Garmin GPS - Garmin MAC support

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Garmin MAC support

tvnav.com

2006-01-11, 5:48 pm

Garmin has announced that it will immediately begin to make its line of
GPS and mobile electronics devices compatible with Mac OS X version 10.4
"Tiger." This makes Garmin the first major GPS designer and manufacturer to
announce direct support for Mac OS X. For the full story go to
<http://makeashorterlink.com/?N1B81237C>
--

Darrel Goheen
GPS@tvnav.com
http://www.tvnav.com

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-11, 5:48 pm

tvnav.com wrote:
> Garmin has announced that it will immediately begin to make its line of
> GPS and mobile electronics devices compatible with Mac OS X version 10.4
> "Tiger." This makes Garmin the first major GPS designer and manufacturer to
> announce direct support for Mac OS X. For the full story go to
> <http://makeashorterlink.com/?N1B81237C>

Hah!

The devices, most of which have USB ports, are compatible. They just
need some OS X software for the Macs.

kmfks@his.com

2006-01-12, 5:48 pm

Is this really true: that existing garmin units
with USB ports will be Mac Compatible?

Is it just the Mapsource and Map Library
software that needs to be converted to Mac?

Or does the software/firmware in the gps unit
itself have to be made Mac compatible.

If the latter, will you be able to update the software
in existing units to make them Mac compatible.

I was planning on buying a Vista CX as soon as
they became available. Now this announcement
about Mac Supported Garmin units and I was
thinking I had to wait till the end of 2006 to buy.

What say ye?

Thanks, Larry

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-12, 5:48 pm

kmfks@his.com wrote:
> Is this really true: that existing garmin units
> with USB ports will be Mac Compatible?

Should be.

>
> Is it just the Mapsource and Map Library
> software that needs to be converted to Mac?
>

Possibly just Mapsource. The img files may work as is. I use National
Geo Topo in my PC and it needed only a new Mac program for the same map
CDs to work in my iBook.

> Or does the software/firmware in the gps unit
> itself have to be made Mac compatible.
>

Unlikely .. the GPS still has to work with the PCs.

> If the latter, will you be able to update the software
> in existing units to make them Mac compatible.
>
> I was planning on buying a Vista CX as soon as
> they became available. Now this announcement
> about Mac Supported Garmin units and I was
> thinking I had to wait till the end of 2006 to buy.
>

I expect the GPS receivers to be unaffected. So if you have a PC to
load maps into the Vista Cx now (or do not need to load maps now), you
should be OK.

Phil

Dr. Boggis

2006-01-12, 5:48 pm

In article <1137067486.474239.260030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
kmfks@his.com wrote:

> Is this really true: that existing garmin units
> with USB ports will be Mac Compatible?

Don't see why not, the USB standard is a standard after all, so it
should just need software/drivers on the Mac side to understand the data
transfer.

> Is it just the Mapsource and Map Library
> software that needs to be converted to Mac?
>
> Or does the software/firmware in the gps unit
> itself have to be made Mac compatible.

It would only be the transferring of data that needs adapting, so I
wouldn't imagine a firmware upgrade of the GPSr would be required - but
if it is, they're pretty simple to do and they would keep PC
compatibility intact (unless they're absolutely out of their minds).

> I was planning on buying a Vista CX as soon as
> they became available. Now this announcement
> about Mac Supported Garmin units and I was
> thinking I had to wait till the end of 2006 to buy.

Get one now, and if you have access to a PC to upload maps, do it. By
the time Mac stuff is actually available it'll probably be time to
update your maps anyway :-)
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Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-01-12, 11:48 pm

In article <1137067486.474239.260030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
kmfks@his.com wrote:

> Is this really true: that existing garmin units
> with USB ports will be Mac Compatible?

Yes.

But please, it's not MAC (as done in the thread title). PC stands for
Personal Computer. But there is no such thing as a MAC.

It's Mac. Short for Macintosh computer.

