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| papabear 2007-09-21, 10:33 pm |
| Is there an auxilliary battery unit available that can plug into a Garmin
2610 when the lighter is non usuable?
Garmin does not make one but they said that there may be one available from
another manufacturer.
Thanks.....
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| Charlie Hoffpauir 2007-09-21, 10:33 pm |
| On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:48:00 -0400, "papabear" <alan111@optonline.net>
wrote:
>Is there an auxilliary battery unit available that can plug into a Garmin
>2610 when the lighter is non usuable?
>Garmin does not make one but they said that there may be one available from
>another manufacturer.
>Thanks.....
>
Just wire a socket to a 12 v battery, like a gel-cell. Or go to an
electronics store and spend more for a fancy packaged unit. Wal-mart
sells a "starter power pack" for about $60 that should power a 2610
for about 3 years.
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Charlie Hoffpauir
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| Jack Erbes 2007-09-22, 12:33 pm |
| papabear wrote:
> Is there an auxilliary battery unit available that can plug into a Garmin
> 2610 when the lighter is non usuable?
> Garmin does not make one but they said that there may be one available from
> another manufacturer.
> Thanks.....
The 2610 will run off of 12/24 Volts per the specs. That implies that
any voltage between 12 and 24 will work. Some other Garmin devices are
described as using a 9-35 Volt input.
I think it all boils down to the specs and quality of the input voltage
regulation that is built into the 2610. I would not be afraid to try to
power it with any 12 to 24 Volt DC source.
And I'd not be surprised to find that it would work with input voltages
in the 9-35V range. But I have not actually used one on anything but
the 12 to 14.5V power that is found in cars and boats.
The Garmin 2610 draws (uses) 6 watts at 13.8V which means it is using
about .43 Amps of power. If you bought a small sealed 12V 7Ah battery
like the ones used in UPS and emergency lighting units, it would, at
least in theory, run the 2610 for about 16 hours or more. Here is such
a battery:
http://www. replacementupsbatter
A small and inexpensive trickle charger (1 to 1.5 Amp charge rate) would
be fine for recharging that battery and it would probably recover the
battery, after a full day of use, with an overnight charge.
Here is a similar battery that is about half the size and weight. It is
rated at 5Ah and would and it would typically be good for 12 hours or
more of use.
http://www. replacementupsbatter
Those are typical batteries at typical prices, that type battery is leak
proof and pretty save to use almost anyplace. You'd have to get a DC
outlet and put terminal lugs on it to attach to the battery.
I have a battery like that and use it around the house, in the sop,
living room, etc., to power various devices that I do not have AC
adapters for. I've been using it for about 5 years and it still works fine.
Jack
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| willshak 2007-09-22, 3:33 pm |
| on 9/21/2007 9:48 PM papabear said the following:
> Is there an auxilliary battery unit available that can plug into a Garmin
> 2610 when the lighter is non usuable?
> Garmin does not make one but they said that there may be one available from
> another manufacturer.
> Thanks.....
What do you mean by the lighter is non-usable?
Is it dead, or do you need another lighter socket when the first is
being used for another item, like a cell phone ?
If the latter, how about this?
http://www.partsamerica.com/Product...tegoryCode=3045
or
http://tinyurl.com/28gak6
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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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| papabear 2007-09-22, 3:33 pm |
| I deliver new and used cars to customers. Sometimes the lighter socket is
dead. Just need a small portable battery pack to carry in the GPS case that
I can plug into when the socket is dead. Thanks.
"willshak" <willshak@00hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> on 9/21/2007 9:48 PM papabear said the following:
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> What do you mean by the lighter is non-usable?
> Is it dead, or do you need another lighter socket when the first is
> being used for another item, like a cell phone ?
> If the latter, how about this?
>
http://www.partsamerica.com/Product...tegoryCode=3045
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/28gak6
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> Bill
> In Hamptonburgh, NY
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| Mike Lane 2007-09-23, 4:33 am |
| On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:58:14 +0100, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote
(in article < eht8f3t8ifuph2cle6bn
79augo78t2ljde@4ax.com> ):
> Wal-mart sells a "starter power pack" for about $60 that should power a
> 2610 for about 3 years.
That sounds an absolute bargain!
My 2610 uses about 0.5 A at 12 volts. So my car battery of 60 AH would power
it for 60/0.5 = 120 hours, or 5 days.
The Wal-mart battery must be truly enormous, and you say it costs just $60.
