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| Hello all,
I am in the market for a handheld GPS unit.
I checked around and some do not have maps and some do.
I would like a unit with maps and audio.
I am really looking for a unit that I can use with my kids to go hiking,
boating, fishing, etc... also geocaching.
Price does play into question...
Thanks for your help.
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Dave
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| Jack Erbes 2008-02-12, 10:33 am |
| Xanth wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am in the market for a handheld GPS unit.
> I checked around and some do not have maps and some do.
> I would like a unit with maps and audio.
There is no such thing as a handheld with audio (other than making a few
simple beeps and squawks for warning tones). Give up on that wanting
that, it is never going to happen.
For the Garmins, the ones that do not come with maps should have a base
map of major roads and some geographical features. On the GPSMAP models
like the 60/76 Cx and CSx you can autoroute on the base map roads. They
will get you to any city and most towns in North American with full
autorouting and automatic route recalculation. But you will not have
full street level details.
Garmin sells several different kinds of supplemental mapping (the
MapSource products) that let you add more detailed mapping (street &
highway, topo, marine, etc.). Those are optional purchases and run
about $100-$120 each at the best "street" prices.
> I am really looking for a unit that I can use with my kids to go hiking,
> boating, fishing, etc... also geocaching.
Then you want a handheld like the 60Cx, 60CSx, 76Cx, or 76CSx. Those
models all have nearly identical software and features, they are
slightly different in the shape of the case and some minor details. The
CSx model have a built in electronic compass and barometer, the Cx
models do not have that.
> Price does play into question...
In that case buy a dash mount model for the car. That will give you the
spoken directions there and also a larger display.
Don't be surprised if you find that your state of the art, dash mounted,
nuvi turns out to be a little dumber than your 60/76 handheld. And the
latter will ave more navigation-related features and better receiving
sensitivity too.
The Garmin GPSMAP "x" series handhelds are the most versatile receivers
on the market in my opinion.
Jack
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| Evan Platt 2008-02-12, 10:33 am |
| On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:41:13 -0500, Jack Erbes
< jackerbes@roadrunner
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>There is no such thing as a handheld with audio (other than making a few
>simple beeps and squawks for warning tones). Give up on that wanting
>that, it is never going to happen.
So what is my TomTom One XL then?
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| Jack Erbes 2008-02-12, 12:33 pm |
| Evan Platt wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:41:13 -0500, Jack Erbes
> < jackerbes@roadrunner
.com> wrote:
>
>
> So what is my TomTom One XL then?
Tom Tom has it listed at a car navigation product:
http://www.tomtom.com/products/prod...ategory=0&Lid=4
The term "a handheld" (implying a handheld GPS receiver) as it is used
here and as I used it, is for the units that are intended primarily to
be used handheld. These are waterproof, ruggedized, battery powered and
capable of running for long periods of times on simple power sources
like two AA cells.
I feel a little silly for having to say that but it seem important to
explaining this. Are starting to see the difference now?
What you have is a car navigation unit (often referred to as a "dash
mounted" GPS receiver) that you can hold in your hand. But at that
point in time, you do not have a handheld GPS receiver, you have a GPS
receiver you are holding in your hand.
Jack
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| T Shadow 2008-02-12, 10:33 pm |
| "Jack Erbes" < jackerbes@roadrunner
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> Evan Platt wrote:
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> Tom Tom has it listed at a car navigation product:
>
> http://www.tomtom.com/products/prod...ategory=0&Lid=4
>
> The term "a handheld" (implying a handheld GPS receiver) as it is used
> here and as I used it, is for the units that are intended primarily to
> be used handheld. These are waterproof, ruggedized, battery powered and
> capable of running for long periods of times on simple power sources
> like two AA cells.
>
> I feel a little silly for having to say that but it seem important to
> explaining this. Are starting to see the difference now?
>
> What you have is a car navigation unit (often referred to as a "dash
> mounted" GPS receiver) that you can hold in your hand. But at that
> point in time, you do not have a handheld GPS receiver, you have a GPS
> receiver you are holding in your hand.
>
> Jack
Seems in Tom Tom context portable is compared to in-dash. IOW multiple
vehicle usage. Hand held in this thread is referring to something you'd use
on a trail. At least that was my take.
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"T Shadow" <blackhole@nowhere.void.com> wrote
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> Seems in Tom Tom context portable is compared to in-dash. IOW multiple
vehicle usage.
>
I agree, the GARMIN's Nüvis series are also portable units but not handheld
units.
