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Author Best Mac USB Software for Garmin 60Cx
Phil Wheeler

2006-03-11, 5:48 pm

I'm looking for something very simple, just to transfer waypoints,
tracks, and routes .. so I can do maintenance with this iBook. Right
now I use a PC and EasyGPS, and it does just fine with the 60Cx via usb.

I've looked into some options. GPSConnect uses only the serial port ..
meaning a serial cable and rs232-usb converter. Even MacGPSPro
apparently will not interface with the 60/76Cx series via usb .. but
will the 60/76C series and the Vista Cx etc.; that is odd!

Any recommendations? I don't mind paying for the software, but will not
settle for a klugy rs232 interface to a computer which does not have it
native for a GPSR with usb built in.

Phil
Dennis Pogson

2006-03-12, 5:48 pm

Phil Wheeler wrote:
> I'm looking for something very simple, just to transfer waypoints,
> tracks, and routes .. so I can do maintenance with this iBook. Right
> now I use a PC and EasyGPS, and it does just fine with the 60Cx via
> usb.
>
> I've looked into some options. GPSConnect uses only the serial port ..
> meaning a serial cable and rs232-usb converter. Even MacGPSPro
> apparently will not interface with the 60/76Cx series via usb .. but
> will the 60/76C series and the Vista Cx etc.; that is odd!
>
> Any recommendations? I don't mind paying for the software, but will
> not settle for a klugy rs232 interface to a computer which does not
> have it native for a GPSR with usb built in.
>
> Phil


Don't know about the Mac, but this is one of several software products that
creates virtual RS232 serial ports on a PC. There are others of course, try
Google.

http://franson.com/gpsgate/

Dennis.


Dominic Sexton

2006-03-12, 5:48 pm

In article <4GFQf.11672$pV5.6656@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Phil Wheeler
<w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> writes
>I'm looking for something very simple, just to transfer waypoints, tracks,
>and routes .. so I can do maintenance with this iBook. Right now I use a
>PC and EasyGPS, and it does just fine with the 60Cx via usb.
>
>I've looked into some options. GPSConnect uses only the serial port ..
>meaning a serial cable and rs232-usb converter. Even MacGPSPro
>apparently will not interface with the 60/76Cx series via usb .. but will the
>60/76C series and the Vista Cx etc.; that is odd!
>
>Any recommendations? I don't mind paying for the software, but will not
>settle for a klugy rs232 interface to a computer which does not have it
>native for a GPSR with usb built in.


As far as I know the only Mac software that supports the USB Gamin units
is MacGPSPro:

http://macgpspro.com/

Their only major competitor that I am aware of doesn't seem to have any
info on their site about their software working with the USB units:

http://www.gpsy.com/


--

Dominic Sexton
Jack Erbes

2006-03-12, 5:48 pm

Phil Wheeler wrote:

> I'm looking for something very simple, just to transfer waypoints,
> tracks, and routes .. so I can do maintenance with this iBook. Right
> now I use a PC and EasyGPS, and it does just fine with the 60Cx via usb.
>
> I've looked into some options. GPSConnect uses only the serial port ..
> meaning a serial cable and rs232-usb converter. Even MacGPSPro
> apparently will not interface with the 60/76Cx series via usb .. but
> will the 60/76C series and the Vista Cx etc.; that is odd!


I guess the 60Cx has a built in serial to USB bridge and the iBook needs
to have or load a driver for it.

Here is a link with some info about Mac O/S drivers for the ubiquitous
Prologic PL-2303 serial to USB bridge.

http://theapotek.com/teknotes/archives/000014.html

You might try loading that on the off chance that Garmin is using the
PL-2303 in the 60Cx. Since the older series are working, it may be that
they went to a different IC or maybe even changed to another.

> Any recommendations? <snip>


Buy a PC laptop? :> ) When people ask me if they should buy a Mac or a
PC I always tell them they have to decide if they want to use a "bad"
O/S with tons of software, drivers, and help available for it or a good
O/S where you spend all your time looking for apps and drivers for stuff
developed for the bad O/S.

Jack

--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
Dominic Sexton

2006-03-12, 5:48 pm

In article < Rluy9gDdGAFEFwDQ@dsc
s.demon.co.uk>, Dominic Sexton
<{d-sep03}@dscs.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <4GFQf.11672$pV5.6656@tornado.socal.rr.com>, Phil Wheeler
><w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> writes
>
>As far as I know the only Mac software that supports the USB Gamin units
>is MacGPSPro:
>
> http://macgpspro.com/


I missed your ref to MacGPSPro in your post. I expect that they will add
support for the newer models shortly.

The developer Larry James used to post here and I'm sure he will be able
to let you know if they plan to support the newer models.

His email address is on the about us page:

http://macgpspro.com/html/newhtml/aboutus.html



--

Dominic Sexton
Phil Wheeler

2006-03-12, 5:48 pm

Jack Erbes wrote:
> Phil Wheeler wrote:
>
>
>
> I guess the 60Cx has a built in serial to USB bridge and the iBook needs
> to have or load a driver for it.
>


No, problem is that 60Cx et al have a different implementation than 60C,
it turms out .. according to developers of GPSBabel and MacGPSPro (new
data since my original msg).