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-12, 11:48 pm

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <1137067486.474239.260030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
> kmfks@his.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Yes.
>
> But please, it's not MAC (as done in the thread title). PC stands for
> Personal Computer. But there is no such thing as a MAC.
>
> It's Mac. Short for Macintosh computer.
>

At least he got your attention, and then some :-)

tvnav.com

2006-01-12, 11:48 pm

Here is the reply I got from Garmin on the subject:

----- Original Message -----
From: "TechSupp" <techsupp@garmin.com>
To: "'tvnav.com'" <GPS@tvnav.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:50 PM
Subject: RE: Garmin MAC support

>
>
> I would be happy to assist you with this. Beginning in spring 2006,
> Garmin will offer a Mac version of its popular Training Center software.
> Used with Garmin's line of Forerunner and Edge series of fitness products,
> the Training Center software lets users plan and analyze workouts. Fitness
> enthusiasts can create their own workouts or use workout templates that
> can
> be downloaded into the unit for any level of personal training. The
> software
> also offers interactive analysis tools that will now allow Mac users to
> chart their performance information like speed, heart rate, cadence,
> elevation, and pace.
>
> Also in spring 2006, Garmin will make the www.MotionBased.com upload
> interface Mac compatible. MotionBased.com translates GPS data into
> performance analysis, online mapping, and route sharing for endurance and
> outdoor athletes. Data collected by a Garmin GPS device is uploaded to
> MotionBased.com where time, distance, speed, elevation, cadence, grade,
> and
> heart rate analysis is displayed through charts, illustrations, and
> reports.
> This activity data can also be displayed as a route and replayed on
> street,
> photo, topographic, and elevation maps as well as the popular Google Earth
> service. Members can also use the TrailNetwork database to seek out and
> download new activities in their region, to find popular routes while
> traveling, or to engage in "virtual races" with other MotionBased users.
>
> By the end of 2006, Garmin intends to have made all its popular
> hardware and software applications Mac OS X compatible. This includes the
> ability to load MapSource map data to Garmin units via a Mac, as well as
> waypoint and trip planning applications. Additionally, the Garmin nRoute
> application will allow Powerbook and iBook users to turn their laptop into
> a
> powerful street navigation tool with Garmin's GPS 10 or GPS 18 sensors.
>
> If you have any other questions feel free to email us back. Have a
> great evening.
> original text is included in your reply.

--

Darrel Goheen
GPS@tvnav.com
http://www.tvnav.com

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-1ED7BB. 17591212012006@nntp3
.usenetserver.com...
> In article <1137067486.474239.260030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
> kmfks@his.com wrote:
>
>
> Yes.
>
> But please, it's not MAC (as done in the thread title). PC stands for
> Personal Computer. But there is no such thing as a MAC.
>
> It's Mac. Short for Macintosh computer.
>

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-13, 2:48 am

That looks pretty much the same as the press release of Tues.

tvnav.com wrote:
> Here is the reply I got from Garmin on the subject:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "TechSupp" <techsupp@garmin.com>
> To: "'tvnav.com'" <GPS@tvnav.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:50 PM
> Subject: RE: Garmin MAC support
>
>
>
>
>

Chris Baird

2006-01-13, 5:48 pm

> Don't see why not, the USB standard is a standard after all

Not when the USB hardware controller inside the Garmins doesn't abide
by the standard, so that special device drivers are needed.

--
Chris

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-13, 5:48 pm

Chris Baird wrote:
>
> Not when the USB hardware controller inside the Garmins doesn't abide
> by the standard, so that special device drivers are needed.
>

You, sir, are a worrier :-)

But, seriously, that will be software in the Mac, not any firmware
change to the GPSR, I suspect.

Scott

2006-01-22, 5:48 pm

In article <elmop-1ED7BB. 17591212012006@nntp3
.usenetserver.com>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> But please, it's not MAC (as done in the thread title). PC stands for
> Personal Computer. But there is no such thing as a MAC.

Sure there is. Media Access Control. Every Mac has a MAC, aka hardware
address.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-01-22, 5:48 pm

In article <heimdall-612163. 12191222012006@indiv
idual.net>,
Scott <heimdall@spamless.invalid> wrote:

>
> Sure there is. Media Access Control.

Allow me to rephrase: there's no such thing as a MAC in the context of
discussing self-contained personal computing devices.

It's not a MAC. It's a Mac--which Apple doesn't even recognize, because
it's really a Macintosh computer according to them.

Regardless, it isn't a MAC. MAC is written by the ignorant who have no
clue.

