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freakybubba@gmail.com

2006-01-02, 5:50 pm

Anyone use a hand-held GPS with a TOPO map while skiing?

Garmin has a TOPO map of the US, but it's only 1:100,000 scale. Their
National Park TOPO map (which is 1:24,000 scale) looks great, but it
doesn't cover any ski areas (i.e. Mammoth Mountain). Is the US TOPO map
useful for skiing at 1:100,000 scale or is there not enough detail?

~J.

Fred Hiltz

2006-01-02, 5:50 pm

freakybubba@gmail.com wrote:
> Anyone use a hand-held GPS with a TOPO map while skiing?
>
> Garmin has a TOPO map of the US, but it's only 1:100,000
> scale. Their National Park TOPO map (which is 1:24,000
> scale) looks great, but it doesn't cover any ski areas
> (i.e. Mammoth Mountain). Is the US TOPO map useful for
> skiing at 1:100,000 scale or is there not enough detail?


I use US Topo a lot while back country skiing and find it completely
adequate for locating the ridges, saddles, brooks, etc. Just once
since starting in 1999 have I wished for the extra detail of the
1:24,000 maps, when we were headed for some small ponds that do not
show on the 1:100,000 maps. We transferred coordinates from the
paper map.

Of course there are no ski trails on either series and the few
hiking trails on the 1:24,000 series are twenty or more years out of
date and not to be trusted. You will soon accumulate a nice library
of tracks to substitute.
--
Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com


Phil Wheeler

2006-01-02, 5:50 pm

freakybubba@gmail.com wrote:
> Anyone use a hand-held GPS with a TOPO map while skiing?
>
> Garmin has a TOPO map of the US, but it's only 1:100,000 scale. Their
> National Park TOPO map (which is 1:24,000 scale) looks great, but it
> doesn't cover any ski areas (i.e. Mammoth Mountain).


There's always Badger Pass in Yosemite :-)

I think Topo US would be very useful for x/c skiing, but not downhill
(but then seems downhill would not take a whole lot of nav unless you
got way off course).

Phil
Phil Wheeler

2006-01-02, 5:50 pm

Fred Hiltz wrote:
>
> Of course there are no ski trails on either series and the few
> hiking trails on the 1:24,000 series are twenty or more years out of
> date ...


True of the paper maps to be sure. But I have found in a number of
California locations that the hiking trails in the Garmin 24K Topo West
maps are more current (re-routed trails updated) and complete (more
trails shown) than in the equivalent and latest USGS 7.5' topos.

Phil
Fred Hiltz

2006-01-02, 5:50 pm

Phil Wheeler wrote:
> Fred Hiltz wrote:
>
> True of the paper maps to be sure. But I have found in a
> number of California locations that the hiking trails in
> the Garmin 24K Topo West maps are more current (re-routed
> trails updated) and complete (more trails shown) than in
> the equivalent and latest USGS 7.5' topos.


That is interesting and very good news. Out of curiosity, does
anything that comes with the product say anything about who provides
the updates? I'd be surprised and pleased if it were USGS.

Now I'm off to look for some of my favorite trails on Garmin's map
viewer!
--
Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com


Phil Wheeler

2006-01-02, 11:48 pm

Fred Hiltz wrote:
> Phil Wheeler wrote:
>
>
>
> That is interesting and very good news. Out of curiosity, does
> anything that comes with the product say anything about who provides
> the updates? I'd be surprised and pleased if it were USGS.
>


It does not. In most cases, I've only found this in the field while hiking.
richo@mcn.org

2006-01-02, 11:48 pm

You might want to check out these maps of ski resorts for Garmin
receivers...
http://gpstracklog.typepad.com/gps_...ranger_ski.html

Rich Owings
http://www.MakeYourOwnMaps.com/
http://GPStracklog.typepad.com

"We were desert mystics, my friends and I, poring over our maps as
others do their holy books." - Edward Abbey

freakybubba@gmail.com

2006-01-15, 5:48 pm

I found a company that makes maps of most of the major ski resorts in
the western US. This is exactly what I was looking for!

http://www.mountaindynamics.com

~J.

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-15, 5:48 pm

freakybubba@gmail.com wrote:
> I found a company that makes maps of most of the major ski resorts in
> the western US. This is exactly what I was looking for!
>
> http://www.mountaindynamics.com
>
>



Neat! And they show the ski runs, too .. handy for downhill.
Seagull

2006-01-15, 11:48 pm

In alt.satellite.gps.garmin Phil Wheeler <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I think Topo US would be very useful for x/c skiing, but not downhill


I am now thoroughly amused by the mental image of a downhill skier looking
at their GPS and then colliding with a tree. :)

--
\ carpe cavy!
seagull @ aracnet.com \
http://www.aracnet.com/~seagull/ \ (seize the guinea pig!)
Steve Calvin

2006-01-15, 11:48 pm

Seagull wrote:
> In alt.satellite.gps.garmin Phil Wheeler <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I am now thoroughly amused by the mental image of a downhill skier looking
> at their GPS and then colliding with a tree. :)
>

Sony Bono? (sorry, that was bad....)

--
Steve

If you can't beat 'em, they're not tied down properly.
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