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Address lookups - car vs handheld?
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| McTrack 2006-03-24, 5:48 pm |
| I bought a Legend Cx with 256MB card about a month ago for driving use
(have MapSource CD also). When I am travelling to an address more than
100 miles from my current location, I have to first select (or create)
a Waypoint in the general vicinity of my destination in order for the
Find Address to work. Do dedicated car units work the same way, or is
this behavior just a handheld thing? (found a post from 2001 that says
the Vista does the same thing).
While this isn't a huge deal, I still wish I'd known about it before
purchase, as I might have chosen something else (was looking for the
least expensive Garmin GPS that took several states worth of MapSource
data).
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| "McTrack" <mctrack57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I bought a Legend Cx with 256MB card about a month ago for driving use
> (have MapSource CD also). When I am travelling to an address more than
> 100 miles from my current location, I have to first select (or create)
> a Waypoint in the general vicinity of my destination in order for the
> Find Address to work. Do dedicated car units work the same way, or is
> this behavior just a handheld thing? (found a post from 2001 that says
> the Vista does the same thing).
>
> While this isn't a huge deal, I still wish I'd known about it before
> purchase, as I might have chosen something else (was looking for the
> least expensive Garmin GPS that took several states worth of MapSource
> data).
Many of the in-car installed units, as well as my StreetPilots (I have a
Quest and a 2610) let you enter a city (either by name or zip code) for
which to do your lookup from.
So in your example of "Find Address", I select "By Zip" or "City", enter
that in, then the street number and finally the name of the street.
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| McTrack wrote:
> I bought a Legend Cx with 256MB card about a month ago for driving use
> (have MapSource CD also). When I am travelling to an address more than
> 100 miles from my current location, I have to first select (or create)
> a Waypoint in the general vicinity of my destination in order for the
> Find Address to work. Do dedicated car units work the same way, or is
> this behavior just a handheld thing?
That isn't a handheld thing either. At least on my 6 year old Garmin
eMap I just enter the address and optionally the name of the city and
it finds it regardless of how far away it is. (When my daughter was
away at college over 250 air-miles from here I'd sometimes get calls
asking for help in finding some place and had no trouble using the
handheld eMap to give directions.)
I have the feeling you can do the equivalent on your Legend Cx but I
don't have one handy to try it out.
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| McTrack 2006-03-24, 11:48 pm |
| Well, the Legend does have a "City" entry in Find Address screen, but
it always comes up with "No Data" if I choose a city far away. For
example, in Hartford, CT, if I type in "Newark,NJ" it says "None
Found", but if I first select a Waypoint (that I created) for NYC, and
then choose "Find Near" then Newark, NJ is found.
There is an exception to this behavior, but it only applies to major
cities. If I choose Find Cities instead of Find Address then it will
find major cities in other states (e.g., it will find Newark from
Hartford) - but not smaller towns. So if I try to find Asbury Park, NJ
(from Hartford, CT), then I'm out of luck, unless I first create a
Waypoint somewhere within 50 miles of Asbury Park (assuming that I know
roughly where it is - ok, I know it is in NJ, but you get my drift).
Interesting to note that on Garmin's Mobile comparison page
(garmin.com/mobile/compare.jsp) , the eMap handheld is listed, but none
of the mapping eTrex units are. I didn't think anything of that before,
but now it makes me wonder...
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| peter 2006-03-24, 11:48 pm |
| McTrack wrote:
> Well, the Legend does have a "City" entry in Find Address screen, but
> it always comes up with "No Data" if I choose a city far away.
As I recall, the LegendCx Find Address screen has a 'region' as the
first line that defaults to wherever you're currently located. But I
believe you can select that field and modify it to get a different
region/state and then choosing the appropriate city should work.
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| McTrack 2006-03-24, 11:48 pm |
| I don't see anything like 'region' on any screen, much less Find
Address. However on the Find Cities screen with the Cities - Near
Current Location displayed, hitting the menu button brings up a list
with options of "Find by Name", "Nearest Containing...", "Select Map"
and "Change Reference". "Nearest Containing" _will_ find Asbury Park,
NJ when starting from Hartford, CT ("Find by Name" doesn't) - so it
looks like there is a workable solution after all (takes awhile to
search, but at least it works).
