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Andrew Hamilton

2007-08-01, 10:33 pm

Hi Group,

I've been mostly lurking for over a year now but haven't gotten a GPS
because, well, too many choices and not enough time to sort through
all of them. I did a search of all the messages I've saved up but
couldn't really find any good information, so I thought I should post
my questions. I hope I'm making sense. I am kind of a newbie in this
area.

I got to thinking about this again because just today I got a Sharper
Image catalog. On page 24, there is a nice description of the Garmin
nuvi 680, which includes a Pedestrian Mode. Everything seems nice
except the price, which is $900!

I've been hoping that I could find a single GPS unit that I could use
in any of my cars as well as walking around AND link to my camera,
which accepts and records GPS data in each picture. I've heard people
say that I'm dreaming, that this GPS doesn't exist.

Now, for auto use, I need a unit that holds detailed city maps and
points of interest and cover the entire US. Also would be nice if
there were maps available for Europe and parts of Asia.

For pedestrian use, I need something that I can carry around easily.
The picture in the Shaper Image catalog shows a nuvi in someone's
front shirt pocket. Cool! And the GPS needs to work well in areas
with tall buildings, like downtown Manhattan.

In pedestrian mode, I need something that will give me the location of
an address, if I'm walking around. That's all. I don't intend to do
"geocaching" or anything like that.

I just want to be able to enter 2-3-4 addresses and have the GPS
guide me to each one, either diving or walking.

I don't need an MP3 player and I'm not sure why I would want to use
the GPS to make phone calls. Is that because the GPS becomes a
speaker phone, so I can make hands-free calls?

This is probably a silly question, but can any Garmin (or other) GPS
tell me which bus or subway line to use in an urban area? That would
also be way cool!

With all this, do I want a Garmin nuvi or something else? I read
somewhere that Navtech does the best and most detailed and up to date
maps in the US and that Garmin and Magellan use Navtech, but TomTom
does not.

Thanks in advance.
Robert Peffers.

2007-08-02, 10:33 am


"Andrew Hamilton" < Ahamilton90900@yahoo
.com> wrote in message
news:5t72b3l0cnt33im
grfqdgg0fshrqhj0cv6@
4ax.com...
> Hi Group,
>
> I've been mostly lurking for over a year now but haven't gotten a GPS
> because, well, too many choices and not enough time to sort through
> all of them. I did a search of all the messages I've saved up but
> couldn't really find any good information, so I thought I should post
> my questions. I hope I'm making sense. I am kind of a newbie in this
> area.
>
> I got to thinking about this again because just today I got a Sharper
> Image catalog. On page 24, there is a nice description of the Garmin
> nuvi 680, which includes a Pedestrian Mode. Everything seems nice
> except the price, which is $900!
>
> I've been hoping that I could find a single GPS unit that I could use
> in any of my cars as well as walking around AND link to my camera,
> which accepts and records GPS data in each picture. I've heard people
> say that I'm dreaming, that this GPS doesn't exist.
>
> Now, for auto use, I need a unit that holds detailed city maps and
> points of interest and cover the entire US. Also would be nice if
> there were maps available for Europe and parts of Asia.
>
> For pedestrian use, I need something that I can carry around easily.
> The picture in the Shaper Image catalog shows a nuvi in someone's
> front shirt pocket. Cool! And the GPS needs to work well in areas
> with tall buildings, like downtown Manhattan.
>
> In pedestrian mode, I need something that will give me the location of
> an address, if I'm walking around. That's all. I don't intend to do
> "geocaching" or anything like that.
>
> I just want to be able to enter 2-3-4 addresses and have the GPS
> guide me to each one, either diving or walking.
>
> I don't need an MP3 player and I'm not sure why I would want to use
> the GPS to make phone calls. Is that because the GPS becomes a
> speaker phone, so I can make hands-free calls?
>
> This is probably a silly question, but can any Garmin (or other) GPS
> tell me which bus or subway line to use in an urban area? That would
> also be way cool!
>
> With all this, do I want a Garmin nuvi or something else? I read
> somewhere that Navtech does the best and most detailed and up to date
> maps in the US and that Garmin and Magellan use Navtech, but TomTom
> does not.
>
> Thanks in advance.


