GPS - 60 csx and 76csx difference??

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60 csx and 76csx difference??

Crabman

2007-09-08, 10:33 pm

I downloaded the brochures for the two Garmins. Other than the memory
card and the look of the unit I can't tell the difference.

Can someone help?

Clay

Bert Hyman

2007-09-08, 10:33 pm

In news:46e31144$0$1645
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r.com Crabman
<crabman@dud.net> wrote:

> I downloaded the brochures for the two Garmins. Other than the memory
> card and the look of the unit I can't tell the difference.
>
> Can someone help?

That's about it. One or the other of them is supposed to float, while
the other "almost" floats, but I don't remember which is which :-)

One operational difference is that the memory card in the 70C(S)x can be
removed (changed) without taking out the batteries.

If the comments in the change log of the most recent firmware updates
are to believed, the 60C(S)x doesn't have a setting for "lithium" (not
LiIon) batteries, while the 76C(S)x does (my 76CSx has the setting).

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

Jack Erbes

2007-09-08, 10:33 pm

Crabman wrote:
> I downloaded the brochures for the two Garmins. Other than the memory
> card and the look of the unit I can't tell the difference.
>
> Can someone help?
>

Here is a repeat of something I posted a while back:

GPSMAP 60 Cx/CSx = 2.4" W x 6.1" H x 1.3" D

GPSMAP 76 Cx/CSx = 2.7" W x 6.2" H x 1.2" D

The displays on them are identical. Disregard the Garmin web pages that
call them by two different names and gives them slightly different
sizes. It is simply not true.

Both have the same software and features.

Some differences and pros and cons mentioned here in the past:

60 is display over buttons, 76 is buttons over display

76 "props up and leans against something" better because of the more
rectangular case.

I often use the 76 in a map case on a motorcycle, the more rectangular
shape and button location works better for me there than the shape of
the 60 would.

Batteries have to be removed from 60 and a card holder messed with to
change microSD card. On 76, microSD card pops out quickly without
removing batteries.

Both 60 and 76 series have battery cases that can be a little bit snug
with some brands or types of AA cells. There have been some problems
with broken battery contacts. Solution is to insert and remove them
level and gently.

Both are equally water resistant.

The 76 floats, the 60 does not.

The 60 is very close to neutral buoyancy, it will sink slowly and you'll
have some time to think about jumping in the water to save it. It can
be made to not sink fairly easily. It may float with some types of
batteries.

The 76 is "slicker" in the hand, the 60 sticks to the hand better with
its rubber armored case. I use my 76Cx in a Gilsson neoprene case with
a clear window over the display. That makes it not slick and both
protects the case and display.

Both models come with a lanyard (a wrist strap, more or less).

The 60 also comes with a belt clip.

The 60 can be hung though an opening in the case next to the antenna
near the top of the case, that puts it more or less upright.

The 76's lanyard loop is on the bottom of the case and it would hang
upside down if the lanyard was used for that. I tied my lanyard loop to
the metal loop on the back of the battery cover - problem solved)

I used Magellan Meridians (shaped much like the 60 series) for years but
bought a 76Cx. After trying both styles, I like the 76's buttons over
display style equally as well as I like the buttons under display style.

I think the 76 balances better over your palm, buttons can be pressed
without shifting your grip. When holding it like that and using the
buttons, your thumb does not block the display.

There are situations where either one of the two may be better than the
other. Only solution for that is to buy one of each. :> )

The accessories and performance seems to be the same with both of them.

Check for rebates:

http://www.garmin.com/whatsNew/currentpromotions/

Jack

Gordon Hamm

2007-09-11, 10:33 pm

On 2007-09-08 14:13:12 -0700, Crabman <crabman@dud.net> said:

> I downloaded the brochures for the two Garmins. Other than the memory
> card and the look of the unit I can't tell the difference.
>
> Can someone help?
>
> Clay

76CSX is waterproof, 60CSX is not.

Bert Hyman

2007-09-11, 10:33 pm

In news:200709111549351
6807-gchamm@gmailcom Gordon Hamm
<gchamm@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2007-09-08 14:13:12 -0700, Crabman <crabman@dud.net> said:
>
>
> 76CSX is waterproof, 60CSX is not.
>

They're both waterproof to the same "IPX7" standard.

