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Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 7:33 am

Hi there gurus of gps,
I recently bought a new Garmin 670 at Fryes for a thousand dollars for a
trip to Europe and surrounds and figured I'd ask this question of you
gogps.

My question is how do I turn (back) ON the speaking of street names?

The brand new Garmin Nuvi 670 started off vocalizing street names, but then
it plumb forgot how to verbalize street names only a day or two into the
trip. :(

Apparently I selected some obscure setting that turned off the voicing of
street names ... but I'd be darned if I can find that obtuse setting in
order to turn street name pronunciation back on.

Frustrated, a week into the trip, I worked around it by resetting
everything on the Garmin Nuvi 670 back to original factory settings ...
then, a day or two later ... uttering of street names by the Garmin Nuvi
670 suddently stopped again.

What am I doing which turns OFF Garmin Nuvi 670 street name enunciation?
What can I do to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?

Donna
Tom

2007-08-13, 10:33 am


Quite simply, when you change the voice of the GPS unit, make sure you
select a voice langauge which has (TTS) at the end of it.

TTS = Text To Speech

Other options will give you guidance, but won't speak the street
names.



On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:14:14 GMT, Donna Davis <ddavis42@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Hi there gurus of gps,
>I recently bought a new Garmin 670 at Fryes for a thousand dollars for a
>trip to Europe and surrounds and figured I'd ask this question of you
>gogps.
>
>My question is how do I turn (back) ON the speaking of street names?
>
>The brand new Garmin Nuvi 670 started off vocalizing street names, but then
>it plumb forgot how to verbalize street names only a day or two into the
>trip. :(
>
>Apparently I selected some obscure setting that turned off the voicing of
>street names ... but I'd be darned if I can find that obtuse setting in
>order to turn street name pronunciation back on.
>
>Frustrated, a week into the trip, I worked around it by resetting
>everything on the Garmin Nuvi 670 back to original factory settings ...
>then, a day or two later ... uttering of street names by the Garmin Nuvi
>670 suddently stopped again.
>
>What am I doing which turns OFF Garmin Nuvi 670 street name enunciation?
>What can I do to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?
>
>Donna



Tom
Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:14:14 GMT, Donna Davis wrote:
> What am I doing which turns OFF Garmin Nuvi 670 street name enunciation?
> What can I do to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?


Another question is how to delete all the unused (or unneeded) ICONS on the
Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop screens?

A good number of the icons in my brand new Garmin Nuvi 670 either don't do
anything or don't do anything useful (to me).

Even Windows allows one to delete unwanted icons. But I could find nowhere
on the Garmin Nuvi 670 how to delete the rather large set of useless (or
nearly useless) program selection buttons which take up valuable space on
the Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop screens.

How does one delete those numerous square buttons on the Garmin Nuvi 670
which either don't do anything useful (why the heck are they there taking
up space anyway) or which don't do anything interesting (for me)?

Donna
PS: Should I ask these questions on separate threads?
Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

>> What am I doing which turns OFF Garmin Nuvi 670 street name enunciation?
> Another question is how to delete all the unused (or unneeded) ICONS on the
> Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop screens?


A third question is how to get the Garmin Nuvi 670 to simply ask me each
time whether I want to travel the shortest or the quickest route each time
I select a destination to route to.

I simply can't believe this most basic of user preferences is too much to
ask of a GPS unit nowadays (or is it?).

Certainly, if I painstakingly navigate through the default settings, after
passing by a series of unwanted desktop icons, I can finally get to the
initial setup step that sets the default to EITHER shortest OR quickest.

But, where is the button to simply ASK me each time whether I want the
shortest or the fastest route? Can it be that everyone wants either one or
the other all the time? I can't believe that ... so there MUST be a setting
(somehwere, hidden behind one of those very numerous icons) that simply
tells the Garmin Nuvi 670 to ask me each time whether I desire the shortest
distance or the fastest time to destination.

May I ask you gurus of GPS ...

Where is the Nuvi 670 setting which tells the Garmin GPS to simply ASK each
time I add a destination whether I want the shortest or the quickest route?

Donna
Bruce.

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> A third question is how to get the Garmin Nuvi 670 to simply ask me each
> time whether I want to travel the shortest or the quickest route each time
> I select a destination to route to.


There isn't such an option. The routing setting you already found is the
only way to set it.

Bruce.


Bruce.

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:14:14 GMT, Donna Davis wrote:

As the other poster say, chose a voice that has TTS at the end of the name.
[color=darkred]
> Another question is how to delete all the unused (or unneeded) ICONS on
> the
> Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop screens?


You can't. The menus are fixed.

Bruce.


Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

> What can I do to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?
> How to delete the many unused (or unneeded) Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop icons?
> How to get the Nuvi 670 to ask if shortest or quickest route is desired?


Another very basic question of the Garmin Nuvi 670 is how to set the
simulation speed.

I desired to simulate a complex route containing both highway and small
roads and was dismayed to not be able to find the setting for simulation
SPEED.

I was shocked that I had to wallow in disbelief as the simulator
painstakingly crawled through hundreds of miles of straight highway, taking
vast numbers of minutes, eventually making the simulator option, at least
on the Garmin Nuvi 670, utterly useless.

I can't believe that there is only a single simulator speed on the Garmin
Nuvi 670 ...

I ask you gurus of GPS ... (because I simply can not find it) ...
What sequence of buttons sets the simulation speed on the Garmin Nuvi 670?

Donna
Bruce.

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Another very basic question of the Garmin Nuvi 670 is how to set the
> simulation speed.


You can't. The speed is fixed. It probably varies depending on the road
type, but you can't control it.

Bruce.



Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

> How to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?
--> Switch the speaking voice to one with "Text-to-Speech" (TTS).
> How to delete the many unused (or unneeded) Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop icons?

--> You can't.
> How to get the Nuvi 670 to ask if shortest or quickest route is desired?

--> ?
> How to change the simulation speed setting on the Garmin Nuvi 670?

--> ?

Another very basic question is ...

Where is the setting which simply asks whether I want to manually accept
using bluetooth on the Garmin Nuvi 670 when a call is made or received?

I think I'm a bit confused here in that, once paired to my Blackberry, the
Garmin Nuvi 670 always seems to pick up automatically when I make or
receive a phone call within a few feet of the automobile.

But, sometimes, even when I'm within bluetooth distance of the Garmin Nuvi
670, I don't wish to use the bluetooth connection with my Blackberry.

For example, I was at a gas station, a few feet outside my rental, when I
received a call and I had to keep jumping inside the car in order to carry
on a conversation which I preferred to carry on using my earbud outside the
car.

I seem to remember there was a Nuvi 570 splash screen setting to ask each
time when I initially paired the bluetooth but I deleted the bluetooth
pairing on the Garmin Nuvi 670 numerous times and I don't see that setting
anymore. Where did it go?

I ask the Garmin Nuvi 670 gurus ...

Where is the Garmin Nuvi 670 setting to ask each time whether or not to
accept an incoming or outgoing bluetooth device connection?

Donna
Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

Suggestion to Garmin:

Please make the setting for choosing the TIME more obvious!

Once initially set up, I would bet that it will take some of you (like it
did me) more than fifteen minutes just to FIND the setting to change the
clock time as you travel from time zone to time zone!

Request: If you have a Garmin Nuvi 670, please try to change the clock time
and write back if it was intuitive to you or not.

It's certainly NOT in any intuitive location for me ...
a. It's not in the "System" settings.
b. It's not in the "World Clock" settings.
c. It's not in the "Display" settings.
d. It's not in the "Map" settings.
e. It's not in the "Navigation" settings.
f. It's not in the "Travel Kit" huge series of (mostly useless) settings.
g. It's not even in the initial four "Locale" settings.

Even after exasperatingly finally finding the exact unintuitive sequence to
change the time zone, I never did find the setting to change the actual
time.

My suggestion to Garmin:
Please improve the intuitiveness of setting the clock time & zone!
Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

QUESTIONS
> How to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?

Answer = Use a Text-to-Speech (TTS) voice.
> How to delete the many unused (or unneeded) Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop icons?

Answer = You can't.
> How to get the Nuvi 670 to ask if shortest or quickest route is desired?
> How to change the Garmin Nuvi 670 default simulation speed?


SUGGESTIONS:
> Please make the changing of default time and zone more intuitive.


Another suggestion is for Garmin to change the name of the "Food, Lodging
...." to be something that actually represents what's behind that most basic
of buttons.

I mean, the absolute last place I'd look for "Airports" is under "Food,
Lodging". Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand why things like
"Bank/ATM" would be under "Food, Lodging". Likewise with "Parking" being
under "Food, Lodging" on the Garmin Nuvi 670.

After a while, you realize that "Food, Lodging" actually contains non-food
non-lodging items such as "Hospitals", "Recreation", "Community",
"Transit", "Auto Services", etc. ... but it isn't usability if you have to
write a sticky note in your head that "Food, Lodging" isn't food and
lodging at all. It's all the other points of interest that you might wish
to find.

My related question to you GPS gurus is do all other GPS devices put things
like "Fuel" & "ATMs" hidden behind a big fat button which is labelled
"Food, Lodging"?