TomTom's can be set for -
car, (automobile) - fastest route.
car - shortest route.
car - Avoid Motorways.
Walking route
Bicycle route.
or Limited Speed route.
They can also be set to avoid tolls on bridges or roads.
There are settings to avoid road blocks and traffic delays or any particular
place/road the user chooses.

You can also load in POIs, (Points of Interest), for just about anything
under the Sun.
I'm not aware of how any other brand can be set-up.
--

Robert Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).




Marcus Fox

2007-08-02, 3:33 pm


"Andrew Hamilton" < Ahamilton90900@yahoo
.com> wrote in message
news:5t72b3l0cnt33im
grfqdgg0fshrqhj0cv6@
4ax.com...
> Hi Group,
>
> I've been mostly lurking for over a year now but haven't gotten a GPS
> because, well, too many choices and not enough time to sort through
> all of them. I did a search of all the messages I've saved up but
> couldn't really find any good information, so I thought I should post
> my questions. I hope I'm making sense. I am kind of a newbie in this
> area.
>
> I got to thinking about this again because just today I got a Sharper
> Image catalog. On page 24, there is a nice description of the Garmin
> nuvi 680, which includes a Pedestrian Mode. Everything seems nice
> except the price, which is $900!
>
> I've been hoping that I could find a single GPS unit that I could use
> in any of my cars as well as walking around AND link to my camera,
> which accepts and records GPS data in each picture. I've heard people
> say that I'm dreaming, that this GPS doesn't exist.
>
> Now, for auto use, I need a unit that holds detailed city maps and
> points of interest and cover the entire US. Also would be nice if
> there were maps available for Europe and parts of Asia.
>
> For pedestrian use, I need something that I can carry around easily.
> The picture in the Shaper Image catalog shows a nuvi in someone's
> front shirt pocket. Cool! And the GPS needs to work well in areas
> with tall buildings, like downtown Manhattan.
>
> In pedestrian mode, I need something that will give me the location of
> an address, if I'm walking around. That's all. I don't intend to do
> "geocaching" or anything like that.
>
> I just want to be able to enter 2-3-4 addresses and have the GPS
> guide me to each one, either diving or walking.
>
> I don't need an MP3 player and I'm not sure why I would want to use
> the GPS to make phone calls. Is that because the GPS becomes a
> speaker phone, so I can make hands-free calls?
>
> This is probably a silly question, but can any Garmin (or other) GPS
> tell me which bus or subway line to use in an urban area? That would
> also be way cool!
>
> With all this, do I want a Garmin nuvi or something else? I read
> somewhere that Navtech does the best and most detailed and up to date
> maps in the US and that Garmin and Magellan use Navtech, but TomTom
> does not.


I'm in the UK - I use a PDA - Mitac Mio P550. I have TomTom for car and
pedestrian road navigation to cities or addresses and plan itineraries (you
can set it up for fastest, shortest, cycling or walking) and Memory Map
Ordnance Survey 1:50,000 and 1:25,000 of several parts of the UK for hiking.
It is also possible to scan and calibrate your own maps and use them with
the GPS in Memory Map. I do not know if I can link it to a camera as yet,
have not tried it.

I have no idea if the NOAA do GPS programs that run on a Windows PDA for
areas in the US, but I think they probably do.

The price for my unit was £220 - Thats a little over $440, but in the US,
prices for like equipment are generally a lot less. Plus the PDA has a lot
more on it than just a standalone GPS unit. The downside is the battery life
is generally a lot less compared to Garmin handheld GPS units, around 4
hours with the GPS on compared to anything up to 30. But I get around that
by having a portable battery extender/charger that takes AA rechargeable
batteries.