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-22, 5:48 pm

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <heimdall-612163. 12191222012006@indiv
idual.net>,
> Scott <heimdall@spamless.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Allow me to rephrase: there's no such thing as a MAC in the context of
> discussing self-contained personal computing devices.
>
> It's not a MAC. It's a Mac--which Apple doesn't even recognize, because
> it's really a Macintosh computer according to them.
>
> Regardless, it isn't a MAC. MAC is written by the ignorant who have no
> clue.
>

Even more clueless is to post the same preachy message (rephrased) again.

Mr.JiggyFly

2006-01-22, 5:48 pm

What is really IGNORANT, is people who dont understand CAPITALIZATION as
EMPHASIS.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-078FFF. 16224822012006@nntp2
.usenetserver.com...
> In article <heimdall-612163. 12191222012006@indiv
idual.net>,
> Scott <heimdall@spamless.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> Allow me to rephrase: there's no such thing as a MAC in the context of
> discussing self-contained personal computing devices.
>
> It's not a MAC. It's a Mac--which Apple doesn't even recognize, because
> it's really a Macintosh computer according to them.
>
> Regardless, it isn't a MAC. MAC is written by the ignorant who have no
> clue.
>

Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-01-22, 11:48 pm

In article <CqKdnd8sIO-uYU7eRVn-uQ@comcast.com>,
"Mr.JiggyFly" < ctj73*nospam*@hotmai
l.com> wrote:

> What is really IGNORANT, is people who dont understand CAPITALIZATION as
> EMPHASIS.

No, writing a sentence like, "Should I buy a PC or a MAC?" isn't using
capitalization for emphasis.

It's capitalizing "MAC" out of ignorance.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-01-22, 11:48 pm

In article <fLSAf.1810$Ou1.1745@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
Phil Wheeler <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Even more clueless is to post the same preachy message (rephrased) again.

So, you would be one of the ignorant who have no clue, then.

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-22, 11:48 pm

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <fLSAf.1810$Ou1.1745@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
> Phil Wheeler <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> So, you would be one of the ignorant who have no clue, then.
>

Maybe so, since I'm sending this to you with an iBook.

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-22, 11:48 pm

Mr.JiggyFly wrote:
> What is really IGNORANT, is people who dont understand CAPITALIZATION as
> EMPHASIS.
>

Yeah, Elmo is like a dog with a bone :-)

Mike Lane

2006-01-22, 11:48 pm

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:43:52 +0000, Mr.JiggyFly wrote
(in article <CqKdnd8sIO-uYU7eRVn-uQ@comcast.com> ):

>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:elmop-078FFF. 16224822012006@nntp2
.usenetserver.com...
>
>
> What is really IGNORANT, is people who dont understand CAPITALIZATION as
> EMPHASIS.

[top posting re-arranged]

No, mostly it's those who top post and thereby screw up every thread they
contribute to.

--
Mike Lane
To contact me replace invalid with mike underscore lane

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-22, 11:48 pm

Mike Lane wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:43:52 +0000, Mr.JiggyFly wrote
> (in article <CqKdnd8sIO-uYU7eRVn-uQ@comcast.com> ):
>
>
>
>
> [top posting re-arranged]
>
> No, mostly it's those who top post and thereby screw up every thread they
> contribute to.
>

Hmm .. what "contribution" did he really make?

Scott W Brim

2006-01-23, 5:48 am

On 01/23/2006 00:29 AM, Mike Lane allegedly wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:43:52 +0000, Mr.JiggyFly wrote
> (in article <CqKdnd8sIO-uYU7eRVn-uQ@comcast.com> ):
>
>
> [top posting re-arranged]
>
> No, mostly it's those who top post and thereby screw up every thread they
> contribute to.
>

To quote a previous poster ...

Even more clueless is to post the same preachy message (rephrased)
again.

Give up on the rabid dogma about top posting. Sometimes it's the best
thing, sometimes not, depending on the situation. Bye.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-01-23, 5:48 pm

In article <43D496AF.70404@employees.org>,
Scott W Brim <swb@employees.org> wrote:

> Give up on the rabid dogma about top posting. Sometimes it's the best
> thing, sometimes not, depending on the situation. Bye.

That's like the old phrase, "he needed killin'." No, and no--never is
it the best thing.

Never is it even acceptable.