Or is the Garmin Nuvi 670 just different that way?
Bruce.

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Suggestion to Garmin:
>
> Please make the setting for choosing the TIME more obvious!


Press the clock face in World Time. You can change the timezone, but not
the time as the time is set by the satellites.

But I agree, the timezone setting belongs in the main Settings.

Bruce.


Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:03:20 -0500, Bruce. wrote:
>
> There isn't such an option.


Thanks Bruce.

You seem to know the Garmin Nuvi 670 well. I wish I had read a review or
two BEFORE buying this Nuvi as I would likely have found out all these
unsettable things ahead of time.

For a thousand dollars, I expected (much) more. I wonder if other
thousand-dollar GPS devices allow you to switch between shortest or
quickest routes more easily???

Anyway, I'll summarize your answers to the set my questions soon so other
newbies have the information handy in a single posting.

Donna
Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:04:50 -0500, Bruce. wrote:
>
> You can't. The menus are fixed.


Thanks again Bruce.

Personally, I'm utterly shocked that the Garmin Nuvi 670 has so many
useless or nearly useless (and unremovable) icons - the simplest of
settings aren't there (such as asking whether we want the shortest or
quickest route).

I mean, there's a huge half-inch-square icon for "Extras" which is empty, a
similarly huge icon for a "Travel Guide" which is empty, another huge icon
for a "Savers Guide" which is empty, an huge icon for a "World Clock" which
doesn't allow you to set the time zone or clock, yet another icon for the
"Locale" which has no obvious button for setting the time zone or time,
etc. ...

With so many utterly useless (and nearly useless) icons on such a small
unit where real estate is of a premium and where items are in wholly
unintuitive locations (try to set the time some day or to find an ATM)
you'd think Garmin would at least give us the option of deleting unused or
unneeded icons on the rather expensive Garmin Nuvi 670.

May I ask GPS gurus ...

Do the other expensive (thousand dollar range) GPS units also not allow you
to hide unneeded and useless (i.e., totally empty) icons?

Donna
Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:34:18 +1000, Tom wrote:

> select a voice langauge which has (TTS) at the end of it.
> TTS = Text To Speech
> Other options will give you guidance, but won't speak the street
> names.


Thank you Tom!

That TTS abbreviation next to the Garmin Nuvi 670 voice selection is
certainly unintuitive to me but I'm admittedly and obviously not a GPS guru
who, I presume, already know these things.

Now that I know that TTS speaks the street names, I will be sure to use it
in all my future voice selections.

This street annunciation on the Garmin Nuvi 670 is now no problem as your
answer is intuitive once I already know the answer. :)

Thanks,
Donna
Bruce.

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I wish I had read a review or
> two BEFORE buying this Nuvi as I would likely have found out all these
> unsettable things ahead of time.


There are lots of 3x0/6x0 series reviews out there, but it would be hard to
find one that summarizes features the Nuvi's don't have, except for the
missing features that competing models do have.

> For a thousand dollars, I expected (much) more. I wonder if other
> thousand-dollar GPS devices allow you to switch between shortest or
> quickest routes more easily???


For me I prefer it the way it is so I don't get the extra question every
time I pick a destination. My preferences don't change very often. I don't
know if other GPSs have what you want.

Bruce.


Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:25:07 -0500, Bruce. wrote:

>
> You can't. The speed is fixed.


Thanks again Bruce.

I'm shocked that the speed setting is not user selectable.
This makes the simulation option wholly unusable to me.

Are the other thousand-dollar GPS devices similarly restricted to a set
simulation speed?

Or, is it that the setting of a simulation speed is not a usability option
that any other GPS device users actually would want?

Maybe it's just me,
Donna
Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:19:06 -0500, Bruce. wrote:

> For me I prefer it the way it is so I don't get the extra question every
> time I pick a destination. My preferences don't change very often. I don't
> know if other GPSs have what you want.


Thanks Bruce,

I understand ... but given the very many unneeded and unused (i.e., totally
empty!) icons on the Garmin desktop, you'd think GPS engineers could simply
change the a one-line default setting to say something like:

[] Ask me each time or just default to shortest (or quickest)?

That way, people like you could default to shortest or quickest, and people
like me could get asked each time when we want to get asked.

I can't believe this "ask-me" setting isn't a GPS option on other GPS
devices (maybe it is) but if I were the one testing a GPS device, within
the first few hours, this setting would be my very first suggestion to the
GPS engineers!

Thanks for helping me,
Donna
Bruce.

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> an huge icon for a "World Clock" which
> doesn't allow you to set the time zone or clock,


It does. Press the clock face and you will get to set the time zone, 12/24
hour mode, and Daylight Savings Time.

> With so many utterly useless (and nearly useless) icons on such a small
> unit where real estate is of a premium and where items are in wholly
> unintuitive locations (try to set the time some day or to find an ATM)
> you'd think Garmin would at least give us the option of deleting unused or
> unneeded icons on the rather expensive Garmin Nuvi 670.


That would indeed be nice. Many of the icons are advertising for optional
extra cost software many of us will never buy.

Bruce.


Bruce.

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I understand ... but given the very many unneeded and unused (i.e.,
> totally
> empty!) icons on the Garmin desktop, you'd think GPS engineers could
> simply
> change the a one-line default setting to say something like:
>
> [] Ask me each time or just default to shortest (or quickest)?


While true, there are also also other questions others might want it to ask.
Avoid tollways, avoid unpaved roads, avoid traffic, avoid U-turns, etc.,
etc. The number of questions per destination could get pretty long. In my
case my answers would never change. Just get me there as fast as possible.

> That way, people like you could default to shortest or quickest, and
> people
> like me could get asked each time when we want to get asked.
>
> I can't believe this "ask-me" setting isn't a GPS option on other GPS
> devices (maybe it is) but if I were the one testing a GPS device, within
> the first few hours, this setting would be my very first suggestion to the
> GPS engineers!


You could email your suggestions to Garmin support. I'm not sure if they
read these forums or not.

Bruce.


Bruce.

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'm shocked that the speed setting is not user selectable.
> This makes the simulation option wholly unusable to me.


I think the simulation mode is mostly intended as a sales tool for demoing
the units in store displays, rather than as a useful feature for users.

Bruce.


Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:57:46 -0500, Bruce. wrote:

>
> Press the clock face in World Time.
> You can change the timezone, but not the time
> I agree, the timezone setting belongs in the main Settings.


Hi Bruce,
Now THAT is very interesting!

Guess why?

Why? I had found a DIFFERENT (just as unintuitive) way to change the time
zone on the Garmin Nuvi 670.

What's so amazingly wierd to me is that Garmin chose to provide TWO
different wholly unintuitive ways to set the clock time zone ... it's
almost funny when you think about it. I had to laugh when I saw your
response showing Method #1 which is to press the (almost totally useless
otherwise) "Travel Kit" and then the "World Clock" and then, not the actual
time as displayed but the clock face itself in that World Clock.

I had given up long ago on the otherwise useless "Travel Kit" so I didn't
know about your method.

The method I had found of changing the time zone on the Garmin Nuvi 670
world GPS unit was to go to the "Main Settings" and press "Locale" but to
ignore the clock settings in the Locale section as they will only allow you
to change to 12 or 24 hour or UTC. This is the unintuitive part (i.e., to
ignore the main settings clock settings).

In fact, ignore all four "Locale" settings as the time zone setting is not
there. But wait! Don't give up. Don't go back. Assume there is more hidden
stuff. Yup. Instead of hitting the clock (that would be too intuitive), and
instead of going back (as none of the initial options presented will change
the time zone), instead, hit the "Change All" button (which you'd think
would only change the four Locale settings presented prior ... but you'd be
wrong.

By hitting "Change All", you get a fifth (previously hidden) option to set
the time zone.

Wow. My batter died in the time it took to find the clock time zone
settings on the Garmin Nuvi 670.

Donna
Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:47:05 +0300, Donna Davis wrote:
> Wow. My battery died in the time it took to find the clock time zone
> settings on the Garmin Nuvi 670.


OK. That brings me to a peeve. My battery is nearly dead. So I want to
power it up next to my computer. So I plug in the USB power supply I use
for my Blackberry. Guess what.

The Garmin Nuvi 670 locks up. It thinks it's connected to a computer if the
desktop icon is any indication. So, I can't test anymore. In fact, I went
out to my car and was similarly shocked that I can't run off the USB 12v to
5v adapter in my car. I hadn't even noticed that until now.

What gives?

I don't see any indicator on the Garmin Nuvi 670 that shows the battery is
charging while the Garmin Nuvi 670 is connected to either the car usb
charger, the wall usb charger or a straight usb cable to the computer.

Is there any indication on the Garmin Nuvi 670 that it can charge or run
off the usb cable? Or does the usb connector on the Garmin Nuvi 670 just
handle data (the indicator seems to indicate just data) and nothing else?