Marcus


dgm

2007-08-03, 10:33 pm

In article < 5t72b3l0cnt33imgrfqd
gg0fshrqhj0cv6@4ax.com>,
Andrew Hamilton < Ahamilton90900@yahoo
.com> wrote:

> Hi Group,
>
> I've been mostly lurking for over a year now but haven't gotten a GPS
> because, well, too many choices and not enough time to sort through
> all of them. I did a search of all the messages I've saved up but
> couldn't really find any good information, so I thought I should post
> my questions. I hope I'm making sense. I am kind of a newbie in this
> area.
>
> I got to thinking about this again because just today I got a Sharper
> Image catalog. On page 24, there is a nice description of the Garmin
> nuvi 680, which includes a Pedestrian Mode. Everything seems nice
> except the price, which is $900!
>
> I've been hoping that I could find a single GPS unit that I could use
> in any of my cars as well as walking around AND link to my camera,
> which accepts and records GPS data in each picture. I've heard people
> say that I'm dreaming, that this GPS doesn't exist.
>
> Now, for auto use, I need a unit that holds detailed city maps and
> points of interest and cover the entire US. Also would be nice if
> there were maps available for Europe and parts of Asia.
>
> For pedestrian use, I need something that I can carry around easily.
> The picture in the Shaper Image catalog shows a nuvi in someone's
> front shirt pocket. Cool! And the GPS needs to work well in areas
> with tall buildings, like downtown Manhattan.
>
> In pedestrian mode, I need something that will give me the location of
> an address, if I'm walking around. That's all. I don't intend to do
> "geocaching" or anything like that.
>
> I just want to be able to enter 2-3-4 addresses and have the GPS
> guide me to each one, either diving or walking.
>
> I don't need an MP3 player and I'm not sure why I would want to use
> the GPS to make phone calls. Is that because the GPS becomes a
> speaker phone, so I can make hands-free calls?
>
> This is probably a silly question, but can any Garmin (or other) GPS
> tell me which bus or subway line to use in an urban area? That would
> also be way cool!
>
> With all this, do I want a Garmin nuvi or something else? I read
> somewhere that Navtech does the best and most detailed and up to date
> maps in the US and that Garmin and Magellan use Navtech, but TomTom
> does not.
>
> Thanks in advance.


I just got a Fujitsu/Siemens NNavigon LOOX N100 at
Office Depot for $300 after a $50 mail-in rebate. It comes packages
with Navigon Mobile Navigator ver. 6 (Jan 2007) and has an integrated
SiRFstar III chipset. I have yet to find any place where reception is a
problem except deep in my basement. The packages maps (Dec 2006)
include US/Canada, Puerto Rico/Virgin Islands, Alaska and Hawaii. The
detail and POI's are very extensive. It has fast car, standard car,
slow car, motorcycle, truck, bicycle and pedestrian modes. You can see
more of the specs at www.navigator.com. I am new to GPS and have been
pleased with both the ease of use and the performance. Some reviews
have been critical of the speed, but I have not found this to be a
problem. The small size and weight were the selling point for me.
peter

2007-08-03, 10:33 pm

On Aug 1, 5:20 pm, Andrew Hamilton <Ahamilton90...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is probably a silly question, but can any Garmin (or other) GPS
> tell me which bus or subway line to use in an urban area? That would
> also be way cool!


I'm not aware of any unit that will automatically route you via mass
transit systems although many will include subway stations as POIs so
you can at least see where the nearest ones are located.
The pedestrian mode on Garmins just avoids routing you on freeways and
similar restricted areas but permits 'wrong-way' travel on one-way
roads.
The nuvi series should work fine for what you have in mind, but models
by other makers should do that as well.

Andrew Hamilton

2007-08-04, 3:33 pm

On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:42:27 -0700, peter <prathman@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Aug 1, 5:20 pm, Andrew Hamilton <Ahamilton90...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>I'm not aware of any unit that will automatically route you via mass
>transit systems although many will include subway stations as POIs so


Hey, that was a "long shot" question. :) If units like that did
exist, they would be sellouts in some big cities like NY, London, or
Paris. Of course, the units would have to work inside the subway,
that would be pretty impressive!!


