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Can I do these things with Mapsource?
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| I just got back from the Southwest US where my 76CS was put to use in saving
tracks and waypoints for later overlay on to the Mapsource TOPO program on
my PC. Given that we were out in the field the whole time (we covered about
1000 miles in three days) I had to save all the tracks and waypoints before
I could get back to my machine.
Interesting thing I learned: while the 76CS can store up to 10,000
"breadcrumbs" in its tracking capability, you can only get all of those if
you download that track to the Mapsource program while the track is still
live. Once you save the track it will downsample to a maximum of the 500
most representative track points ("breadcrumbs") for each saved track. I'm
sure everyone else already knows this, so I guess it's just an observation
from a noob. Anyway, back to the story...
So I get back to my room and download to Mapsource. I can't figure out how
to do something. What I'd like to do is be able to "turn on" or "off"
selected tracks and waypoints so that I only see what I want to show as
important for a given part of a day. I'm hoping this isn't going to be
tedious.
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| Tom H. 2005-10-22, 11:48 pm |
| Tony,
To the best of my knowledge there is no way to selectively turn on/off
certain waypoints or tracks using Mapsource. The best you can do with that
software is to open more than one instance of Mapsource and copy some of the
data to other mapsource files and then switch between files.
Regarding saving your tracks: I find it convenient to record tracks at a set
time interval. For example with the tracklog set to record a point every 20
seconds, the 10,000 point tracklog will take about 55.5 hours to fill. For
a three day trip that should be enough to record all of your movements as
long as you take some time to sleep. If not sleeping, then set the interval
to 30 seconds, and you will get 83.33 hours of recording.
Tom
"Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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>I just got back from the Southwest US where my 76CS was put to use in
>saving tracks and waypoints for later overlay on to the Mapsource TOPO
>program on my PC. Given that we were out in the field the whole time (we
>covered about 1000 miles in three days) I had to save all the tracks and
>waypoints before I could get back to my machine.
>
> Interesting thing I learned: while the 76CS can store up to 10,000
> "breadcrumbs" in its tracking capability, you can only get all of those if
> you download that track to the Mapsource program while the track is still
> live. Once you save the track it will downsample to a maximum of the 500
> most representative track points ("breadcrumbs") for each saved track. I'm
> sure everyone else already knows this, so I guess it's just an observation
> from a noob. Anyway, back to the story...
>
> So I get back to my room and download to Mapsource. I can't figure out how
> to do something. What I'd like to do is be able to "turn on" or "off"
> selected tracks and waypoints so that I only see what I want to show as
> important for a given part of a day. I'm hoping this isn't going to be
> tedious.
>
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| Tom, can you explain how to copy data from one instance to another?
"Tom H." <tom_reader@att.nospam*.net> wrote in message
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> Tony,
> To the best of my knowledge there is no way to selectively turn on/off
> certain waypoints or tracks using Mapsource. The best you can do with
> that software is to open more than one instance of Mapsource and copy some
> of the data to other mapsource files and then switch between files.
>
> Regarding saving your tracks: I find it convenient to record tracks at a
> set time interval. For example with the tracklog set to record a point
> every 20 seconds, the 10,000 point tracklog will take about 55.5 hours to
> fill. For a three day trip that should be enough to record all of your
> movements as long as you take some time to sleep. If not sleeping, then
> set the interval to 30 seconds, and you will get 83.33 hours of recording.
>
> Tom
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> "Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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| Tom H. 2005-10-23, 5:48 pm |
| Tony,
For waypoints: select the waypoint tab in the left pane of the Mapsource
window and select the waypoints you want by control-click or shift-click,
then copy, go to the other instance of Mapsource and paste. With track logs
you do the same thing, but select the logs under the tracks tab. To copy
just part of a track, double click on the log of interest, click and
shift-click to select the portion of interest, go to the other instance of
Mapsource, then <edit: new track>, and paste into that track.
Tom
"Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> Tom, can you explain how to copy data from one instance to another?
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> "Tom H." <tom_reader@att.nospam*.net> wrote in message
> news:xmA6f.168721$qY1.129654@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
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| Thanks for this info, Tom. I started playing around and found another way to
get essentially the same result. As I saved off one gdb file that has
everything in it, I used that as a "master" and just deleted whatever bits I
didn't want to show for a given track/set of waypoints. I then saved that
off as a new gdb. I went back to the master each time to generate all the
views that I was interested in showing. Seemed to work okay.
"Tom H." <tom_reader@att.nospam*.net> wrote in message
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> Tony,
> For waypoints: select the waypoint tab in the left pane of the Mapsource
> window and select the waypoints you want by control-click or shift-click,
> then copy, go to the other instance of Mapsource and paste. With track
> logs you do the same thing, but select the logs under the tracks tab. To
> copy just part of a track, double click on the log of interest, click and
> shift-click to select the portion of interest, go to the other instance of
> Mapsource, then <edit: new track>, and paste into that track.
>
> Tom
> "Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:-LadnZazKIpNm8beRVn-sA@comcast.com...
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| Tom H. 2005-10-23, 11:48 pm |
| Tony,
Yes, what you describe is another good way to do what you want. Also for
some situations you may be able to use the selection method to have some
data shown in one color and the rest in another. How well that will work
depends on exactly what your intentions are and how dense the data is.
Tom
"Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for this info, Tom. I started playing around and found another way
> to get essentially the same result. As I saved off one gdb file that has
> everything in it, I used that as a "master" and just deleted whatever bits
> I didn't want to show for a given track/set of waypoints. I then saved
> that off as a new gdb. I went back to the master each time to generate all
> the views that I was interested in showing. Seemed to work okay.