Donna
PS I can't test any more until I recharge or power up the Nuvi 670 somehow
if it won't work with usb. Sorry.
Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 09:39:56 -0500, Bruce. wrote:

>
> I think the simulation mode is mostly intended as a sales tool


I would have to agree. Luckily there is a written description of the route
which is intuitive to find on the Garmin Nuvi 670.

Which brings me to a related basic route information question that bothered
me from the day I turned on the Garmin Nuvi 670.

On the Garmin Nuvi 670, the route information shows only distance-to-turn
information ... and not any other potentially useful route information:
<- 0.4 mi Left on Main St
-> 0.5 mi Right on River Ave
^ 4.0 mi Keep left onto I-80 to New York

What I think would be useful would be total distance and perhaps even time
like that which Google maps provide.

Does the Garmin Nuvi 670 have a (perhaps hidden) option to display total
accrued distance to each turn in addition to the mid-way distance between
individual turns?

Would other GPS devices provide that basic information?

Donna
PS Being that I'm a basic GPS user, I am beginning to wonder ... Are these
very simple things I'm asking for NOT basic GPS requirements?
Donna Davis

2007-08-13, 10:33 am

QUESTIONS
Q1: How to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?
A1: Use a Text-to-Speech (TTS) voice.

Q2: How to delete unused (or unneeded) Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop icons?
A2: You can't.

Q3: How to get the Nuvi 670 to ask for shortest or quickest route?
A3: You can't.

Q4: How to change the Garmin Nuvi 670 default simulation speed?
A4: You can't.

Q5: How to change the time Garmin Nuvi 670 timezone & time?
A5: The time is fixed; two ways to change the time zone:
#1 Main Settings:Locale:Chan
ge All
#2 Travel Kit:World Clock:Clock Face

Q6: How to manually accept or reject Nuvi 670 bluetooth connections?
A6: ?

Q7: Where is the Nuvi 670 battery charge indicator while on USB power?
A7: ?

Q8: How to get the Nuvi 670 to show accrued distance and/or time?
A8: ?

Q9: Do ANY thousand-dollar GPS devices provide these 8 features?
A9: ?

Donna
Dan Anderson

2007-08-13, 12:33 pm

Donna Davis wrote:
> Another very basic question of the Garmin Nuvi 670 is how to set the
> simulation speed.
>
> I desired to simulate a complex route containing both highway and small
> roads and was dismayed to not be able to find the setting for simulation
> SPEED.


I'm not familiar with the Nuvi models but on some other Garmin
models the simulation speed can be set by going to a field
that normally just displays the speed. In the simulation mode
the speed can be changed/set. I don't think it's documented
in any Garmin manual. So there might be some obscure way to
set it but I'd be surprised.

--
Dan
(email change 2001 to 2004)
(www.gpsmap.net)
Bruce.

2007-08-13, 12:33 pm

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> By hitting "Change All", you get a fifth (previously hidden) option to set
> the time zone.


Interesting. That looks like setup that's invoked when the unit is turned
on for the very first time.

Bruce.


Bruce.

2007-08-13, 12:33 pm

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is there any indication on the Garmin Nuvi 670 that it can charge or run
> off the usb cable? Or does the usb connector on the Garmin Nuvi 670 just
> handle data (the indicator seems to indicate just data) and nothing else?


Yes, it can't be used as a gps while it is cabled to a PC via USB. However,
it is charging and it also can be used as a USB hard drive.

It also charges while using the car cable and using the optional AC adapter
too. It can be used as a gps with both of those. Only the PC USB cable
disables its use as a gps.

Bruce.


Bruce.

2007-08-13, 12:33 pm

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On the Garmin Nuvi 670, the route information shows only distance-to-turn
> information ... and not any other potentially useful route information:
> <- 0.4 mi Left on Main St
> -> 0.5 mi Right on River Ave
> ^ 4.0 mi Keep left onto I-80 to New York
>
> What I think would be useful would be total distance and perhaps even time
> like that which Google maps provide.
>
> Does the Garmin Nuvi 670 have a (perhaps hidden) option to display total
> accrued distance to each turn in addition to the mid-way distance between
> individual turns?


No, not if I understand your question correctly. All you have is distance
to turn, total distance traveled so far on the trip display (press the lower
left corner in 3D mode), and estimated time of arrival.

Bruce.


Bruce.

2007-08-13, 12:33 pm

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> QUESTIONS


You may find the FAQ list here useful:

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/...?TOPIC_ID=57830

Bruce.


Andrew Hamilton

2007-08-13, 12:33 pm

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:22:31 +0300, Donna Davis <ddavis42@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>QUESTIONS
>Q1: How to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?
>A1: Use a Text-to-Speech (TTS) voice.
>
>Q2: How to delete unused (or unneeded) Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop icons?
>A2: You can't.
>
>Q3: How to get the Nuvi 670 to ask for shortest or quickest route?
>A3: You can't.
>
>Q4: How to change the Garmin Nuvi 670 default simulation speed?
>A4: You can't.
>
>Q5: How to change the time Garmin Nuvi 670 timezone & time?
>A5: The time is fixed; two ways to change the time zone:
> #1 Main Settings:Locale:Chan
ge All
> #2 Travel Kit:World Clock:Clock Face
>
>Q6: How to manually accept or reject Nuvi 670 bluetooth connections?
>A6: ?
>
>Q7: Where is the Nuvi 670 battery charge indicator while on USB power?
>A7: ?
>
>Q8: How to get the Nuvi 670 to show accrued distance and/or time?
>A8: ?
>
>Q9: Do ANY thousand-dollar GPS devices provide these 8 features?
>A9: ?
>
>Donna


Donna,

Are you writing us all these messages while (whilst) on your vacation
(holiday) in Europe? Which countries?

Are you also using the Nuvi for mapping out pedestrian routes, say in
Paris or Rome? (I would never willingly drive in either of those
cities!)
-AH
Mike Lane

2007-08-13, 12:33 pm

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:03:53 +0100, Donna Davis wrote
(in article <dxZvi.33183$2v1.17105@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net> ):

> For a thousand dollars, I expected (much) more. I wonder if other
> thousand-dollar GPS devices allow you to switch between shortest or
> quickest routes more easily???


My Garmin StreetPilot 2610 does this. You can set it to offer the choice
every time it calculates a new route or just use the previous setting if
that's what you want.

It also offers a third choice along with Quickest and Shortest which is the
most interesting. Here you can set on a sliding scale the degree to which you
prefer three categories of road: 'Major', 'Medium' and 'Minor'.

--
Mike Lane (UK North Yorkshire)
To contact me replace invalid with mike underscore lane

Dana

2007-08-13, 10:33 pm

My Nuvi 680 has dozens of bugs, I'm sure some of which are similar to yours.

My car GPS knows where it is, and changes the clock time while driving.
One would think that a $1000 GPS would know where it is and at least "ask"
to update it's clock / time zone based on were it is.
I really don't understand why people defend this crap Nuvi. Call it what it
is... Great piece of hardware, terrible / buggy software.
For one of many examples, some idiot at Garmin put the "back button" on top
of the "Stop Navigation" button. So, while driving, the sequence to get out
of a menu item is Back, back, back, back, stop navigation !!!
Come on! That's basic programming 101. Garmin has been in this business
too long to be making stupid programming like this.
When navigating in something other that car mode (ie Pedestrian), to switch
back to car mode, you have to scrool up!! What! Garmin didn't fit all the
options on 1 page. They could have.
Again, great hardware, but the gave the software development to some idiot
with not much experience. Call it what it is...Terrible!
(Pedestrian mode takes you down a highway by the way...bug # 98)

I've been a Garmin fan for a while, hardware is good, but I will no longer
buy there products.. Too many software bugs.
A $1000 Nuvi should really be a "Wow" product. It really should be the GPS
of choice for those who want a lot of features. It's been nothing but a big
disapointment.
--
Dana


"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ziZvi.33181$2v1.32882@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
> Suggestion to Garmin:
>
> Please make the setting for choosing the TIME more obvious!
>
> Once initially set up, I would bet that it will take some of you (like it
> did me) more than fifteen minutes just to FIND the setting to change the
> clock time as you travel from time zone to time zone!
>
> Request: If you have a Garmin Nuvi 670, please try to change the clock
> time
> and write back if it was intuitive to you or not.
>
> It's certainly NOT in any intuitive location for me ...
> a. It's not in the "System" settings.
> b. It's not in the "World Clock" settings.
> c. It's not in the "Display" settings.
> d. It's not in the "Map" settings.
> e. It's not in the "Navigation" settings.
> f. It's not in the "Travel Kit" huge series of (mostly useless) settings.
> g. It's not even in the initial four "Locale" settings.
>
> Even after exasperatingly finally finding the exact unintuitive sequence
> to
> change the time zone, I never did find the setting to change the actual
> time.
>
> My suggestion to Garmin:
> Please improve the intuitiveness of setting the clock time & zone!



Bruce.

2007-08-13, 10:33 pm

"Dana" <ddelouis@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:%l3wi.216$wN3.51@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
> I've been a Garmin fan for a while, hardware is good, but I will no longer
> buy there products.. Too many software bugs.
> A $1000 Nuvi should really be a "Wow" product. It really should be the
> GPS of choice for those who want a lot of features. It's been nothing but
> a big disapointment.