The 76CSx is documented to float, the 60CSx isn't, but other posters'
experience says the 60 "almost" floats.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

Bert Hyman

2007-09-11, 10:33 pm

In news:Xns99A8B700990E
CVeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7 Bert Hyman
<bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

> In news:200709111549351
6807-gchamm@gmailcom Gordon Hamm
><gchamm@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> They're both waterproof to the same "IPX7" standard.

"An IPX7 designation means the GPS case can withstand accidental
immersion in one meter of water for up to 30 minutes."

http://www8.garmin.com/footnotes/IEC_60529_IPX7.html

> The 76CSx is documented to float, the 60CSx isn't, but other posters'
> experience says the 60 "almost" floats.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

Jack Erbes

2007-09-12, 7:33 am

Gordon Hamm wrote:
> On 2007-09-08 14:13:12 -0700, Crabman <crabman@dud.net> said:
>
>
> 76CSX is waterproof, 60CSX is not.
>

Not so, both models are waterproofed to the same IPX7 specification.

An IPX7 waterproof rating means that the device continues to function
after being gently immersed in still tap water at room temperature to a
depth of 1 meter, and left there for 30 minutes before being removed again.

I've not actually tested my 76Cx to that standard but would use it and
any other Garmin meeting that spec around water, in the rain, etc.

The 76Cx/CSx will float and the 60Cx/CSx will not with alkaline
batteries place. But the 60 series models are close to neutral buoyancy
and, if lighter batteries are used, they may float. Again, that is
based on reports I've read, not on first hand experience.

Jack

Larry G

2007-09-12, 10:33 am

On Sep 12, 7:20 am, Jack Erbes <jac...@midmaine.com> wrote:
> Gordon Hamm wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Not so, both models are waterproofed to the same IPX7 specification.
>
> An IPX7 waterproof rating means that the device continues to function
> after being gently immersed in still tap water at room temperature to a
> depth of 1 meter, and left there for 30 minutes before being removed again.
>
> I've not actually tested my 76Cx to that standard but would use it and
> any other Garmin meeting that spec around water, in the rain, etc.
>
> The 76Cx/CSx will float and the 60Cx/CSx will not with alkaline
> batteries place. But the 60 series models are close to neutral buoyancy
> and, if lighter batteries are used, they may float. Again, that is
> based on reports I've read, not on first hand experience.
>
> Jack

I've used the 76 in all day rain.. and it does just fine. and just FYI
- it's been dropped a couple of times and despite less rubber "armor"
than the 60.. did fine also.

I .. HAVE ... read that if you get DEET on the display that it will
permanently fog/ruin it. I used DEET on my recent trip and took great
pains to insure it did not get on the screen.

Jack Erbes

2007-09-12, 12:33 pm

Larry G wrote:
<snip>
> I've used the 76 in all day rain.. and it does just fine. and just FYI
> - it's been dropped a couple of times and despite less rubber "armor"
> than the 60.. did fine also.
>
> I .. HAVE ... read that if you get DEET on the display that it will
> permanently fog/ruin it. I used DEET on my recent trip and took great
> pains to insure it did not get on the screen.

I was worried about the display when I got my 76Cx so I bought the
Gilsson neoprene padded case for it (about $20 shipped). That has a
clear plastic window over the display and buttons.

I did not like using the buttons through the plastic, especially the
4-way cursor pad. So I snipped the area above the display out and have
been using that way since.

The Gilsson case adds 15-20 seconds to a battery change. The zippered
opening on the bottom lets you fold the rubber caps for the power/data
and USB outlets back and use those. If you plug in a four pin power
data lead, the case can then be pulled back down (there is a slight
extra bulge over the four pin plug), zippered up, and used with external
power (the way I most often use it).

I bought a non-OEM four pin power cable on eBay and cut it to add an
extension for a situation I regularly encounter where there is not a DC
outlet near the place I use it.

I cannot overstate how satisfied I am with the 76Cx. It has become the
absolute backbone for navigation on the motor yacht deliveries I do and
has not let me down once. I'm going to give it another chance tomorrow,
Cape Cod, MA to Mount Desert Island, ME.