>
> "Tom H." <tom_reader@att.nospam*.net> wrote in message
> news:0LN6f.486159$5N3.757@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
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| Chull 2005-10-23, 11:48 pm |
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I thought that it looked like that - But I uploaded to Google's Earth, and I
had Only a saved Track, all else deleted. Google should it with something
like 4680 points. (Not that I yet understand what on earth Google Earth Plus
is doing!!)
Is it true that it is only the 500 points it says it is?
There is So much info saved, and yet so little used.
Thanks
> Once you save the track it will downsample to a maximum of the 500 most
> representative track points ("breadcrumbs") for each saved track. I'm sure
> everyone else already knows this, so I guess it's just an observation from
> a noob.
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| Chull, how did you upload to Google Earth? I thought the Garmin units could
only upload to Mapsource.
"Chull" <chull001@rochester.rr.Not Needed.com> wrote in message
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> I thought that it looked like that - But I uploaded to Google's Earth, and
> I had Only a saved Track, all else deleted. Google should it with
> something like 4680 points. (Not that I yet understand what on earth
> Google Earth Plus is doing!!)
> Is it true that it is only the 500 points it says it is?
> There is So much info saved, and yet so little used.
> Thanks
>
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| Chull 2005-10-24, 11:48 pm |
| Well - you need $20, payable to Google, to get Google Earth Plus; then it is
pretty simple.
"Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> Chull, how did you upload to Google Earth? I thought the Garmin units
> could only upload to Mapsource.
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| Tom H. 2005-10-24, 11:48 pm |
| Tony,
Garmin units can exchange a lot of data (including waypoints, routes and
tracks) with any software that understands the Garmin data transfer
protocol. Almost any gps software available today for consumer gps units
can do that. The limitation is on maps. Only Garmin's maps can be uploaded
to Garmin mapping gps units. (Well, there is a hack available that allows
you to make your own maps that Mapsource can upload, but from what I have
heard it is a very time consuming project.)
There is even some good freeware available to do data transfer.
For data saving and editing I recommend g7toWin from
http://www.gpsinformation.org/ronh/g7towin.htm
For graphical display (including any map you can get into .gif or .jpg
format) try GPS TrackMaker, available at http://www.gpstm.com/
There is much more both free and commercial software but these two have been
useful for me.
Also, if you are in the U.S., USA photomaps is free (I think the author
requests a donation if you use it a lot) and allows you to overlay gps data
on topos and aerial photos that it downloads seamlessly from the internet.
For all kinds of general and specific GPS info go to
http://gpsinformation.net/
Tom
"Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> Chull, how did you upload to Google Earth? I thought the Garmin units
> could only upload to Mapsource.
>
> "Chull" <chull001@rochester.rr.Not Needed.com> wrote in message
> news:3QW6f.11844$Bv6.10241@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
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| Thanks for the clarification, Tom. I just looked at MS S&T and sure enough
it has a GPS interface. It only seems to work if the GPS is connected via a
serial port and it's set up for NEMA formatted data. I suppose that's the
case for most of these programs.
Amusingly, I also use USA Photomaps at work but never bothered to check its
ability to interface with anything. I'm just an idiot. :)
I will have to do quite of bit of reading on the gpsinformation web site.
"Tom H." <tom_reader@att.nospam*.net> wrote in message
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> Tony,
> Garmin units can exchange a lot of data (including waypoints, routes and
> tracks) with any software that understands the Garmin data transfer
> protocol. Almost any gps software available today for consumer gps units
> can do that. The limitation is on maps. Only Garmin's maps can be
> uploaded to Garmin mapping gps units. (Well, there is a hack available
> that allows you to make your own maps that Mapsource can upload, but from
> what I have heard it is a very time consuming project.)
>
> There is even some good freeware available to do data transfer.
> For data saving and editing I recommend g7toWin from
> http://www.gpsinformation.org/ronh/g7towin.htm
>
> For graphical display (including any map you can get into .gif or .jpg
> format) try GPS TrackMaker, available at http://www.gpstm.com/
>
> There is much more both free and commercial software but these two have
> been useful for me.
>
> Also, if you are in the U.S., USA photomaps is free (I think the author
> requests a donation if you use it a lot) and allows you to overlay gps
> data on topos and aerial photos that it downloads seamlessly from the
> internet.
>
> For all kinds of general and specific GPS info go to
> http://gpsinformation.net/
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> "Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:YO2dnVhKqaSXyMD
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| Chull 2005-10-24, 11:48 pm |
| Google Earth Plus will take the uploads from my 76CS USB conection... Looks
like allot can be done with XML and HTML - but that in it's self is a but of
work.
>It only seems to work if the GPS is connected via a serial port and it's
>set up for NEMA formatted data. I suppose that's the case for most of these
>programs.
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| Tom H. 2005-10-25, 2:48 am |
| Tony,
Both g7toWin and GPS TrackMaker have check boxes in the communications
settings for USB, so they appear to be a little more up to date than MS S&T.
All of my gps receivers do only serial port connections, so I am not really
familiar with using the USB port for GPS interface.
Tom
"Tony" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the clarification, Tom. I just looked at MS S&T and sure enough
> it has a GPS interface. It only seems to work if the GPS is connected via
> a serial port and it's set up for NEMA formatted data. I suppose that's
> the case for most of these programs.
>
> Amusingly, I also use USA Photomaps at work but never bothered to check
> its ability to interface with anything. I'm just an idiot. :)
>
> I will have to do quite of bit of reading on the gpsinformation web site.
>
> "Tom H." <tom_reader@att.nospam*.net> wrote in message
> news:XVd7f.175079$qY1.43326@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
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