I'm not sure where you bought it, but ErwinComputer has the 670 for $732.

But no matter, sounds like you've decided to return it. I certainly
wouldn't keep something that makes you that unhappy.

Brucec.


Edwin Pawlowski

2007-08-13, 10:33 pm


"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> I mean, there's a huge half-inch-square icon for "Extras" which is empty,
> a
> similarly huge icon for a "Travel Guide" which is empty, another huge icon
> for a "Savers Guide" which is empty, an huge icon for a "World Clock"
> which
> doesn't allow you to set the time zone or clock, yet another icon for the
> "Locale" which has no obvious button for setting the time zone or time,
> etc. ...


Travel Guide has the currency converter but II find it just as easy to
multiply the Euro by 1.4 (last trip is was only 1.3) in my head and be close
enough for daily transactions. For $75 and up, you can buy the accessory
travel guide.

Locale allows you to set the language Not the most intuitive method, but
not useless either. It has to be there somehow to make it universal as the
unit is sold other than the US.

>
> With so many utterly useless (and nearly useless) icons on such a small
> unit where real estate is of a premium and where items are in wholly
> unintuitive locations (try to set the time some day or to find an ATM)
> you'd think Garmin would at least give us the option of deleting unused or
> unneeded icons on the rather expensive Garmin Nuvi 670.


They don't want you to delete the options buttons, they want you to buy the
options. While they seem to be in the way for many of us, they are a profit
making business looking for opportunities to sell a service.


> Do the other expensive (thousand dollar range) GPS units also not allow
> you
> to hide unneeded and useless (i.e., totally empty) icons?


I'd be happy to do the same with the channels I never watch on the cable
guide, but the cable company does not allow me to. Same reason, I guess.




Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:06:43 GMT, Mike Lane wrote:

> You can set [my Garmin StreetPilot 2610] to offer the choice
> every time it calculates a new route or just use the previous setting
> you can set on a sliding scale the degree to which you
> prefer three categories of road: 'Major', 'Medium' and 'Minor'.


Hi Mike,
Yes, that's exactly what I would want. It seems like such a very basic
mandatory requirement. I remember a friend's Garmin StreetPilot III which
also gave the users the perfect option of something like (from memory):

( ) Always route shortest (i.e., don't ask me again)
( ) Always route fastest (again, don't bother asking me each time)
(0) Or, ask me each time

For the Garmin Nuvi 670 to not have this basic feature is sort of like
having an automobile that asks you once "Do you want to enter via the
driver door or the passenger door" and then locking you out of the other
choice by default.

If you want to actually change the default to enter the passenger side
door, you have to crawl into the trunk and flip through some obscure
switches ... and now you can get into (only) the passenger door.

If you want to switch back to the driver-side door (which you use the
most), then you AGAIN have to crawl into the trunk to flip through the
obscure switches ... and now you can only enter through (only) the driver
side door.

Donna


Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:43:35 -0400, Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> For $75 and up, you can buy the accessory travel guide.


I'm never going to buy the additional stuff that Garmin is trying to sell
me. Never. It's an emotional thing. Not logicial. Just like I never use
Internet Explorer, I remove the desktop icon with a vengence the minute I
see it pop up on my desktop.

Here's the problem. I'm an emotional person. Maybe more so than most of you
hard-core GPS gurus. I'll bet more and more emotional people are buying GPS
nowadays, as compared to the rocket scientists of the past.

It irks me every single time I have to scroll through those useless
advertising icons. Maybe for you GPS gurus it doesn't bother you, but, as
for me, every single day, it nags me like the water faucet dripping that my
significant other doesn't fix for me.

I begin to hate the manufacturer who put those totally useless and empty
icons on my Garmin desktop. It irks me more and more each and every day. I
begin to hate Garmin, for no other reason than they ruined an otherwise
perfectly good interface. Every day it irks me more and more and more.

It's a feeling. Not a science. My mind can see no good reason to put
totally useless (and most of them are purely empty) icons on my desktop
that I can't use.

Does this make any sense to you or am I rambling on too much?
I guess I'm a different buyer ... and I'm guessing that Garmin really
doesn't want to sell to me. But, every day it gets me more and more ticked
off that Garmin didn't even test this GPS or if they did, they didn't care
when someone asked "why is this useless icon not removable?".

Donna
Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:37:59 -0500, Bruce. wrote:

> Interesting. That looks like setup that's invoked when the unit is turned
> on for the very first time.


If I remember correctly, it IS the setup that was invoked when the Garmin
Nuvi 670 was first turned on. I'm guessing they hid this additional
timezone setup because we weren't supposed to find it. :)

I'm ok now with the timezone setup because you helped me find it. The
biggest problem I have now is just getting the Garmin Nuvi 670 to ask me
whether I wish to route shortest or quickest.

Do these GPS devices have "shortcut" buttons where you can have an icon on
the screen which can be programmed to do obscure and complicated things
(complicated on the Garmin 670 anyway) like asking for either the shortest
or quickest route?

Donna
Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:47:36 -0500, Bruce. wrote:

> The Nuvi 670 can't be used as a gps while it is cabled to a PC via USB.
> Only the USB cable disables its use as a gps.


This is surprising. If the Garmin Nuvi 670 didn't already have a usb slot,
I wouldn't ask this - but why - since it has a usb slot, wouldn't the
Garmin Nuvi 670 just run off the usb slot.

This would be handy for me because I have both a Blackberry and the Garmin
Nuvi 670. If they both used the same power supply, I'd have less clutter in
my cockpit.

I drive to customers all over and often I have to hide my electronics. My
European car has precious little cargo space - actually - almost none in
the front seat (sometimes I wonder about the Europeans' lifestyle) - so I'm
always spending minutes hiding all the cables.

Why would Garmin give the usb cable all the power to charge the Nuvi 670
but not the power to run it?
Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:41:04 -0400, Dana wrote:

> My Nuvi 680 has dozens of bugs, I'm sure some of which are similar to yours.
> My car GPS knows where it is, and changes the clock time while driving.
> One would think that a $1000 GPS would know where it is and at least "ask"
> to update it's clock / time zone based on were it is.


I hadn't thought of that (I just couldn't find where the timezone settings
were but with your help, I found them in TWO obscure places!) LOL

Plus, I didn't realize until you guys told me, that the time is set by the
satellite.

So, given the Garmin Nuvi 670 knows where it is, and if it knows the
universal time, then why the heck wouldn't a thousand-dollar GPS device not
have the option to set the timezone automatically?

I agree with you.

Now, since my Garmin Nuvi 670 is new, I can still return it (with a 15%
restocking fee). Is there a more user friendly GPS out there?

My main requirements are:
- the thing has to work as well or as fast as the Nuvi 670
- it should be able to ask me for the shortest or quickest route
- the screen size should be as big as the Garmin Nuvi 670
- it would be nice to be usb driven so I can eliminate car clutter
- it can cost as much as a thousand dollars

Does such a GPS device exist?

Donna
Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:41:04 -0400, Dana wrote:

> Again, great hardware, but the gave the software development to some idiot
> with not much experience.


Hi Dana,
I hadn't realized this is what it is but I believe you on the
"hardware:good, software:bad" assessment of the Garmin Nuvi 670.

I very much like the Garmin Nuvi 670 hardware "form factor" (with the
exception of the usb bugs). It's small. Light. The suction cup sticks like
a spider on the wall. The power cord would be a more usable if it were
coiled like a phone cord ... and the power plug itself is too long (it's
not like it's a Cuban cigar), but, otherwise, the hardware is really nice.

With the exception of these two hardware usb bugs/features:
- You have to hit the backside reset button to get out of USB mode
- USB will charge the battery but not power the Nuvi 670 (huh?, why not?)
I really like the hardware on the Nuvi 670.

It's the software that gets me emotionally madder and madder and madder at
Garmin every day. It's like that drip drip drip drip of the water faucet.

Donna
Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:55:25 -0500, Bruce. wrote:

> You may find the FAQ list here useful:
> http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/...?TOPIC_ID=57830


Very nice! Thank you!
Donna
Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:39:38 -0500, Bruce. wrote:

> I'm not sure where you bought it, but ErwinComputer has the 670 for $732.
> But no matter, sounds like you've decided to return it. I certainly
> wouldn't keep something that makes you that unhappy.


I bought it at Fryes. $999.99 + CA tax of 8.25% = $82.50 = $1,088.49

If I return it to Fryes, there's a 15% restocking fee.

I'm still debating (mostly because of the restocking fee and because I like
the hardware form factor).

May I presume to ask:

Can I get, for a similar price, a GPS that is about the size of the Garmin
Nuvi 670 that has the following features:
- asks me if I want shortest or quickest route
- works as fast & accurately as the Nuvi 670 did
- is about as big and light as the Nuvi 670 is
- bluetooth
- usb power

If I could get these few things, then I would return the Nuvi 670, take the
15% restocking hit, and not be so irked by Garmin every day (drip, drip,
drip) by the horrid software usability.

