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Battery won't recharge on C330
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| news.prodigy.net 2006-11-23, 10:33 pm |
| Garmin tech support told me to press reset button and charge through USB
cable, but it won't hold the charge still. Any suggestions other than
sending it in for repair? It works fine while connected to computer or
windshield mount. Battery charge indicator shows a red bar on the
shortest bar even after several hours of charging. But sometimes it
will show 4 green bars temporarily, then back to the one red bar. Unit
will not turn on if not connected to car or computer.
DB
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| Josiah Jenkins 2006-11-24, 4:33 am |
| On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 02:12:01 GMT, I read these words from
"news.prodigy.net" <dbu@prodigy.net> :
>Garmin tech support told me to press reset button and charge through USB
>cable, but it won't hold the charge still. Any suggestions other than
>sending it in for repair? It works fine while connected to computer or
>windshield mount. Battery charge indicator shows a red bar on the
>shortest bar even after several hours of charging.
Via mains adaptor or USB connector ?
-- jjj
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| news.prodigy.net 2006-11-24, 10:33 pm |
| USB connector
Josiah Jenkins wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 02:12:01 GMT, I read these words from
> "news.prodigy.net" <dbu@prodigy.net> :
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> Via mains adaptor or USB connector ?
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> -- jjj
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| news.prodigy.net wrote:
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> USB connector
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> Josiah Jenkins wrote:
maybe your usb connection doesnt suppply enough ma
Eric
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| Josiah Jenkins 2006-11-26, 10:33 am |
| On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:01:45 GMT, I read these words from
"news.prodigy.net" <dbu@prodigy.net> :
>Josiah Jenkins wrote:
>USB connector
Try it on mains.
It may take up to three hours to fully charge.
-- jjj
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| news.prodigy.net 2006-11-26, 12:33 pm |
| What do you mean by "mains"? Driving around in the car for hours with
the unit in the windshield mount won't charge it up either.
db
Josiah Jenkins wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 04:01:45 GMT, I read these words from
> "news.prodigy.net" <dbu@prodigy.net> :
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> Try it on mains.
> It may take up to three hours to fully charge.
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> -- jjj
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| John Richards 2006-11-26, 12:33 pm |
| 'Mains' is a British word for AC power.
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John Richards
"news.prodigy.net" <dbu@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:4569C90F.7040704@prodigy.net...[color=darkred]
> What do you mean by "mains"? Driving around in the car for hours with
> the unit in the windshield mount won't charge it up either.
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> db
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> Josiah Jenkins wrote:
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| news.prodigy.net 2006-11-26, 12:33 pm |
| ok. thanks. my unit did not come with an AC adaptor.
db
John Richards wrote:
> 'Mains' is a British word for AC power.
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| Josiah Jenkins 2006-11-26, 10:33 pm |
| On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:04:23 GMT, I read these words from
"news.prodigy.net" <dbu@prodigy.net> :
>What do you mean by "mains"?
You're in North America ?
A wall-wart, 110v adaptor !
-- jjj
Driving around in the car for hours with[color=darkred]
>the unit in the windshield mount won't charge it up either.
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>db
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>Josiah Jenkins wrote:
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| Josiah Jenkins 2006-11-26, 10:33 pm |
| On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 17:19:09 GMT, I read these words from
"news.prodigy.net" <dbu@prodigy.net> :
>ok. thanks. my unit did not come with an AC adaptor.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to confuse.
Has it got an input connector ?
If so, a visit to Radio Shack may be the answer.
-- jjj[color=darkred]
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>db
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>John Richards wrote:
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| Chuck Rowe 2006-12-18, 10:33 am |
| The battery seems simple enough to replace. Anyone know whee to get a
suitable replacement?
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 02:12:01 GMT, "news.prodigy.net" <dbu@prodigy.net>
wrote:
>Garmin tech support told me to press reset button and charge through USB
>cable, but it won't hold the charge still. Any suggestions other than
>sending it in for repair? It works fine while connected to computer or
>windshield mount. Battery charge indicator shows a red bar on the
>shortest bar even after several hours of charging. But sometimes it
>will show 4 green bars temporarily, then back to the one red bar. Unit
>will not turn on if not connected to car or computer.
>
>DB
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| Phil Schitz 2006-12-18, 10:33 am |
| Also, is there really a difference between charging in the cradle and
via the USB or AC adapter cable? Before I pull this battery, I
suppose I should try charging the unit in the house. Generally, the
unit is never in the house, so I rely on the car's 12V power source to
charget eh internal Garmin battery. That's not working anymore.
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| Jack Erbes 2006-12-18, 12:33 pm |
| Phil Schitz wrote:
> Also, is there really a difference between charging in the cradle and
> via the USB or AC adapter cable?
It would depend on the battery voltage and the voltages out of the
cradle and the AC adapter.
The USB port will supply 5.0 Volts at 1/2 Amp. There will be little or
no variation from that figure.
If you have a VOM and can check the voltage out of your cradle and the
AC adapter you can find out what the input voltage for the C330, that
may be other than 5 Volts.
It may be that the cradle, AC adapter, and USB port all have different
voltages on them and that the input voltages regulation for charging is
handled internally.
In this link, which describes a do-it-yourself battery replacement on
the C320:
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/...938&whichpage=1
the battery is described as a 3.7V 1,800 mAh battery. It was replaced
there with a 3.7V 2400 mAh which would increase the capacity about 25%.