>you can at least see where the nearest ones are located.
>The pedestrian mode on Garmins just avoids routing you on freeways and
>similar restricted areas but permits 'wrong-way' travel on one-way
>roads.
>The nuvi series should work fine for what you have in mind, but models
>by other makers should do that as well.


I was attracted to the Garmin nuvi series by the combination of size
(only 1" thick) and wide screen. Unlike some other Garmin units,
these nuvi's seem to be practical to use when walking around. I'm NOT
attracted to the high prices, however.

-AH
Marcus Fox

2007-08-05, 10:33 pm


"Andrew Hamilton" < Ahamilton90900@yahoo
.com> wrote in message
news:ihg9b31rr6pmqer
4hsaqap7pj36c0oea75@
4ax.com...
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:42:27 -0700, peter <prathman@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hey, that was a "long shot" question. :) If units like that did
> exist, they would be sellouts in some big cities like NY, London, or
> Paris. Of course, the units would have to work inside the subway,
> that would be pretty impressive!!
>
>
>
> I was attracted to the Garmin nuvi series by the combination of size
> (only 1" thick) and wide screen. Unlike some other Garmin units,
> these nuvi's seem to be practical to use when walking around. I'm NOT
> attracted to the high prices, however.


My PDA is less than 1" thick and has a 3.5" screen diagonal. The normal
display is portrait, but you can press a button and have it display as
landscape.

Marcus


Dana

2007-08-07, 3:33 pm

> these nuvi's seem to be practical to use when walking around. I'm NOT
> attracted to the high prices, however.



Hi. I have a Nuvi 680. Very nice unit, but the software has many bugs!
The software is absolutely terrible.

Some idiot at Garmin set the "Lock to Roads" feature "ON", even when your
speed is zero.
Therefore, when you start, the unit will put you on the nearest road,
eventhough that is not where you are. It makes navigation very difficult.
In Pedestrian mode, the unit WILL have you walk down a HIGHWAY. This is
just a few of the dozens of bugs in this product.
For $1,000, you would think I could give someone a Geo-Cashe position, but I
can't. It is that bad. It gives the coord. of the nearest road!!

The nuvi can not change batteries, so you are stuck with 1 charge for your
all day walk.
I just walked around manhatten 2 weeks ago. I kept having to turn the unit
off to save power.
In Manhatten, I was able to receive good signals, which is very impressive
considering the sky is all steal buildings. However, I found it very
difficult to navigate. I think the problem was this. Do to a lot of signal
reflection, the unit calculated my position a little off. Well, this is
fine, and is expected, in such a tough environment. However, the idiot at
garman who set the lock to roads feature ON, makes the unit jump 1-2 blocks
over in the wrong direction. As you walk, the unit gets confused as to
which is the "nearest road", even though you are on the road. Put another
way, the unit calculates that you are near the middle of the block, but
randomly puts you back on any one of a number of "nearest roads" The
Pedestrian mode made no difference. (another bug).

I could go on and on about the terrible software in this unit. I'll stop
here.

--
Dana


"Andrew Hamilton" < Ahamilton90900@yahoo
.com> wrote in message
news:ihg9b31rr6pmqer
4hsaqap7pj36c0oea75@
4ax.com...
> On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:42:27 -0700, peter <prathman@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hey, that was a "long shot" question. :) If units like that did
> exist, they would be sellouts in some big cities like NY, London, or
> Paris. Of course, the units would have to work inside the subway,
> that would be pretty impressive!!
>
>
>
> I was attracted to the Garmin nuvi series by the combination of size
> (only 1" thick) and wide screen. Unlike some other Garmin units,
> these nuvi's seem to be practical to use when walking around. I'm NOT
> attracted to the high prices, however.
>
> -AH



Bruce.