Jack

Larry G

2007-09-13, 10:33 am

On Sep 12, 11:55 am, Jack Erbes <jac...@midmaine.com> wrote:
> Larry G wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>
>
> I was worried about the display when I got my 76Cx so I bought the
> Gilsson neoprene padded case for it (about $20 shipped). That has a
> clear plastic window over the display and buttons.
>
> I did not like using the buttons through the plastic, especially the
> 4-way cursor pad. So I snipped the area above the display out and have
> been using that way since.
>
> The Gilsson case adds 15-20 seconds to a battery change. The zippered
> opening on the bottom lets you fold the rubber caps for the power/data
> and USB outlets back and use those. If you plug in a four pin power
> data lead, the case can then be pulled back down (there is a slight
> extra bulge over the four pin plug), zippered up, and used with external
> power (the way I most often use it).
>
> I bought a non-OEM four pin power cable on eBay and cut it to add an
> extension for a situation I regularly encounter where there is not a DC
> outlet near the place I use it.
>
> I cannot overstate how satisfied I am with the 76Cx. It has become the
> absolute backbone for navigation on the motor yacht deliveries I do and
> has not let me down once. I'm going to give it another chance tomorrow,
> Cape Cod, MA to Mount Desert Island, ME.
>
> Jack

well.. you ought to get a commission... I ordered the case...

Jack Erbes

2007-09-15, 10:33 pm

Larry G wrote:

<snip>
> well.. you ought to get a commission... I ordered the case...

And if you're not happy with it, you can send it to me. :> )

I unstitched and removed the strap thingy on the back of mine finally.
It looks like it was intended to go around a handle bar or something. I
never really found a use for it and it lays flatter with it removed.

Jack

Larry G

2007-09-15, 10:33 pm

On Sep 15, 4:58 pm, Jack Erbes <jac...@midmaine.com> wrote:
> Larry G wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>
> And if you're not happy with it, you can send it to me. :> )
>
> I unstitched and removed the strap thingy on the back of mine finally.
> It looks like it was intended to go around a handle bar or something. I
> never really found a use for it and it lays flatter with it removed.
>
> Jack

how did your boat trip go?

Jack Erbes

2007-09-16, 10:33 pm

Larry G wrote:
> On Sep 15, 4:58 pm, Jack Erbes <jac...@midmaine.com> wrote:
>
> how did your boat trip go?
>

Great! Another faultless performance by the 76Cx. I drove from
Ellsworth, ME to Hyannis, MA (via Boston). The next morning I returned
home on a 36' motor yacht. The boat had a nice Raymarine RL70C chart
plotter but the Garmin had the routes on it. So the RL70C was the big
picture and the 76Cx the close up. Just follow the magenta line...

I did 233 nm in 12 hours and 22 minutes for a 19 knot average. That
includes a 37 minute fuel stop. A long day but it was so nice offshore
that I decided to make a one day trip out of it. If the seas are up
then it turns into a two day trip with an overnight stay in Portland, ME.

I like this route. From Osterville, MA through Woods Hole pass, up
Buzzards Bay, through the Cape Cod Canal and then up to Mount Desert
Island, ME. The off shore seas were down so I was able to make a
beeline run from Sandwich (east end of the canal) past Matinicus Rock to
Long Island then to Southwest Harbor on Mount Desert Island.

I get about 55 miles offshore on that run and spend six hours on the
same heading on the longest leg.

Not much scenery out there though, I saw a few whale blows in the
distance and one partial breach from a rolling gray whale.

But on the run around from Osterville to Sandwich I saw lots of tuna,
bluefish, and stripers tearing up small, localized, schools of herring.
And me without a rod or license...

They have stopped allowing the midwater purse seine trawlers from
totally annihilating the herring schools this year. The herring are
coming back like gangbusters up here in the northeast. They are seeing
a lot more fish and both commercial and sports fisherman are reporting
better catches. They are seeing whales and porpoises feeding in areas
where they have not been seen in some years.

Everyone, except the guys that were running the midwater trawls, is
really excited about the positive aspects of the herring coming back
like that.

Jack

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