A 3.7V battery would need a charging voltage of about 4.3 Volts so the
output voltage from the Garmin DC or AC adapter might be about that
voltage. Or it might not.
If the outputs from the adapters is other than about 4.3 volts, say 5
Volts or 12 Volts, then the GPS is regulating the charging voltage
internally.
> Before I pull this battery, I
> suppose I should try charging the unit in the house. Generally, the
> unit is never in the house, so I rely on the car's 12V power source to
> charget eh internal Garmin battery. That's not working anymore.
If you can determine that your not getting any voltage out of one of
them, maybe one of the adapters has gone bad.
That thread has some good details on the doing it yourself. The battery
that was replaced there failed after 12 months of use. Those batteries
are rated as having a service life of 500 +/- charging cycles so it
looks like they would typically fail in a year or two with regular use.
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| Chuck Rowe 2006-12-18, 3:33 pm |
| I'm pretty sure the battery is toast. This post is exactlyu what I
neede to help me fix this on my own.
Thanks very much!!
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:59:15 -0500, Jack Erbes
<jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
>It would depend on the battery voltage and the voltages out of the
>cradle and the AC adapter.
>
>The USB port will supply 5.0 Volts at 1/2 Amp. There will be little or
>no variation from that figure.
>
>If you have a VOM and can check the voltage out of your cradle and the
>AC adapter you can find out what the input voltage for the C330, that
>may be other than 5 Volts.
>
>It may be that the cradle, AC adapter, and USB port all have different
>voltages on them and that the input voltages regulation for charging is
>handled internally.
>
>In this link, which describes a do-it-yourself battery replacement on
>the C320:
>
>http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/...938&whichpage=1
>
>the battery is described as a 3.7V 1,800 mAh battery. It was replaced
>there with a 3.7V 2400 mAh which would increase the capacity about 25%.
>
>A 3.7V battery would need a charging voltage of about 4.3 Volts so the
>output voltage from the Garmin DC or AC adapter might be about that
>voltage. Or it might not.
>
>If the outputs from the adapters is other than about 4.3 volts, say 5
>Volts or 12 Volts, then the GPS is regulating the charging voltage
>internally.
>
>
>If you can determine that your not getting any voltage out of one of
>them, maybe one of the adapters has gone bad.
>
>That thread has some good details on the doing it yourself. The battery
>that was replaced there failed after 12 months of use. Those batteries
>are rated as having a service life of 500 +/- charging cycles so it
>looks like they would typically fail in a year or two with regular use.
>
>Jack
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| Chuck Rowe 2006-12-23, 10:33 pm |
| That worked like a charm. I got the new battery today and soldered it
right in. If you're going to attempt this, I recommend you get the
patteries with the tabs on the terminals. Instead of heting up the
tabs, just get a bead of solder on the tip of the iron and touch it to
the solder point once the tab is attached. This ensures the battery
doesn't get too hot and the risk of the battery exploding is
minimized.
Thanks again, Jack.
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:59:15 -0500, Jack Erbes
<jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>It would depend on the battery voltage and the voltages out of the
>cradle and the AC adapter.
>
>The USB port will supply 5.0 Volts at 1/2 Amp. There will be little or
>no variation from that figure.
>
>If you have a VOM and can check the voltage out of your cradle and the
>AC adapter you can find out what the input voltage for the C330, that
>may be other than 5 Volts.
>
>It may be that the cradle, AC adapter, and USB port all have different
>voltages on them and that the input voltages regulation for charging is
>handled internally.
>
>In this link, which describes a do-it-yourself battery replacement on
>the C320:
>
>http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/...938&whichpage=1
>
>the battery is described as a 3.7V 1,800 mAh battery. It was replaced
>there with a 3.7V 2400 mAh which would increase the capacity about 25%.
>
>A 3.7V battery would need a charging voltage of about 4.3 Volts so the
>output voltage from the Garmin DC or AC adapter might be about that
>voltage. Or it might not.
>
>If the outputs from the adapters is other than about 4.3 volts, say 5
>Volts or 12 Volts, then the GPS is regulating the charging voltage
>internally.
>
>
>If you can determine that your not getting any voltage out of one of
>them, maybe one of the adapters has gone bad.
>
>That thread has some good details on the doing it yourself. The battery
>that was replaced there failed after 12 months of use. Those batteries
>are rated as having a service life of 500 +/- charging cycles so it
>looks like they would typically fail in a year or two with regular use.
>
>Jack
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| Jack Erbes 2006-12-27, 10:33 pm |
| Chuck Rowe wrote:
> That worked like a charm. I got the new battery today and soldered it
> right in. If you're going to attempt this, I recommend you get the
> patteries with the tabs on the terminals. Instead of heting up the
> tabs, just get a bead of solder on the tip of the iron and touch it to
> the solder point once the tab is attached. This ensures the battery
> doesn't get too hot and the risk of the battery exploding is
> minimized.
>
> Thanks again, Jack.
>
And you're welcome again too, Chuck. Glad to hear that all worked out.
Just for the info, can you tell us where you got the battery and the
model or part number? I'm think we're going to see a lot more people
replacing their own batteries on those as time goes on.
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA (jackerbes at adelphia dot net)
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine dot com)
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