> Buy a PC laptop? :> )


I have one and use it for map uploads, etc. But waypoints I download
into this iBook .. which is much safer to use on the web re worms,
viruses and other critters. My current solution is to get the wpts into
iBook, send them across LAN to my server and then download to Gateway
laptop (which has Mapsource, EasyGPS and all my Mapsource maps).


> When people ask me if they should buy a Mac or a
> PC I always tell them they have to decide if they want to use a "bad"
> O/S with tons of software, drivers, and help available for it or a good
> O/S where you spend all your time looking for apps and drivers for stuff
> developed for the bad O/S.
>


I'm not anti-Windows, just pro-convenience (to me!). And the 60Cx works
fine with EasyGPS on the PC Laptop to transfer (geocache) waypoints en
masse. But all the fussing with the LAN is a pain. And it means I need
to travel with both laptops when I'd rather not.

Phil
Phil Wheeler

2006-03-12, 5:48 pm

Dominic Sexton wrote:
> In article < Rluy9gDdGAFEFwDQ@dsc
s.demon.co.uk>, Dominic Sexton
> <{d-sep03}@dscs.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>
>
> I missed your ref to MacGPSPro in your post. I expect that they will add
> support for the newer models shortly.
>
> The developer Larry James used to post here and I'm sure he will be able
> to let you know if they plan to support the newer models.
>
>


We exchanged emails yesterday. He's making no promises.

In the extreme I'll wait until Garmin comes up with the promised "full
support of OS X" and continue my byzantine approach in the meantime.

Phil
af3556@gmail.com

2006-03-21, 11:48 pm

I don't know which direction you want to go (i.e. GPS -> Mac, or Mac ->
GPS), but if its the former then try LoadMyTracks
(http://www.cluetrust.com/LoadMyTracks.html).

Very simple workflow - when I return from an outing, I just plug in my
Garmin GPS 60, copy the tracks and waypoints to a GPX file using
LoadMyTracks, load these into GPSPhotoLinker
(http://oregonstate.edu/~earlyj/gpsphotolinker/), tag my pics and load
'em into iPhoto. (I do this to be able to search by location (string
tags added via GPSPhotoLinker), and in the hope that one day Apple or
someone else will add geolocation support to iPhoto. Indeed, it might
be possible even now to come up with a Spotlight mechanism to find
photos "near" a given location.)

Both developers are very responsive - with LoadMyTracks I've had
peculiar intermittent problems with my GPS 60 connecting via USB, and
the developer has provided excellent service in addressing this
problem. I tried MacGPSPro which didn't work at all with the GPS 60
(only the GPSMap 60*), and evidently there are no plans to support this
device.

Any other GPS stuff I do, e.g. plan a trip, I do via MapSource on my PC
- and this is about the only time these days that I fire up a Windows
box. I am really looking forward to Garmin's delivery on their promise
of "full Mac support"!

Ben

Ferrous Patella

2006-03-28, 11:48 pm

news:4GFQf.11672$pV5.6656@tornado.socal.rr.com by Phil Wheeler:

> I'm looking for something very simple, just to transfer waypoints,
> tracks, and routes .. so I can do maintenance with this iBook. Right
> now I use a PC and EasyGPS, and it does just fine with the 60Cx via usb.
>
> I've looked into some options. GPSConnect uses only the serial port ..
> meaning a serial cable and rs232-usb converter. Even MacGPSPro
> apparently will not interface with the 60/76Cx series via usb .. but
> will the 60/76C series and the Vista Cx etc.; that is odd!
>
> Any recommendations? I don't mind paying for the software, but will not
> settle for a klugy rs232 interface to a computer which does not have it
> native for a GPSR with usb built in.
>
> Phil


Garmin has announced that they will be releasing OS X software later this
year.

--
Ferrous Patella (Homo gerardii)
T.A., Philosophy Lab
University of Ediacara


Å vite hva man ikke vet,
er også en slags allvitenhet.
Phil Wheeler

2006-03-28, 11:48 pm

Ferrous Patella wrote:
> news:4GFQf.11672$pV5.6656@tornado.socal.rr.com by Phil Wheeler:
>
>
>
>
> Garmin has announced that they will be releasing OS X software later this
> year.
>


Duh! Everyone knows that. But likely that could be Oct or Nov.

Apparently there is nothing now which supports the 60Cx on the usb port.

Phil
Charles Newman

2006-04-03, 2:48 am

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"Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4GFQf.11672$pV5.6656@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> I'm looking for something very simple, just to transfer waypoints,
> tracks, and routes .. so I can do maintenance with this iBook. Right
> now I use a PC and EasyGPS, and it does just fine with the 60Cx via usb.


If your PC can do the job, use your PC and get rid
of your Mac. Windows is a must for computing
existence.