2007-08-07, 10:33 pm

"Dana" <ddelouis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:_b4ui.4830$QP5.4159@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> For $1,000, you would think I could give someone a Geo-Cashe position, but
> I can't. It is that bad. It gives the coord. of the nearest road!!


So far I've used my 650 to Geocache twice and it worked flawlessly both
times. I just put in it Pedestrian mode and 2D map and it took me right to
the right spot. No trouble at all from the nearby roads.

Bruce.



Bert Hyman

2007-08-08, 10:33 am

ddelouis@bellsouth.net (Dana) wrote in
news:_b4ui.4830$QP5.4159@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

> I could go on and on about the terrible software in this unit.
> I'll stop here.


Everything I read suggests that the Nuvi 680 (and the entire Nuvi
line) are intended for automotive use; maybe you just bought the
wrong receiver for your intended use.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com
Christoph Bouthillier

2007-08-09, 10:33 am


"peter" <prathman@comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1186191747.880730.117730@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 1, 5:20 pm, Andrew Hamilton <Ahamilton90...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm not aware of any unit that will automatically route you via mass
> transit systems although many will include subway stations as POIs so
> you can at least see where the nearest ones are located.
> The pedestrian mode on Garmins just avoids routing you on freeways and
> similar restricted areas but permits 'wrong-way' travel on one-way
> roads.
> The nuvi series should work fine for what you have in mind, but models
> by other makers should do that as well.
>


Of course there is a very nice free mass transit systems "navigation"
system. I tested it in my own town - it worked just perfect!

350+ cities

PalmOS, PocketPC, MS Smartphone, Symbian UIQ/SonyEricsson, Symbian
S60/Nokia, Symbian S80/Nokia, Symbian S90/Nokia

http://nanika.net/Metro/

;=))))

You don't need to install all cities on your phone, just those you need, out
of the total list of 6.3 MB.

---
Met vriendelijke groet / Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards
Christoph Bouthillier
p/o\s/t atsign ohnotekstotaaloh nocom
Leave out: \ / oh no
---




Andrew Hamilton

2007-08-10, 12:33 pm

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 17:25:14 +0200, "Christoph Bouthillier"
<post@tekstotaal.com> wrote:

>
>"peter" <prathman@comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:1186191747.880730.117730@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>Of course there is a very nice free mass transit systems "navigation"
>system. I tested it in my own town - it worked just perfect!
>
>350+ cities
>
>PalmOS, PocketPC, MS Smartphone, Symbian UIQ/SonyEricsson, Symbian
>S60/Nokia, Symbian S80/Nokia, Symbian S90/Nokia
>
>http://nanika.net/Metro/
>
>;=))))
>
>You don't need to install all cities on your phone, just those you need, out
>of the total list of 6.3 MB.


I will put this on an expansion card in my Treo 650.


Merci/Danke/Thank you

-AH
edgarrity@earthlink.net

2007-08-24, 10:33 pm

On Aug 9, 11:25 am, "Christoph Bouthillier" <p...@tekstotaal.com>
wrote:
> "peter" <prath...@comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:1186
191747.880730.117730@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
> Of course there is a very nice free mass transit systems "navigation"
> system. I tested it in my own town - it worked just perfect!
>
> 350+ cities
>
> PalmOS, PocketPC, MS Smartphone, Symbian UIQ/SonyEricsson, Symbian
> S60/Nokia, Symbian S80/Nokia, Symbian S90/Nokia
>
> http://nanika.net/Metro/
>
> ;=))))
>
> You don't need to install all cities on your phone, just those you need, out
> of the total list of 6.3 MB.
>
> ---
> Met vriendelijke groet / Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards
> Christoph Bouthillier
> p/o\s/t atsign ohnotekstotaaloh nocom
> Leave out: \ / oh no
> ---

Try www.SubwayInfo.com. This site provides walking and subway
directions for New York City and other areas.

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