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-23, 5:48 pm

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <43D496AF.70404@employees.org>,
> Scott W Brim <swb@employees.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> That's like the old phrase, "he needed killin'." No, and no--never is
> it the best thing.
>
> Never is it even acceptable.
>

Enough from you Mr. *Nasty. Time for a new filter, folks.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-01-23, 11:48 pm

In article <xr6Bf.1899$Ou1.967@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
Phil Wheeler <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Enough from you Mr. *Nasty. Time for a new filter, folks.

Ah, you're the type that gets your rocks off *telling* the world who
you're plonking.

What's the matter--it's not enough just to do it without announcing it
to the world?

PC Medic

2006-01-24, 5:49 pm

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-105780. 17290522012006@nntp2
.usenetserver.com...
> In article <CqKdnd8sIO-uYU7eRVn-uQ@comcast.com>,
> "Mr.JiggyFly" < ctj73*nospam*@hotmai
l.com> wrote:
>
>
> No, writing a sentence like, "Should I buy a PC or a MAC?" isn't using
> capitalization for emphasis.
>
> It's capitalizing "MAC" out of ignorance.
>

And in your ARROGANCE, you just felt the need to jump in and correct their
preference of term.
As one who has been working with on PC's (both IBM Compatibles and Apples)
for better than 25 years I can say that th re usage is probably 50/50 where
MAC/Mac is concerened. I also assure you that Apple recognizes the tag "Mac"
as I deal with them daily and THEY often say "What type Mac are we talking
about?" or "What OS is on this Mac?". How about the fact that they refer to
their latest as OS "Mac OS X". Perhaps going to http://www.apple.com/ and
noting how many times they use the identifier "Mac" is something you should
try.

A little innocent ignorance is always more acceptable than a large amount of
self centered arrogance.

You may continue trolling now.....

Daniel MacKay

2006-01-24, 5:49 pm

I use Gypsy under OS 9 on my Mac PowerBook G4 running 10.4.4. with a
Serial <--> USB adaptor to my Garmin eTrex, works perfectly. Nice maps,
can upload and download waypoints & routes.

Dominic Sexton

2006-01-24, 5:49 pm

In message <62pBf.78506$4l5.69643@dukeread05>, PC Medic <not@home.com>
writes
>I also assure you that Apple recognizes the tag "Mac"
>as I deal with them daily and THEY often say "What type Mac are we talking
>about?" or "What OS is on this Mac?". How about the fact that they refer to
>their latest as OS "Mac OS X". Perhaps going to http://www.apple.com/ and
>noting how many times they use the identifier "Mac" is something you should
>try.

he could even try http://www.mac.com/

--

Dominic Sexton

Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-01-24, 5:49 pm

In article <62pBf.78506$4l5.69643@dukeread05>,
"PC Medic" <not@home.com> wrote:

> And in your ARROGANCE, you just felt the need to jump in and correct their
> preference of term.

It's not their "preference" of term. They're using a wrong term (or
rather, they're writing it incorrectly).

The way you say "preference," you make it sound like anyone can do
anything he PREFERS and by definition it's correct--just because he
PREFERS it that way?

Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-01-24, 5:49 pm

In article <62pBf.78506$4l5.69643@dukeread05>,
"PC Medic" <not@home.com> wrote:

> A little innocent ignorance is always more acceptable than a large amount of
> self centered arrogance.

And the ignorance piles up until there's nothing left but ignorance.

If you PREFER to go about your life doing things wrong, you get what you
get.

kingkael

2006-01-25, 5:48 pm

what's with all this deal about CAPS? This is a geocaching group! Not a
MAC or Mac or mac or "How you doing, Mack?" group.

(No, Seriously "How you doing, Mack?" if any you happen to be named
Mack.)

2Rowdy

2006-01-25, 5:49 pm

I was reading <1138216066.572871.106770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
made by the entity known as kingkael, that requests spam to be sent to
<kingkael@gmail.com> and I became inspired,

> what's with all this deal about CAPS? This is a geocaching group!
> Not a MAC or Mac or mac or "How you doing, Mack?" group.

What makes you think this is a geacaching newsgroup?

> (No, Seriously "How you doing, Mack?" if any you happen to be named
> Mack.)

Only trucks are named Mack.
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Seth

2006-01-25, 5:49 pm

"2Rowdy" <Harry131313@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I was reading <1138216066.572871.106770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> made by the entity known as kingkael, that requests spam to be sent to
> <kingkael@gmail.com> and I became inspired,
>
>
> What makes you think this is a geacaching newsgroup?