Donna
Pegleg

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:42:54 +0300, Donna Davis <ddavis42@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Does this make any sense to you or am I rambling on too much?
>I guess I'm a different buyer ... and I'm guessing that Garmin really
>doesn't want to sell to me. But, every day it gets me more and more ticked
>off that Garmin didn't even test this GPS or if they did, they didn't care
>when someone asked "why is this useless icon not removable?".


Why don't you quit whining and take the unit back? There are other
units/manufacturers available to all. Next time do your due diligence
and research the product before you buy it!
Bruce.

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:wmiwi.654$Oo.197@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
> Do these GPS devices have "shortcut" buttons where you can have an icon on
> the screen which can be programmed to do obscure and complicated things
> (complicated on the Garmin 670 anyway) like asking for either the shortest
> or quickest route?


I think you're asking about macro like functionality, and the answer would
be no.

About the only shortcut I know of is instead of pressing the Back button
several times, you can hold it for a couple of seconds to get you all the
way back to the top menu.

Bruce.


Bruce.

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Driwi.656$Oo.239@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
> This is surprising. If the Garmin Nuvi 670 didn't already have a usb slot,
> I wouldn't ask this - but why - since it has a usb slot, wouldn't the
> Garmin Nuvi 670 just run off the usb slot.


It will run off the USB connector if you use the optional AC adapter which
also uses the USB connector.

But it can not be used as a GPS while cabled to the PC because the software
is in PC mode, this is mass storage device mode. Presumably there are
technical reasons (perhasp processor speed) that it can not do both at the
same time.

> This would be handy for me because I have both a Blackberry and the Garmin
> Nuvi 670. If they both used the same power supply, I'd have less clutter
> in
> my cockpit.


If you use a non-Garmin USB cable, it usually puts the GPS in PC mode, and
so is unusable as a GPS.

> Why would Garmin give the usb cable all the power to charge the Nuvi 670
> but not the power to run it?


Because hooking to your PC disables GPS mode and enables PC mode. The USB
cable has a maximum of 500mA and that probably isn't enough to both charge
the battery and run the GPS at the same time.

Bruce.


Bruce.

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pNiwi.662$Oo.412@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
> May I presume to ask:
>
> Can I get, for a similar price, a GPS that is about the size of the Garmin
> Nuvi 670 that has the following features:
> - asks me if I want shortest or quickest route
> - works as fast & accurately as the Nuvi 670 did
> - is about as big and light as the Nuvi 670 is
> - bluetooth
> - usb power


Perhaps someone else can help you there. When I spent 2 months researching
my purchase, I pretty quickly narrowed my search down to the Garmin Nuvi
models.

Bruce.


Pegleg

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:14:51 +0300, Donna Davis <ddavis42@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>Can I get, for a similar price, a GPS that is about the size of the Garmin
>Nuvi 670 that has the following features:
>- asks me if I want shortest or quickest route
>- works as fast & accurately as the Nuvi 670 did
>- is about as big and light as the Nuvi 670 is
>- bluetooth
>- usb power
>
>If I could get these few things, then I would return the Nuvi 670, take the
>15% restocking hit, and not be so irked by Garmin every day (drip, drip,
>drip) by the horrid software usability.


Research it thoroughly before you buy this time!
Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:04:04 -0700, Andrew Hamilton wrote:
> Are you writing us all these messages while (whilst) on your vacation
> (holiday) in Europe? Which countries?


I was in Israel driving from Jerusalem to Tel-Aviv and Haifa, then to Malta
for a half day layover and then a week in Rome & then drove on the Amalfi
coast and then down to Reggio Calibria over to the Messina Ferry and over
to Panarea for a day, then drove down to Randazzo at the base of Mount Etna
and then drove back to Rome and now I'm back in California.

The maps on the Garmin Nuvi 670 for Israel were pretty bad. They had
absolutely no side roads, and even the major roads were off by a huge
distance. The Garmin Nuvi 670 kept "recalculating" when I was on highway #1
and #2 even though I never left the highway on my way to Jerusalem or Haifa
Same with the trips to the Dead Sea (I drove right through the Dead Sea
apparently). Luckily I floated, I guess.

The Italy maps weren't as bad as Israel. I found the closer I drove on the
mountain of Mount Etna, the worse the intersections seemed to be on the
map. They were off by hundreds of feet by the time I got to Linguaglossa
and Randazzo and Caltanisetta. I just had to guess if it were the one right
behind me, or in front, or the next. Each intersection had a crazy hairpin
turn that, after a while, all looked the same. I had to keep my eye on the
road also as the Italian drivers seem to only have one rule which is to
mean it whatever it is they are doing. If they barge into an intersection,
they mean it (no hesitation whatsoever). Even when they drive on the wrong
side of the road (they don't seem to notice the lines even on the straight
parts of the highways) they do it with gusto. As if they personally own
that opposite lane and only reluctantly give it up only if forced to
against their will.

Anyway, the maps were fine in Italy except for Sicily where almost all the
intersections were off by a few hundred feet. I suspect Garmin used
satellite images which perhaps are severely distorted on steep moutainsides
because the roads in northern Italy were MUCH MORE ACCURATE than those in
Sicily.

In summary, the Garmin Nuvi 670 was usable in Sicily. You just had to guess
if it was talking about the current intersection or the one before or after
a few times a day. The Garmin Nuvi 670 basically wasn't usable in Israel. I
didn't drive in Malta or Panarea so I left the GPS device back at the
hotel.

Donna
Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:17:47 -0700, Pegleg wrote:

> Why don't you quit whining and take the unit back? There are other
> units/manufacturers available to all. Next time do your due diligence
> and research the product before you buy it!


Ouch.
Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:31:58 -0700, Pegleg wrote:

> Research it thoroughly before you buy this time!


Hi there Pegleg,

I read reviews but none of them mentioned the things I care about.

For example, none seem to tell me that you can't choose to route fastest or
quickest on the Garmin Nuvi 670.

None of the reviews I found looking later said that the usb cable didn't
run the unit (they just said it had USB, which is kind'a funny when you
think about it since the usb does different things at different times but
not everything at all times in all GPS devices but it does in some).

So, the reviews, unfortunately, don't tell the story as well as asking
point-blank questions here.

As another example, none of the reviews I found said anything about the
fact the Sicily maps would be worse than the Italy maps, especially on the
mountainsides.

Maybe you have access to a different google?

Are you SURE the reviews tell these things?
Can you point to one that does?

Donna
Unquestionably Confused

2007-08-14, 10:33 am

Donna Davis, wrote the following at or about 8/14/2007 9:47 AM:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:31:58 -0700, Pegleg wrote:
>
>
> Hi there Pegleg,
>
> I read reviews but none of them mentioned the things I care about.
>
> For example, none seem to tell me that you can't choose to route fastest or
> quickest on the Garmin Nuvi 670.
>
> None of the reviews I found looking later said that the usb cable didn't
> run the unit (they just said it had USB, which is kind'a funny when you
> think about it since the usb does different things at different times but
> not everything at all times in all GPS devices but it does in some).
>
> So, the reviews, unfortunately, don't tell the story as well as asking
> point-blank questions here.


Well then, if the reviews don't answer your burning questions, why on
earth did you buy the Nuvi BEFORE getting the answers? The reviews
generally cover the generic features, usability, etc. If you want
specifics you have to a) ask the manufacturer or b) inquire in a group
like this of the specifics. Again, you do this BEFORE you purchase.

So, you see, you didn't research it, you looked for answers which you
didn't receive and then jumped in more or less blindly. Really RESEARCH
an alternative (don't take too long lest you miss your return window for
the Nuvi) and then buy a unit that satisfies you. All the complaining
and whining isn't going to change the fact that Donna Davis and the Nuvi
670 appear to be incompatible.


> As another example, none of the reviews I found said anything about the
> fact the Sicily maps would be worse than the Italy maps, especially on the
> mountainsides.


Again, it's just asinine to think that stuff like this is going to pop
up in a review. Did you even read any reviews in Italian? I have no
freakin' idea if ANY of the maps in Europe or Japan are accurate or not.
I'm here, not there so I probably won't be including that information
in any review I might give of a GPS unit. <g>

This "example" is not unlike expecting to learn that the unit becomes
unreadable due to glare when placed on the center console, just behind
the shift lever on a 1993 Camaro equipped with a sun roof (that is half
open) at 12 noon while traveling north on state highway 15. You want to
know anecdotal information like that, you have to dig like hell to find
it or, better yet, ask the question.

But do it before you buy 'cause you sure aren't going to change the
situation after you buy.


> Maybe you have access to a different google?
>
> Are you SURE the reviews tell these things?
> Can you point to one that does?


Sure can... it's called a logical, common sense analysis of the product.
Darren Dunham

2007-08-14, 12:33 pm

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Donna Davis <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:47:36 -0500, Bruce. wrote:


[color=darkred]
> This is surprising. If the Garmin Nuvi 670 didn't already have a usb slot,
> I wouldn't ask this - but why - since it has a usb slot, wouldn't the
> Garmin Nuvi 670 just run off the usb slot.