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Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
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| Charlie Hoffpauir 2007-09-23, 4:33 am |
| On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:49:06 GMT, Mike Lane <invalid@mac.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:58:14 +0100, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote
>(in article < eht8f3t8ifuph2cle6bn
79augo78t2ljde@4ax.com> ):
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>That sounds an absolute bargain!
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>My 2610 uses about 0.5 A at 12 volts. So my car battery of 60 AH would power
>it for 60/0.5 = 120 hours, or 5 days.
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>The Wal-mart battery must be truly enormous, and you say it costs just $60.
Of course, you recharge the car battery occasionally don't you? It
comes with a recharger. A 5-yr life is rather typical, so I went for
three. The unit weighs about 30 lbs, so yes, it is rather enormous.
The one we have (not for powering a GPSR) has lasted about 4 so far,
and still seems to have plenty of life left.
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Charlie Hoffpauir
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~charlieh/
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| Mike Lane 2007-09-23, 4:33 am |
| On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:25:44 +0100, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote
(in article < ft1bf39brasvtmvb9788
5n4quoiccspqvn@4ax.com> ):
> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:49:06 GMT, Mike Lane <invalid@mac.com> wrote:
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> Of course, you recharge the car battery occasionally don't you? It
> comes with a recharger. A 5-yr life is rather typical, so I went for
> three. The unit weighs about 30 lbs, so yes, it is rather enormous.
> The one we have (not for powering a GPSR) has lasted about 4 so far,
> and still seems to have plenty of life left.
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Oh I See. You mean the pack will power it for a few hours and then can be
recharged. OK.
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Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
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| willshak 2007-09-23, 4:33 am |
| on 9/22/2007 3:15 PM papabear said the following:
> I deliver new and used cars to customers. Sometimes the lighter socket is
> dead. Just need a small portable battery pack to carry in the GPS case that
> I can plug into when the socket is dead. Thanks.
>
You could make one...
If you go to a place like Radio Shack, or a radio control model shop,
you can get a plastic battery holder (used to power the RC stuff) that
will hold 4-2.5v AA rechargeables (11v), or 4-AA 3v batteries (12v) for
a buck or two. Like this:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/ys3sbn
For that price, you could pick up more than one and have a few backups.
You would have to wire it to a cigarette lighter recepticle (available
at Autozone, etc.). Would that do?
> "willshak" <willshak@00hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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| willshak 2007-09-23, 4:33 am |
| on 9/22/2007 3:15 PM papabear said the following:
> I deliver new and used cars to customers. Sometimes the lighter socket is
> dead. Just need a small portable battery pack to carry in the GPS case that
> I can plug into when the socket is dead. Thanks.
>
You could make one...
If you go to a place like Radio Shack, or a radio control model shop,
you can get a plastic battery holder (used to power the RC stuff) that
will hold 8-1.25v AA rechargeable (10v), or 8-AA 1.5v batteries (12v)
for a couple of bucks. Like this:
http://www.radioshack.com/sm-8-aa-b...pi-2062251.html
For that price, you could pick up more than one and have a few backups.
You would have to wire it to a cigarette lighter receptacle (available
at Autozone, etc.). Would that do?
> "willshak" <willshak@00hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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| papabear 2007-09-23, 4:33 am |
| Thank you. Great answer. Will go to Radio Shack this week. Hope it works.
Thanks again...
"willshak" <willshak@00hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> on 9/22/2007 3:15 PM papabear said the following:
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> You could make one...
> If you go to a place like Radio Shack, or a radio control model shop,
> you can get a plastic battery holder (used to power the RC stuff) that
> will hold 4-2.5v AA rechargeables (11v), or 4-AA 3v batteries (12v) for
> a buck or two. Like this:
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/ys3sbn
> For that price, you could pick up more than one and have a few backups.
> You would have to wire it to a cigarette lighter recepticle (available
> at Autozone, etc.). Would that do?
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> Bill
> In Hamptonburgh, NY
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| willshak 2007-09-23, 10:33 am |
| on 9/22/2007 11:40 PM papabear said the following:
> Thank you. Great answer. Will go to Radio Shack this week. Hope it works.
> Thanks again...
>
You got this message before I deleted it and posted a corrected
response. In the first, I made a mistake on the voltage of AA batteries.
AA batteries are 1.5v and AA rechargeables are 1.25v.
So you would need an 8 cell holder for 12v and 10v respectively.