Handheld units are designed to be easely manipulate and setup with only one
hand. They have ergonomic buttons, and generally no touch screen. Portable
units are like PDA units; you need your two hands : one to hold it and one
to touch the screen with a finger or a stylet.
True handheld device generaly provide a lanyard or more sophisticated
carabiner clip to secure it. Securing a hundred dollars costly unit from
intempestive falls, as well as from rain or dust is samething to take into
account for outdoor activities.
I will be very interrested to see how is a TomTom (or a Nüvi) going after a
one or two days trecking in winter (or spring) mountain park condition ?
C.Ret
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| Bob L 2008-02-13, 12:33 pm |
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> "T Shadow" <blackhole@nowhere.void.com> wrote
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> vehicle usage.
>
> I agree, the GARMIN's Nüvis series are also portable units but not
> handheld
> units.
>
> Handheld units are designed to be easely manipulate and setup with only
> one
> hand. They have ergonomic buttons, and generally no touch screen. Portable
> units are like PDA units; you need your two hands : one to hold it and one
> to touch the screen with a finger or a stylet.
>
> True handheld device generaly provide a lanyard or more sophisticated
> carabiner clip to secure it. Securing a hundred dollars costly unit from
> intempestive falls, as well as from rain or dust is samething to take into
> account for outdoor activities.
>
> I will be very interrested to see how is a TomTom (or a Nüvi) going after
> a
> one or two days trecking in winter (or spring) mountain park condition ?
>
> C.Ret
>
Garmin's Quest/Quest2. Pocket size, rugged, waterproof, on-road / off-road
navigation features, voice prompting, and includes detailed City Navigator
maps. The Quest can be had for $270 and will hold several states worth of
maps at once.
Magellan's Crossover with similar features is also worth a close look though
considerably larger.
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| ben brugman 2008-02-14, 3:33 pm |
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"Xanth" <xanth@att.net> schreef in bericht
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> Hello all,
>
> I am in the market for a handheld GPS unit.
> I checked around and some do not have maps and some do.
> I would like a unit with maps and audio.
>
> I am really looking for a unit that I can use with my kids to go hiking,
> boating, fishing, etc... also geocaching.
>
> Price does play into question...
>
> Thanks for your help.
> --
> Dave
Maps for handheld units are expensive.
Because of the lack of audio and the lack of a large screen, handhelds are
less suetable for autorouting tasks.
So you might want to consider buying two. A cheap autonavigating
for in the car and a not to expensive handheld for the hiking, boating etc.
The price of the two might be less than the price of a color large memory
handheld unit. (Which is still only limited suetable for autorouting).
I use a cheap car navigating system and a medium handheld. Together they
cost less than a expensive color handheld and offer more functionality.
ben
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"ben brugman" <ben@niethier.nl> was right wroting in
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> So you might want to consider buying two. A cheap autonavigating
> for in the car and a not to expensive handheld for the hiking, boating
etc.
>
Ben is right !
Large color screen or detail map in the unit is a lost of autonomy for
handheld.
No voice prompt or road color map is a lost of efficiency or security for
automotive navigation system.
Having two dedicated units is certainly more convenient. I also use handheld
GPS for outdoor activities and a StreetPilot for private and professional
desplacements. The two units are GARMIN, so they can easely share Waypoints
for any professional or personal favorite places. Some time they also share
maps.
This solution is cost efficient, maps are shared with no extra cost (the
supplementary license was ask to GARMIN customer care team at time two
licenses were allowed for each map product !). And most of the accessories
are commun (cable, crate, software, external antenna, ... ).
C.Ret
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| Bob L 2008-02-15, 10:33 pm |
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"CRet" <c.ret@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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> "ben brugman" <ben@niethier.nl> was right wroting in
> news:9a0ea$47b495ed$
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> etc.
>
> Ben is right !
>
> Large color screen or detail map in the unit is a lost of autonomy for
> handheld.
> No voice prompt or road color map is a lost of efficiency or security for
> automotive navigation system.
>
> Having two dedicated units is certainly more convenient. I also use
> handheld
> GPS for outdoor activities and a StreetPilot for private and professional
> desplacements. The two units are GARMIN, so they can easely share
> Waypoints
> for any professional or personal favorite places. Some time they also
> share
> maps.
>
> This solution is cost efficient, maps are shared with no extra cost (the
> supplementary license was ask to GARMIN customer care team at time two
> licenses were allowed for each map product !). And most of the accessories
> are commun (cable, crate, software, external antenna, ... ).
>
> C.Ret
>
>
I believe Garmin ended the two map unlocks per license deal last year. If
you have an older version there should still be a second unlock.
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