100% pure speculation on my part: not enough power.

A "real" usb port is only spec'd to provide 500mA. It's possible that
the power budget of the 670 can't work at that level except in simple
"storage" mode.

But the provided cables guarantee more power is available, so the GPS is
able to run.

> This would be handy for me because I have both a Blackberry and the Garmin
> Nuvi 670. If they both used the same power supply, I'd have less clutter in
> my cockpit.


Yes, but USB power spec is not much for the draw of many devices.

> I drive to customers all over and often I have to hide my electronics. My
> European car has precious little cargo space - actually - almost none in
> the front seat (sometimes I wonder about the Europeans' lifestyle) - so I'm
> always spending minutes hiding all the cables.


> Why would Garmin give the usb cable all the power to charge the Nuvi 670
> but not the power to run it?


Garmin can't increase the power on a normal USB cable.

--
Darren Dunham ddunham@taos.com
Senior Technical Consultant TAOS http://www.taos.com/
Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area
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Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 12:33 pm

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:19:00 GMT, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
> Again, it's just asinine to think that stuff like this is going to pop
> up in a review. Did you even read any reviews in Italian? I have no
> freakin' idea if ANY of the maps in Europe or Japan are accurate or not.
> I'm here, not there so I probably won't be including that information
> in any review I might give of a GPS unit. <g>


The good news is the NEXT person who goes to Sicily who wants to know
whether the Garmin Nuvi 670 has decent maps can find out from reading THIS
thread.

After all, isn't that the whole purpose of the usenet anyway?
Donna Davis

2007-08-14, 12:33 pm

It seems we're almost at the point in any thread where the late-comer
comments are more from the onlookers who didn't have any real answers like
those wonderful replies the original responders had. It seems those who
feel they must absolutely participate are finally kicking in, as if they
wished they had taken that original parking space and now are desperately
trying to squeeze in.

So, I'll back off this thread with a last-post short summary of the answers
so kindly provided by the original responders so that the folks of the
future have foreknowledge of the answers to these 8 Garmin Nuvi questions
and answers.

Q1: How to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?
A1: Choose one of the Text-to-Speech (TTS) voices in the unit.

Q2: How to delete unused (or unneeded) Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop icons?
A2: You can't.

Q3: How to get the Nuvi 670 to ask for shortest or quickest route?
A3: You can't.

Q4: How to change the Garmin Nuvi 670 default simulation speed?
A4: You can't.

Q5: How to change the time Garmin Nuvi 670 timezone & time?
A5: The time is automatic; two ways to change the time zone:
#1 Main Settings:Locale:Chan
ge All
#2 Travel Kit:World Clock:Clock Face

Q6: How to manually accept or reject Nuvi 670 bluetooth connections?
A6: You can't.

Q7: Where is the Nuvi 670 battery charge indicator while on USB power?
A7: There isn't one.

Q8: How to get the Nuvi 670 to show accrued distance and/or time?
A8: You can't.

Q9: Do ANY thousand-dollar GPS devices provide these 8 features?
A9: Probably but nobody knew of any.

Thank you all for the intelligent responses.
Donna
Mr Physics

2007-08-14, 12:33 pm

Donna Davis wrote:

> Q2: How to delete unused (or unneeded) Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop icons?
> A2: You can't.


This is not a 'desktop', so the question is a non-sequitur.
All desktops are GUIs, but not all GUIs are desktops.
This is a simple, icon-driven gui that my father could use, were he alive.

> Q3: How to get the Nuvi 670 to ask for shortest or quickest route?
> A3: You can't.

Actually, you can.
It is in there somewhere as part of the setup.
I know, because I have seen it.
What it does >not< do is prompt you each time the way many other Garmin
units do.
> Q4: How to change the Garmin Nuvi 670 default simulation speed?
> A4: You can't.


Never used the simulation. Don't care.

> Q5: How to change the time Garmin Nuvi 670 timezone & time?
> A5: The time is automatic; two ways to change the time zone:
> #1 Main Settings:Locale:Chan
ge All
> #2 Travel Kit:World Clock:Clock Face


> Q6: How to manually accept or reject Nuvi 670 bluetooth connections?
> A6: You can't.


> Q7: Where is the Nuvi 670 battery charge indicator while on USB power?
> A7: There isn't one.

Just like the laptops I've used.
> Q8: How to get the Nuvi 670 to show accrued distance and/or time?
> A8: You can't.

Yes you can. Use the trip computer page.
> Q9: Do ANY thousand-dollar GPS devices provide these 8 features?
> A9: Probably but nobody knew of any.
>
> Thank you all for the intelligent responses.
> Donna


I use the 660, which I assume is identical except for the mapping. I
find it simple and easy to use, to the extent that I can easily forgive
it the few shortcomings (tracklogs, multipoint routing or TSP) that I miss.
You would be better to blame the poor quality of the maps on the sources
from which they arise. I have no idea where the Italian maps come from
but they don't come from Garmin. (Probably the Italian government
through Navteq, as a guess, and there is probably not much of a business
case for Navteq to improve the data for remote parts of Italy)
FWIW the UK maps are great.
Greg
JG

2007-08-14, 3:33 pm


On 14-Aug-2007, Mr Physics < mrDOTphysicsATrogers
DOTcom> wrote:

> FWIW the UK maps are great.
> Greg


They are good but Garmin treats even single track "C" class roads with the
same weight at "B" roads.
Consequently the routing logic can lead you up the garden path. Simply not
as effective as my TomTom.
The simplistic setup options mean there is no way round this ; even when
deselecting unpaved roads and calling myself a Truck , Garmin puts me in
harms way.

Next month I'll test it out in the States to see if results are better
there.
Edwin Pawlowski

2007-08-14, 10:33 pm


"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> The good news is the NEXT person who goes to Sicily who wants to know
> whether the Garmin Nuvi 670 has decent maps can find out from reading THIS
> thread.
>
> After all, isn't that the whole purpose of the usenet anyway?


While that is good to know, it is a numbers thing. How many people have
actually used a Garmin 670 in Sicily? While in Italy a few months ago, I
drove over 1500 miles and did not see one car using a GPS. Just not enough
people to give solid reviews in some areas. The way the dollar is against
the Euro, I may not go back for a while anyway. Airfare is also double what
I paid in March of this year and last year.


Edwin Pawlowski

2007-08-14, 10:33 pm


"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> I'm never going to buy the additional stuff that Garmin is trying to sell
> me. Never. It's an emotional thing. Not logicial. Just like I never use
> Internet Explorer, I remove the desktop icon with a vengence the minute I
> see it pop up on my desktop.


I'm not buying any of the addons either, but I do use IE. It was free and
works for me.

>
> Here's the problem. I'm an emotional person. Maybe more so than most of
> you
> hard-core GPS gurus.
> It irks me every single time I have to scroll through those useless
> advertising icons. Maybe for you GPS gurus it doesn't bother you, but, as
> for me, every single day, it nags me like the water faucet dripping that
> my
> significant other doesn't fix for me.
>
> I begin to hate the manufacturer who put those totally useless and empty
> icons on my Garmin desktop. It irks me more and more each and every day. I
> begin to hate Garmin, for no other reason than they ruined an otherwise
> perfectly good interface. Every day it irks me more and more and more.
>
> It's a feeling. Not a science. My mind can see no good reason to put
> totally useless (and most of them are purely empty) icons on my desktop
> that I can't use.
>
> Does this make any sense to you or am I rambling on too much?


I understand. I'm just glad we're not married.


SFB

2007-08-15, 4:33 am

OK, so now you had to bring Sicily into the conversation...

so let me set a few things straight...

you stated

"none of the reviews I found said anything about the
fact the Sicily maps would be worse than the Italy maps"

RESPONSE: I have been to Sicily many, many times and I am of Sicilian
descent... and in case you didn't know

SICILY IS A PART OF ITALY..... so when you say Italy maps they include
maps of the Region of Sicily... just like when you say USA maps that
include the state of Texas.... so let's get our geography straight FIRST....

NEXT.... you somehow reach the conclusion that the maps of Sicily are
not very accurate in the mountains of that region... considering that at
some point (about 2-3 weeks ago according to some earlier posts by you)
you bought you NUVI 670 for OVER $300 more than I paid for mine... and
have now traveled to Europe.. through the mountains of Sicily and have
returned home to discuss how your 670 has many shortcomings...

While I have not reviewed all the mountains of Sicily with my 670, I
have checked several mountainous areas in southern Sicily and the Nuvi
maps are at least as good as Michellin maps that I have and a detailed
map book that I have on Sicily... is it PERFECT....???? NO... but then
again my Nuvi thinks I live four doors down the block... but it is
generally very accurate...

Thank you for trying to assemble a list of some Pros/Cons for the 670,
but don't reach conclusions unless you are sure of the facts...

This group helped me BEFORE I purchased my Nuvi 670... and some of the
people who have tried to answer your questions were helpful to me... and
I appreciate their help... as should you!

Enough Said!!!