Maybe because alt.rec.geocaching is one of the newsgroups this message is
cross-posted to and that's where he was responding from. I'm reading this
mesage from alt.satellite.gps.garmin.

Dr. Boggis

2006-01-25, 5:49 pm

In article <UhRBf.1778$wk5.1261@news02.roc.ny>,
"Seth" < seth_lermanNOSPAM@ho
tmail.com> wrote:

> "2Rowdy" <Harry131313@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:dcedfd43d70d7c3
959bbc2176f912dcf@nn
tp.aacity.net...
>
> Maybe because alt.rec.geocaching is one of the newsgroups this message is
> cross-posted to and that's where he was responding from. I'm reading this
> mesage from alt.satellite.gps.garmin.

Whatever: this has been Just Another Stupid Usenet Argument. Time to
move on now, everybody.
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gomez

2006-01-26, 5:48 am

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:22:50 -0800, "Dr. Boggis"
<boggissimoron@yahoo.com> dropped the following oil- slick:
>
>Whatever: this has been Just Another Stupid Usenet Argument.
^^^^^^

Is there any other kind ;)
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Bruce Kieffer

2006-01-26, 5:49 pm

Does anyone know for sure if a GPSMAP® 60CX purchased today will be Mac OSX
compatible when the software is converted at the end of the year? This is a
huge question that Garmin should be able to easily answer. I emailed Garmin
that question and received no response. So I called them and the nice woman
I spoke with had no answer. That's pretty bad. I will not purchase a new
GPSMAP® 60CX now without a definitive "YES" to that question.

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-26, 5:49 pm

gomez wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 13:22:50 -0800, "Dr. Boggis"
> <boggissimoron@yahoo.com> dropped the following oil-slick:
>
>
> ^^^^^^
>
> Is there any other kind ;)

Alas, rarely ;(

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-26, 5:49 pm

Bruce Kieffer wrote:
> Does anyone know for sure if a GPSMAP® 60CX purchased today will be Mac OSX
> compatible when the software is converted at the end of the year? This is a
> huge question that Garmin should be able to easily answer. I emailed Garmin
> that question and received no response. So I called them and the nice woman
> I spoke with had no answer. That's pretty bad. I will not purchase a new
> GPSMAP® 60CX now without a definitive "YES" to that question.
>

These things are designed and built off shore. The folks you talked to
are in Kansas and likely do not have total knowledge of things to be,
since they are on the distribution end.

My guess is yes, I will be able to load maps into my existing 60C with
this iBook. At most there will be some firmware mod, and I don't expext
even that. I've found very few (can't really think of any) USB devices
that don't work equally well with my iBook and my PCs running WinXP ..
if the support software is available for Mac OS X.

Phil

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-26, 5:49 pm

2Rowdy wrote:
> I was reading <1138216066.572871.106770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> made by the entity known as kingkael, that requests spam to be sent to
> <kingkael@gmail.com> and I became inspired,
>
>
>
>
> What makes you think this is a geacaching newsgroup?
>
>
>
>
> Only trucks are named Mack.

You must not visit bars and bartenders very often :)

2Rowdy

2006-01-26, 5:49 pm

I was reading <WZ5Cf.863$Jg.193@tornado.socal.rr.com>, made by the
entity known as Phil Wheeler, that requests spam to be sent to
<w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> and I became inspired,

>
>
> You must not visit bars and bartenders very often :)

True. They all named Mack?
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2Rowdy

2006-01-26, 5:49 pm

I was reading <bR5Cf.3836$Ou1.2096@tornado.socal.rr.com>, made by the
entity known as Phil Wheeler, that requests spam to be sent to
<w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> and I became inspired,

> gomez wrote:
>
> Alas, rarely ;(

Mack, stop this Stupid Usenet Argument!
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just gray haired

Phil Wheeler

2006-01-28, 5:48 pm

2Rowdy wrote:
> I was reading <WZ5Cf.863$Jg.193@tornado.socal.rr.com>, made by the
> entity known as Phil Wheeler, that requests spam to be sent to
> <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> and I became inspired,
>
>
>
>
> True. They all named Mack?

No .. they seem to call all the patrons "Mack" :)

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