They do make 10 AA holders for 15v and 12.5v respectively.
http://www.batteryprice.com/browsep...ery-Holder.html
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> "willshak" <willshak@00hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
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| Mike Lane wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:58:14 +0100, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote
> (in article < eht8f3t8ifuph2cle6bn
79augo78t2ljde@4ax.com> ):
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> That sounds an absolute bargain!
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> My 2610 uses about 0.5 A at 12 volts. So my car battery of 60 AH would power
> it for 60/0.5 = 120 hours, or 5 days.
>
> The Wal-mart battery must be truly enormous, and you say it costs just $60.
>
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What kind of car do you drive that only has a 60 AH battery? Most car
batteries run anywhere from 300 AH on up to 500 or 600 AH
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| Jack Erbes wrote:
> papabear wrote:
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> The 2610 will run off of 12/24 Volts per the specs. That implies that
> any voltage between 12 and 24 will work. Some other Garmin devices are
> described as using a 9-35 Volt input.
>
> I think it all boils down to the specs and quality of the input voltage
> regulation that is built into the 2610. I would not be afraid to try to
> power it with any 12 to 24 Volt DC source.
>
> And I'd not be surprised to find that it would work with input voltages
> in the 9-35V range. But I have not actually used one on anything but
> the 12 to 14.5V power that is found in cars and boats.
>
> The Garmin 2610 draws (uses) 6 watts at 13.8V which means it is using
> about .43 Amps of power. If you bought a small sealed 12V 7Ah battery
> like the ones used in UPS and emergency lighting units, it would, at
> least in theory, run the 2610 for about 16 hours or more. Here is such
> a battery:
>
> http://www. replacementupsbatter
>
> A small and inexpensive trickle charger (1 to 1.5 Amp charge rate) would
> be fine for recharging that battery and it would probably recover the
> battery, after a full day of use, with an overnight charge.
>
> Here is a similar battery that is about half the size and weight. It is
> rated at 5Ah and would and it would typically be good for 12 hours or
> more of use.
>
> http://www. replacementupsbatter
>
> Those are typical batteries at typical prices, that type battery is leak
> proof and pretty save to use almost anyplace. You'd have to get a DC
> outlet and put terminal lugs on it to attach to the battery.
>
> I have a battery like that and use it around the house, in the sop,
> living room, etc., to power various devices that I do not have AC
> adapters for. I've been using it for about 5 years and it still works fine.
>
> Jack
If there is a Batteries Plus store nearby they also carry batteries of
this type. I would suggest getting a larger capacity battery then what
you think you need, that way you wont run it down as much each time you
use it. The closer you run a lead acid or gel cell battery to the point
where they are completely dead is hard on them and will shorten their life.
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| John Tserkezis 2007-09-24, 10:33 pm |
| Don B wrote:
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> What kind of car do you drive that only has a 60 AH battery? Most car
> batteries run anywhere from 300 AH on up to 500 or 600 AH
What kind of car do you drive that uses a 300-600A/h battery?!
You must be thinking of crank amps, where 300-600Amps would be about
expected, but as far as capacity goes, 60something A/h sounds very normal for
your normal "family" car.
To the original poster: If the Walmart batteries are the "normal" car
batteries that are the wet type lead/acid flavours, you would be better
advised to use the Gel SLA batteries, where the electrolyte is a solid gel
rather than a fluid acid. The "Gel Cells" are not smelly, and there is no
risk of spills. And spills are more than just inconvenient.
Another consideration is battery life. Discharging this type of battery
then recharging again from flat is going to kill it (faster). They are
designed to be used a bit, charged a bit, etc. There are "deep cycle" type
SLAs available that offer better life for flattening before charging. Normal
wet lead acids are harder/impossible to find in the deep cycle flavour. With
very regular (just about continuous) use of GPS units and consequent
recharging, will result in an overall live of about two possibly three years
before the capacity drops to about half of original. The non-deep types would
last no more than about two years at most. (in our experience).
Trade-off is, SLA, and more so deep cycle types are more expensive than the
wets. You'll need to do some testing and see if the the wet type bargains are
cheap enough to match or exceed the life of the SLA gel types. And then only
if the wet type is of no risk of spills (or the consequence of spills is minimal).
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| John Tserkezis wrote:
> Don B wrote:
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> What kind of car do you drive that uses a 300-600A/h battery?!
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> You must be thinking of crank amps, where 300-600Amps would be about
> expected, but as far as capacity goes, 60something A/h sounds very
> normal for your normal "family" car.
I stand corrected, you're right, I was thinking of CCA.
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