Ciao and buon fortuna!
SFB

Donna Davis wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:19:00 GMT, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
>
> The good news is the NEXT person who goes to Sicily who wants to know
> whether the Garmin Nuvi 670 has decent maps can find out from reading THIS
> thread.
>
> After all, isn't that the whole purpose of the usenet anyway?

Br40

2007-08-15, 4:33 am

Donna, I have a Tom Tom Go 700 and even though this model won't do all that
you ask the 910 I belive does. I'll answer the questions the best that I can
but these will all pertain to the TomTom not Garmin. ( This way you will
have an idea what a "other brand" GPS does and wount cost you a grand either
:).


Q1: How to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?
A1: Choose one of the Text-to-Speech (TTS) voices in the unit.
TomTom 910 or the 710 does this - speaks street names and shows it on screen

Q2: How to delete unused (or unneeded) Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop icons?
A2: You can't.
TT- Just unselect the POI's that you want to show or not - Simple

Q3: How to get the Nuvi 670 to ask for shortest or quickest route?
A3: You can't.
TT- You can have it ask you each time or set a default - choices are
Fastest, Shortest, Avoid Toll Roads, Walking, Limited Speed and one other
that I can't remember the name of.

Q4: How to change the Garmin Nuvi 670 default simulation speed?
A4: You can't.
TT- default simulation speed is changed with a slide bar from 0% to 400%
off of the touch screen

Q5: How to change the time Garmin Nuvi 670 timezone & time?
A5: The time is automatic; two ways to change the time zone:
#1 Main Settings:Locale:Chan
ge All
#2 Travel Kit:World Clock:Clock Face
TT- Set your time within your menu simple 2 icons and your there

Q6: How to manually accept or reject Nuvi 670 bluetooth connections?
A6: You can't.
TT you can set bluetooth up very simply- If your phone is off it desplays a
unable to connect message- you tap the screen and it won't bother you again

Q7: Where is the Nuvi 670 battery charge indicator while on USB power?
A7: There isn't one.
TT- You find it under the Gps Sat location screen on the right side- a
little small icon, I missed it for a while but it can be found with 1 tap on
the screen ( hit the Signal bar to show Sat screen)

Q8: How to get the Nuvi 670 to show accrued distance and/or time?
A8: You can't.
TT- Can be set to show accrued distance and/or time Plus arrival time and it
can be set to ask you what time you want to arrive and will show in a color
coded timestamp ie: (Red) -4 means your running 4 min late - Yellow is on
Time - Green +3 is your ahead by 3 min

Q9: Do ANY thousand-dollar GPS devices provide these 8 features?
A9: Probably but nobody knew of any.
Yes The TomTom does and maybe more of them do too you just have to ask and
try to test drive one if you can. My friends have asked to borrow mine and
have all bought one themselves once they got to see how they worked. My
father and brother bought the Garmin because they wanted to keep things very
simple. Me I like the Tom Tom because it does do almost all that you asked
and I like how it works. The Garmin was way to simple for me and I did not
care how it routed me at times.



SFB

2007-08-15, 4:33 am

Good replies!!!

The main reason I chose the Garmin 670 over the Tom Tom 910 is that you
can't fit the Tom Tom in a shirt pocket for full portable use around a
big city... the Tom Tom is just way too bulky...

Unfortunately, just as with computers (unless you build your own from
ground up) there are pluses and minuses for all GPS units...

IMHO that is....

SFB

Br40 wrote:
> Donna, I have a Tom Tom Go 700 and even though this model won't do all that
> you ask the 910 I belive does. I'll answer the questions the best that I can
> but these will all pertain to the TomTom not Garmin. ( This way you will
> have an idea what a "other brand" GPS does and wount cost you a grand either
> :).
>
>
> Q1: How to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?
> A1: Choose one of the Text-to-Speech (TTS) voices in the unit.
> TomTom 910 or the 710 does this - speaks street names and shows it on screen
>
> Q2: How to delete unused (or unneeded) Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop icons?
> A2: You can't.
> TT- Just unselect the POI's that you want to show or not - Simple
>
> Q3: How to get the Nuvi 670 to ask for shortest or quickest route?
> A3: You can't.
> TT- You can have it ask you each time or set a default - choices are
> Fastest, Shortest, Avoid Toll Roads, Walking, Limited Speed and one other
> that I can't remember the name of.
>
> Q4: How to change the Garmin Nuvi 670 default simulation speed?
> A4: You can't.
> TT- default simulation speed is changed with a slide bar from 0% to 400%
> off of the touch screen
>
> Q5: How to change the time Garmin Nuvi 670 timezone & time?
> A5: The time is automatic; two ways to change the time zone:
> #1 Main Settings:Locale:Chan
ge All
> #2 Travel Kit:World Clock:Clock Face
> TT- Set your time within your menu simple 2 icons and your there
>
> Q6: How to manually accept or reject Nuvi 670 bluetooth connections?
> A6: You can't.
> TT you can set bluetooth up very simply- If your phone is off it desplays a
> unable to connect message- you tap the screen and it won't bother you again
>
> Q7: Where is the Nuvi 670 battery charge indicator while on USB power?
> A7: There isn't one.
> TT- You find it under the Gps Sat location screen on the right side- a
> little small icon, I missed it for a while but it can be found with 1 tap on
> the screen ( hit the Signal bar to show Sat screen)
>
> Q8: How to get the Nuvi 670 to show accrued distance and/or time?
> A8: You can't.
> TT- Can be set to show accrued distance and/or time Plus arrival time and it
> can be set to ask you what time you want to arrive and will show in a color
> coded timestamp ie: (Red) -4 means your running 4 min late - Yellow is on
> Time - Green +3 is your ahead by 3 min
>
> Q9: Do ANY thousand-dollar GPS devices provide these 8 features?
> A9: Probably but nobody knew of any.
> Yes The TomTom does and maybe more of them do too you just have to ask and
> try to test drive one if you can. My friends have asked to borrow mine and
> have all bought one themselves once they got to see how they worked. My
> father and brother bought the Garmin because they wanted to keep things very
> simple. Me I like the Tom Tom because it does do almost all that you asked
> and I like how it works. The Garmin was way to simple for me and I did not
> care how it routed me at times.
>
>
>

Andrew Hamilton

2007-08-15, 4:33 am

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:29:46 -0500, "Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>"Donna Davis" <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:pNiwi.662$Oo.412@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
>
>Perhaps someone else can help you there. When I spent 2 months researching
>my purchase, I pretty quickly narrowed my search down to the Garmin Nuvi
>models.
>
>Bruce.


Bruce, Why did you narrow your search down to a Nuvi model?

I'm also seriously considering a Garmin Nuvi, and I too am looking at
the different prices/features.


-AH
Flydive

2007-08-15, 7:33 am

Donna Davis wrote:

>
> I was in Israel driving from Jerusalem to Tel-Aviv and Haifa, then to Malta
> for a half day layover and then a week in Rome & then drove on the Amalfi
> coast and then down to Reggio Calibria over to the Messina Ferry and over
> to Panarea for a day, then drove down to Randazzo at the base of Mount Etna
> and then drove back to Rome and now I'm back in California.
>


> Donna


I wonder why Israel doesn't provide accurate and detailed maps..... ;-)
Bruce.

2007-08-15, 7:33 am

"Andrew Hamilton" < Ahamilton90900@yahoo
.com> wrote in message
news:a555c3png27mvqu
29f2q7okaordterthr7@
4ax.com...
> I'm also seriously considering a Garmin Nuvi, and I too am looking at
> the different prices/features.


One of the factors was battery life. The Nuvis last several times some of
the TomTom models I was considering. Also the size, form factor, and
features, and was already a Garmin customer with my old eMap. And another
thing that helped, I was able to find videos of people using their Nuvis on
YouTube. Reading a manual is fine but watching someone use it gave me a lot
of confidence it would serve me well.

Bruce.


Barbara

2007-08-15, 10:33 am

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:17:19 UTC, Donna Davis <ddavis42@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
> This street annunciation on the Garmin Nuvi 670 is now no problem as your
> answer is intuitive once I already know the answer. :)


I found it intuitive to look at the Owner's Manual. P. 46:

"Languages noted with (TTS) are text-t0-speach voices, which have an
extensive vocabulary and pronounce the street names as you approach
turns."


--
Barbara

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Pegleg

2007-08-15, 10:33 am

On 14 Aug 2007 23:31:04 GMT, "Barbara" <bcallen@nospam.attglobal.net>
wrote:

>I found it intuitive to look at the Owner's Manual.


What a novel idea!
Dan Anderson

2007-08-15, 12:33 pm

Donna Davis wrote:
> Here's the problem. I'm an emotional person. Maybe more so than most of you
> hard-core GPS gurus. I'll bet more and more emotional people are buying GPS
> nowadays, as compared to the rocket scientists of the past.


I'd characterize myself more as a rational/logical type with a
science major and software engineering employment. If I were
the programmer, the empty icons might only be there because
the project manager told me to put them there but it could
depend on what other restrictions I might be working under.

