:33 pm

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:35:36 GMT, OliverS
<zoar1951-_nospam_news@yahoo.com> wrote :

>Now, is there any difference between the 76Csx and the 60 Csx models,=20
>other than the package configuration? What are the=20
>advantages/disadvantages to the different configurations.
>
>I have checked the Garmin web site and used the compare product=20
>function, and there does not appear to me any significant functional=20
>difference between the two models. What am I missing?
>
It's essentially a matter of personal preference.
I went for the 60 only because for the things I do, it's much easier
to work with the screen clearly visible above my hand working the
keys, even though I'm on the water a lot and would have liked my 60 to
float! I found the 76 clumsy to use, with my hand obscuring the
screen. Also, the 60 fits nicely in the dash mounted drink holder in
my car, and the 76 didn't.

As far as I know, there is no technical reason to prefer one over the
other.
--=20
Regards,
Peter Wilkins

John William Hughes

2007-02-05, 10:33 am

OliverS wrote:

> Thanks for the links to the RAM mounts, but while they may be great on a
> motorcycle, they would be a bit of overkill for a bicycle. Not only
> would the ball pivots be unnecessary, they would add a significant
> amount of drag to the configuration. A flat mount on the handlebars of
> a bicycle works just fine.

The official mount for the 60CSX doesn't work just fine because they
made the top of the screw that fits in the back of the GPS out of
plastic and now it's so worn away a pair of pliers need to be carried in
the rucksack with the fresh batteries.

OliverS

2007-02-05, 10:33 am

John William Hughes wrote:
> OliverS wrote:
>
>
> The official mount for the 60CSX doesn't work just fine because they
> made the top of the screw that fits in the back of the GPS out of
> plastic and now it's so worn away a pair of pliers need to be carried in
> the rucksack with the fresh batteries.

John:

The Garmin bicycle mount seems to have a lot of shortcomings, but there
does not seem to be an alternative. The motorcycle mounts are two much
hardware for my bicycle. When I am using a handlebar bag, I can clip it
to the map case, but then it is longitudinal

Oliver

emmbeedee

2007-02-05, 12:33 pm

On Feb 5, 11:25 am, OliverS <zoar1951-_nospam_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> John William Hughes wrote:
>
>

Huh? I've been using a Garmin mount in the car, and a ram mount on my
motorcycle for a couple of years now and aside from one RAM mount
breaking where you have to bend it to remove the 60, either one works
quite well. The RAM mount is warrantied for life so I got a new one
for free.

Oh, and as far as I know, there is a Garmin bicycle mount for the 76.
I got one with the 76S I bought a few years ago and I'm pretty sure it
fits the 76CSx we just bought. I can check later, just to confirm.

The mount is on this page - though it does not specifically mention
the 76C.

[url]http://navcity.co.uk/catalog/product_info. php+products_id+563[
/url]

Emm
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> John:
>
> The Garmin bicycle mount seems to have a lot of shortcomings, but there
> does not seem to be an alternative. The motorcycle mounts are two much
> hardware for my bicycle. When I am using a handlebar bag, I can clip it
> to the map case, but then it is longitudinal
>
> Oliver

OliverS

2007-02-05, 10:33 pm

emmbeedee wrote:
> On Feb 5, 11:25 am, OliverS <zoar1951-_nospam_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Huh? I've been using a Garmin mount in the car, and a ram mount on my
> motorcycle for a couple of years now and aside from one RAM mount
> breaking where you have to bend it to remove the 60, either one works
> quite well. The RAM mount is warrantied for life so I got a new one
> for free.
>
> Oh, and as far as I know, there is a Garmin bicycle mount for the 76.
> I got one with the 76S I bought a few years ago and I'm pretty sure it
> fits the 76CSx we just bought. I can check later, just to confirm.
>
> The mount is on this page - though it does not specifically mention
> the 76C.
>
> http://navcity.co.uk/catalog/produc...305%2D01

I did not see it before.

As for the RAM mount on a bicycle, as I interpret the catalog one needs
a rail mount which connects to the handlebars with a U bolt. The rail
mount projects up several inches from a ball joint at the U bolt end,
and the actual GPS mount attaches to this. This gives a great deal of
flexibility in the positioning of the GPS, but this is not necessary or
desirable for my type of bicycle riding since it creates a log of
clutter on top of the handlebar, and that results in wind resistance.

Oliver

emmbeedee

2007-02-05, 10:33 pm

On Feb 5, 5:29 pm, OliverS <zoar1951-_nospam_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> emmbeedee wrote:
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> MBD:
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> That mount is listed on the US site as wellhttp://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp? sku=010%2D10305%2D01

> I did not see it before.
>
> As for the RAM mount on a bicycle, as I interpret the catalog one needs
> a rail mount which connects to the handlebars with a U bolt. The rail
> mount projects up several inches from a ball joint at the U bolt end,
> and the actual GPS mount attaches to this. This gives a great deal of
> flexibility in the positioning of the GPS, but this is not necessary or
> desirable for my type of bicycle riding since it creates a log of
> clutter on top of the handlebar, and that results in wind resistance.
>
> Oliver

I tried it out and the Garmin mount I had for the 76S works perfectly
on the 76CSx. I put three pictures of it up here:

>From the back - http://cyberus.ca/~scoulshaw/76CSx/mount1.jpg
>From the front - http://cyberus.ca/~scoulshaw/76CSx/mount2.jpg
>From the side - http://cyberus.ca/~scoulshaw/76CSx/mount3.jpg

The actual handlebar part is not in the picture as it's on the bike,
out in the garage, and it's -25C out there so I'm not going out.

Emm

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