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| MiataRed 2006-01-18, 5:48 pm |
| I am using Mapsource 6.9.1.
How do I force Mapsource to use a ferry between 2 cities ?
Like between Bar Harbor, ME and Yarmouth, NS ?
Currently Mapsource insists on doing the long way round....
What am I missing ? I cannot find any tool to edit portions of a route
???
Thanks.
Denis
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| Jack Erbes 2006-01-18, 5:48 pm |
| MiataRed wrote:
> I am using Mapsource 6.9.1.
>
> How do I force Mapsource to use a ferry between 2 cities ?
>
> Like between Bar Harbor, ME and Yarmouth, NS ?
> Currently Mapsource insists on doing the long way round....
>
> What am I missing ? I cannot find any tool to edit portions of a route
> ???
Apparently MapSource does not have a vector included in it's database
for the Bar Harbor-Yarmouth ferry trip. I guess that software is for
getting places by car and the software simply does not recognize the
existence of ferrys.
As an aside, I noticed that Microsoft Streets & Trips 2006 does
recognize ferrys and will use them in planning routes. It does not show
the distance on the ferry trip leg in the trip mileage.
Sometimes nav software can do some bizarre things though. I live about
16 miles from Bar Harbor and for a trip to a place near Boston,
Massachusetts it had me take the ferry over to Yarmouth, NS and then
drive south through Canada to get on I-95 and then down to Boston. I
set a stop between home and Bangor, ME (my normal route to get to I-95)
and then it gave me a good route.
Starting this year, the Yarmouth Ferry (The Cat) will be running our of
Portland, ME on some days and Bar Harbor, ME on others. It will not
stop in Bar Harbor on the runs out of Portland. More info here:
http://www.catferry.com/
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA (jackerbes at adelphia dot net)
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine dot com)
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| Bill Cotton 2006-01-18, 11:48 pm |
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"Jack Erbes" <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> MiataRed wrote:
>
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> Apparently MapSource does not have a vector included in it's database for
> the Bar Harbor-Yarmouth ferry trip. I guess that software is for getting
> places by car and the software simply does not recognize the existence of
> ferrys.
Portion deleted;
I am planning a trip from Philadelphia PA to St. Petersburg FL and MapSource
prefer to route me on the Cape May ferry from Cape May to Cape Henlopen DE
and the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel. I force my route to follow the land
route to the Crisfield MD/ Smith Island/Reedville VA ferries. I cannot get
City Select to use the two ferries that crosses there. When I look at the
map I see that the ferry route lines stopped in mid stream. I made a route
to Crisfield and another that Start on the other side at Reedville.
The Maine to Yarmouth ferries route lines also stops in the middle of the
ocean. Clearly when this is reported, correct can be made in latter maps.
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| Hasse K 2006-01-18, 11:48 pm |
| MiataRed wrote:
> I am using Mapsource 6.9.1.
>
> How do I force Mapsource to use a ferry between 2 cities ?
>
> Like between Bar Harbor, ME and Yarmouth, NS ?
>
> Currently Mapsource insists on doing the long way round....
>
> What am I missing ? I cannot find any tool to edit portions of a
> route ???
>
Create a route from Bar Harbor, ME to Yarmouth, NS.
If the route is the long way around, right click on the route
on the map and choose "Insert Route Section", you can now
place a point anywhere you want the route to go. For example
on the ferry line you want to use. Put the point on the water
somewhere along the ferry line.
Otherwise you could use the "Route Tool" to put out points on
the map along which you want the route to go.
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Hasse
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| no_name 2006-01-18, 11:48 pm |
| MiataRed wrote:
> I am using Mapsource 6.9.1.
>
> How do I force Mapsource to use a ferry between 2 cities ?
>
> Like between Bar Harbor, ME and Yarmouth, NS ?
>
> Currently Mapsource insists on doing the long way round....
>
> What am I missing ? I cannot find any tool to edit portions of a route
> ???
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Denis
>
Have you tried breaking it into two different routes; each terminating
at a ferry terminal?
i.e. Start point to Bar Harbor ferry terminal ... Yarmouth ferry
terminal to finish point (& vice versa for the return journey).
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| Bill Cotton 2006-01-19, 5:48 pm |
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"no_name" <no_name@no.where.invalid> wrote in message
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> MiataRed wrote:
> at a ferry terminal?
>
> i.e. Start point to Bar Harbor ferry terminal ... Yarmouth ferry terminal
> to finish point (& vice versa for the return journey).
I am not the original poster, but I find that this is the way to do ferry
route when you can't see the ferry line on the map. I plotted this route on
my MapSource, including placing a waypoint on the ferry line that extend
from Bar Harbor to mid Bay. With the waypoint on that line, the route goes
to that waypoint and return to the land route.
As I posted I had the same problem with a Philadelphia to Florida route
planning where the route uses a New Jersey to Delaware ferry but not a
Maryland to Virginia ferry.
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www.billcotton.com
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| Hasse K 2006-01-19, 5:48 pm |
| Hasse K wrote:
> MiataRed wrote:
>
>
> Create a route from Bar Harbor, ME to Yarmouth, NS.
>
> If the route is the long way around, right click on the route
> on the map and choose "Insert Route Section", you can now
> place a point anywhere you want the route to go. For example
> on the ferry line you want to use. Put the point on the water
> somewhere along the ferry line.
>
> Otherwise you could use the "Route Tool" to put out points on
> the map along which you want the route to go.
I maybe should add that I have City Navigator NA v.6 and the ferry
line goes all the way from Bar Harbor to Yarmouth on my map. So no
problems when adding the point on the ferry line. The name of the
line is "Bar Harbor-Yarmouth Int'l Fry" on my map.
Which version of maps do those who have problem use? City Select
or City Navigator?
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Hasse
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| MiataRed 2006-01-19, 11:48 pm |
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Thank you.
City Select NA v7 Is what I use.
Looks like the only way to end one route at the ferry terminal and
start another one at the other ferry terminal.... so much for
technology...
MS Streets & Trips does a much better job with this - and has been able
to handle ferries for at least 3-4 years - I find it insulting that
the the newest version of City Select v7 does not recognize that such a
ferry exists...
DS
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| "MiataRed" <MiataRed@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you.
>
> City Select NA v7 Is what I use.
>
> Looks like the only way to end one route at the ferry terminal and
> start another one at the other ferry terminal.... so much for
> technology...
You could just do the route complete, setting the ferry launching point as a
via point. Once you go off the selected route a tad, the GPS will say
"Off-route, recalculating" and recover from there.
> MS Streets & Trips does a much better job with this - and has been able
> to handle ferries for at least 3-4 years - I find it insulting that
> the the newest version of City Select v7 does not recognize that such a
> ferry exists...
Insulting? I could see annoying, but taking it as a personal affront?
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