The manual sure could use improvement though!
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"McTrack" <mctrack57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143203267.359377.114030@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>I bought a Legend Cx with 256MB card about a month ago for driving use
> (have MapSource CD also). When I am travelling to an address more than
> 100 miles from my current location, I have to first select (or create)
> a Waypoint in the general vicinity of my destination in order for the
> Find Address to work. Do dedicated car units work the same way, or is
> this behavior just a handheld thing? (found a post from 2001 that says
> the Vista does the same thing).
>
> While this isn't a huge deal, I still wish I'd known about it before
> purchase, as I might have chosen something else (was looking for the
> least expensive Garmin GPS that took several states worth of MapSource
> data).
>
I had the orginal Legend but I don't think it had address look-up. It does
sound like the CX address search looks only within your current state.
Strange there's no way to select a different state.
Anyway if your use is primarily driving I think you would be far happier
with a unit like the Quest for $350 which includes Mapsource City Select,
115 meg built-in memory, and voice prompting. Are you within your money
back return period?
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| peter 2006-03-25, 11:48 pm |
| Bob L wrote:
> "McTrack" <mctrack57@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1143203267.359377.114030@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
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> I had the orginal Legend but I don't think it had address look-up.
It does have that function, but it only works if you have suitable maps
loaded such as MetroGuide or CitySelect. Other maps such as Roads &
Rec or USTopo don't have the necessary underlying data to support
address look-up.
> It does
> sound like the CX address search looks only within your current state.
> Strange there's no way to select a different state.
I wish someone else who has one of those units would chime in. I
played with one and remember being able to select and edit a field that
specified the state or region within a state. It was right at the top
of the page on which you specify the address.
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> Anyway if your use is primarily driving I think you would be far happier
> with a unit like the Quest for $350 which includes Mapsource City Select,
> 115 meg built-in memory, and voice prompting.
Depends on the need for map storage. The Quest at $350 is pretty
similar in cost to a Legend Cx plus CitySelect, but its memory is
limited to 115 MB whereas the Cx can be expanded today to 512 MB and
larger cards are coming very soon. But yes, I'd tend to opt for the
Quest myself although I can see the logic in making the opposite choice.
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| Bob L 2006-03-25, 11:48 pm |
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"peter" <prathman@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> It does have that function, but it only works if you have suitable maps
> loaded such as MetroGuide or CitySelect. Other maps such as Roads &
> Rec or USTopo don't have the necessary underlying data to support
> address look-up.
I'll buy that. I only used R&R and Topo with my Legend.
> Depends on the need for map storage. The Quest at $350 is pretty
> similar in cost to a Legend Cx plus CitySelect, but its memory is
> limited to 115 MB whereas the Cx can be expanded today to 512 MB and
> larger cards are coming very soon. But yes, I'd tend to opt for the
> Quest myself although I can see the logic in making the opposite choice.
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Yes, it wouldn't hurt to have more memory but I've really never felt
constrained by the 115mb - and I often travel throughout the US. It holds
several states at once. For example MA, CT, RI, NJ, southern NY (including
NYC and LI) plus southern NH and VT all fit. And it's easy to add a new
area whenever needed from my laptop.
The Quest 2 has all of the US preloaded but costs a lot more and doesn't
include the Mapsource DVD - not as good a value in my opinion. Some claim
loading too many maps can bog down these units too.
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| McTrack 2006-03-26, 5:48 pm |
| I suspect you must have had a Legend C rather than a Cx (the Cx just
came out in Jan). I downloaded the manual for the C and it discusses a
"Region" field. However, the Cx is not exactly the same, and it
doesn't have this. But since I found that "Nearest containing..." will
do what I want, I'm satisfied anyway.
For the fellow who suggested a Quest - I don't own a laptop so I wanted
a unit with more internal memory options. In hindsight, a StreetPilot
c320 would probably have been a better choice, but that is still more
than I wanted to spend (when you add memory card cost) and I can't
trade now without spending a bunch more.
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