& #91;snip]
> It's a feeling. Not a science. My mind can see no good reason to put
> totally useless (and most of them are purely empty) icons on my desktop
> that I can't use.


It's possible that the icons are there because they are, in
essence, a fixed menu to access the types of objects they
represent (I don't have a Nuvi and haven't played with one).
The simple programming is to just put them there. It takes
some more programming to check to see if any "Travel Guides"
are installed and, if so, add the "Travel Guides" icon.

Instead of comparing it to adding/removing icons in a
Windows desktop, it could be more like menus in a Windows
program. You generally have no control over the
menus in Windows programs. That is the menus are generally
fixed. A menu that has no meaning in the current context
is grayed out. You usually can't delete an entry.

>
> Does this make any sense to you or am I rambling on too much?
> I guess I'm a different buyer ... and I'm guessing that Garmin really
> doesn't want to sell to me. But, every day it gets me more and more ticked
> off that Garmin didn't even test this GPS or if they did, they didn't care
> when someone asked "why is this useless icon not removable?".


It's similar to the supermarket that puts some staples at one
end of the store and others at the other end of the store
so you have to walk past all the other stuff you probably
aren't interested in. Then they'll tell you it's for your
convenience.

Every so often they'll shuffle the products to break
your shopping patterns and force you to search for
what you want and used to know where to find it.
They'll put up a sign saying they are remodeling
for your convenience. I've been tempted to put
another sign over their sign with my thoughts about
their remodeling.

Marketing is generally aimed at the emotions (It's
generally a bad way to get me to buy something.)
I've heard a number of people say they "love" their
Nuvi so Garmin has succeeded in part on the
emotional purchase but apparently has missed
the boat in some areas (such as not being able to
delete the empty icons) because you don't want
to go so far as to make your customers angry.
I.E. the supermarket better not reshuffle the
shelves too often and maybe Garmin needs to
add the ability to remove unused icons.

--
Dan
(email change 2001 to 2004)
(www.gpsmap.net)
Oliver Costich

2007-08-15, 10:33 pm

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:47:52 GMT, Donna Davis <ddavis42@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:31:58 -0700, Pegleg wrote:
>
>
>Hi there Pegleg,
>
>I read reviews but none of them mentioned the things I care about.


Maybe you should have stopped here first.

All of the current GPS crop is flawed, but they are what they are.

>
>For example, none seem to tell me that you can't choose to route fastest or
>quickest on the Garmin Nuvi 670.


My nuvi 350 lets me choose fastest or shortest. I don't think anything
out there will do everythingyou want. The coice is buy the closest
thing or do without.

>
>None of the reviews I found looking later said that the usb cable didn't
>run the unit (they just said it had USB, which is kind'a funny when you
>think about it since the usb does different things at different times but
>not everything at all times in all GPS devices but it does in some).
>
>So, the reviews, unfortunately, don't tell the story as well as asking
>point-blank questions here.
>
>As another example, none of the reviews I found said anything about the
>fact the Sicily maps would be worse than the Italy maps, especially on the
>mountainsides.
>
>Maybe you have access to a different google?
>
>Are you SURE the reviews tell these things?
>Can you point to one that does?
>
>Donna


Oliver Costich

2007-08-15, 10:33 pm

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 09:51:53 +0000, Flydive <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>Donna Davis wrote:
>
>
>
>I wonder why Israel doesn't provide accurate and detailed maps..... ;-)


It's expensive to make good maps. You need to have a market to pay for
it.
Flydive

2007-08-15, 10:33 pm

Oliver Costich wrote:

>
> It's expensive to make good maps. You need to have a market to pay for
> it.


Well, I guess that in the case of Israel there more behind it than
market size.
Pegleg

2007-08-15, 10:33 pm

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:10:36 -0400, Oliver Costich
< ocostich@NOSPAMcomca
st.net> wrote:


>
>It's expensive to make good maps. You need to have a market to pay for
>it.

Plus when the roads are being blown up and re-routed all the time how
the hell could they keep the updates updated?
Dale DePriest

2007-08-16, 10:33 am

Your speculation is correct. This device needs way more power than that
offered by a USB port to run properly.

Dale

Darren Dunham wrote:
> In sci.geo.satellite-nav Donna Davis <ddavis42@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 100% pure speculation on my part: not enough power.
>
> A "real" usb port is only spec'd to provide 500mA. It's possible that
> the power budget of the 670 can't work at that level except in simple
> "storage" mode.
>
> But the provided cables guarantee more power is available, so the GPS is
> able to run.
>
>
> Yes, but USB power spec is not much for the draw of many devices.
>
>
>
> Garmin can't increase the power on a normal USB cable.
>


--
_ _ Dale DePriest
/`) _ // http://users.cwnet.com/dalede
o/_/ (_(_X_(` For GPS and GPS/PDAs
Dale DePriest

2007-08-16, 3:33 pm



Br40 wrote:
> Donna, I have a Tom Tom Go 700 and even though this model won't do all that
> you ask the 910 I belive does. I'll answer the questions the best that I can
> but these will all pertain to the TomTom not Garmin. ( This way you will
> have an idea what a "other brand" GPS does and wount cost you a grand either
> :).
>
>
> Q1: How to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?
> A1: Choose one of the Text-to-Speech (TTS) voices in the unit.
> TomTom 910 or the 710 does this - speaks street names and shows it on screen
>
> Q2: How to delete unused (or unneeded) Garmin Nuvi 670 desktop icons?
> A2: You can't.
> TT- Just unselect the POI's that you want to show or not - Simple


She wasn't talking about POI's. Setting POI's is simple on the Garmin also.
>


--
_ _ Dale DePriest
/`) _ // http://users.cwnet.com/dalede
o/_/ (_(_X_(` For GPS and GPS/PDAs
SFB

2007-08-16, 10:33 pm

Actually it isn't that bad for walking around a tourist city either...
or finding your way back to a parked car (that you marked as a favorite
or HOME) in a strange city....

SFB

Pegleg wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:34:39 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>
> Why would want GPS on a train where you have absolutely no control over
> your route/speed/stops/etc?
>
> The Nuvi is for road vehicle use. Pick another product!

SFB

2007-08-16, 10:33 pm

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article < YradnbJ688btflnbnZ2d
nUVZ_t_inZ2d@comcast
.com>,
> SFB <news@spenceburton.comNOSPAM> wrote:
>
>
> Right--essentially walking on main, known roads. That's really no
> different than driving on the same roads.
>
> Now take your Nuvi into the woods, hunting. Is it a crap product? No,
> it's still the great product it was. But it's NOT meant for taking into
> the woods with you as you hunt. Garmin offers different products for
> that.
>
> People see "GPS" and they assume they're all the same thing, universal
> for all purposes. No, they're not.
>


So you're saying that our VP, Dick Cheney, uses a Garmin Nuvi when he
goes hunting? :)

SFB
Phil

2007-08-19, 10:33 am

Donna Davis <ddavis42@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> What am I doing which turns OFF Garmin Nuvi 670 street name enunciation?
> What can I do to turn Garmin Nuvi 670 street name articulation back ON?
>

Hi Donna
In my experience street name pronounciation is just irritating as it just
pronounces the name litterally and not as they should sound.

Even in England it gets so much wrong, without even starting on Welsh, French
or Flemish street names.

Also knowing the name of the street, other than your destination, is irrelavent
and is likely to lead to information overload. I cannot see how it will help,
all you need is to be told to go straight ahead, turn left or right.

Phil
--
There are 10 types of people in the world, those that understand binary
and those that don't.
Edwin Pawlowski

2007-08-19, 10:33 am


"Phil" <pj@thecork.trig222.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
> Also knowing the name of the street, other than your destination, is
> irrelavent
> and is likely to lead to information overload. I cannot see how it will
> help,
> all you need is to be told to go straight ahead, turn left or right.
>


Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

First, some street names are now how we know them. I travel Route 16 in MA
for some distance and it changes names in each town. When the Nuvi first
told me to turn onto Webster Street, I was a bit surprised as I just wanted
to stay on Rt 16. My regular journey along the road has five names for the
same route.

I've seen a few times when a glace at the map on the screen and the road
ahead could be a bit confusing as there may be a few streets, close together
that are on the right or with branches from one or more of them near the
turn. Having the name ahead of time helps decipher the situation. At a
simple intersection, yes, you are correct. I'd rather discard extra
information rather than not have enough.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/


Owen McKenzie

2007-08-19, 3:33 pm

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
> First, some street names are now how we know them. I travel Route 16
> in MA for some distance and it changes names in each town. When the
> Nuvi first told me to turn onto Webster Street, I was a bit surprised
> as I just wanted to stay on Rt 16. My regular journey along the road
> has five names for the same route.
>


That is one of my major complaints with my GPS. When I set a destination, I
try to check the routing suggested against my computer software, both S&T &
StreetAtlas. However they don't usually have the street names, only the
route numbers.

Recently it routed me right through downtown Madison, WI, pulling my 36'
fifth wheel trailer! If it would have shown route numbers instead of street
names, I could have avoided that route.

--
Owen McKenzie

Very funny Scotty, now beam up my clothes.


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