Artoi

2006-04-03, 2:48 am

In article < FKednX6ybPDmC63ZnZ2d
nUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast
.com>, Charles
Newman < charlesnewman1@comca
st.do.not.spam.me.net> wrote:

> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> "Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4GFQf.11672$pV5.6656@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
> If your PC can do the job, use your PC and get rid
> of your Mac. Windows is a must for computing
> existence.


If I have a Mac solution, I would always choose the Mac, for good
reason. :P

--
Phil Wheeler

2006-04-03, 5:48 am

Charles Newman wrote:
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> "Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4GFQf.11672$pV5.6656@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
>
>
> If your PC can do the job, use your PC and get rid
> of your Mac. Windows is a must for computing
> existence.
>


Sure if you like viruses and worms and such.

I use the iBook for email, PCs for product.
Phil Wheeler

2006-04-03, 5:48 am

Artoi wrote:
> In article < FKednX6ybPDmC63ZnZ2d
nUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast
.com>, Charles
> Newman < charlesnewman1@comca
st.do.not.spam.me.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> If I have a Mac solution, I would always choose the Mac, for good
> reason. :P
>
> --



Well, having both I'm in between. Mac is better for some things, PC for
others. Just like most tools (though some forget they are tools, not
religious icons) ;)

Phil
kevin weaver

2006-04-03, 5:48 pm

"Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lF2Yf.24590$w86.2751@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> Charles Newman wrote:
>
> Sure if you like viruses and worms and such.
>
> I use the iBook for email, PCs for product.


Mac's don't ever get viruses or worms ?

We all know that Phil is never wrong.

So I quess that symantec if full of crap when they say the following ?

a.. IMPROVED! QuickMenu gives you instant access to frequently used
features.
b.. Automatically removes viruses (including macro viruses), worms, and
Trojan horses.
c.. Scans email attachments, instant message attachments, Internet
downloads, and other incoming files.
d.. Detects and repairs viruses in file archives.
e.. Protects against PC as well as Mac viruses to prevent you from
spreading viruses to PC users.
f.. LiveUpdateT can automatically download and install new virus
definitions*.
g.. NortonT Scheduler lets you schedule regular virus scans and LiveUpdate
checks.
New Features
a.. Compatible with Mac OS® X v10.4 TigerT.
b.. Includes a Global Threat Assessment Dashboard widget.
c.. Puts scan controls in Mac OS X contextual menus.
d.. Smart Volume Scanning eliminates redundant scanning of media you know
are virus free.
e.. Custom SafeZones save time and system resources by scanning only
specified drives or directories.


Hugh Scott

2006-04-03, 5:48 pm

Yep, they are. Just trying to sell you something that you don't need.

On 2006-04-03 05:44:28 -0400, "kevin weaver" < kevinweaver1@charter
.net> said:

> "Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:lF2Yf.24590$w86.2751@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
> Mac's don't ever get viruses or worms ?
>
> We all know that Phil is never wrong.
>
> So I quess that symantec if full of crap when they say the following ?
>
> a.. IMPROVED! QuickMenu gives you instant access to frequently used features.
> b.. Automatically removes viruses (including macro viruses), worms,
> and Trojan horses.
> c.. Scans email attachments, instant message attachments, Internet
> downloads, and other incoming files.
> d.. Detects and repairs viruses in file archives.
> e.. Protects against PC as well as Mac viruses to prevent you from
> spreading viruses to PC users.
> f.. LiveUpdateT can automatically download and install new virus
> definitions*.
> g.. NortonT Scheduler lets you schedule regular virus scans and
> LiveUpdate checks.
> New Features
> a.. Compatible with Mac OS® X v10.4 TigerT.
> b.. Includes a Global Threat Assessment Dashboard widget.
> c.. Puts scan controls in Mac OS X contextual menus.
> d.. Smart Volume Scanning eliminates redundant scanning of media you
> know are virus free.
> e.. Custom SafeZones save time and system resources by scanning only
> specified drives or directories.



Phil Wheeler

2006-04-03, 5:48 pm

kevin weaver wrote:
> "Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:lF2Yf.24590$w86.2751@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
>
>
> Mac's don't ever get viruses or worms ?
>
> We all know that Phil is never wrong.


Thank you. I will add you to my ever growing list of sycophants. You
will fit in quite well.

Re the below: Just because Symantec is willing to sell a product does
not prove it is required. Trying to make a buck is not the same as
"full of crap". I do use their PC products. Never needed in the Mac.

Phil

>
> So I quess that symantec if full of crap when they say the following ?
>
> a.. IMPROVED! QuickMenu gives you instant access to frequently used
> features.
> b.. Automatically removes viruses (including macro viruses), worms, and
> Trojan horses.
> c.. Scans email attachments, instant message attachments, Internet
> downloads, and other incoming files.
> d.. Detects and repairs viruses in file archives.
> e.. Protects against PC as well as Mac viruses to prevent you from
> spreading viruses to PC users.
> f.. LiveUpdateT can automatically download and install new virus
> definitions*.
> g.. NortonT Scheduler lets you schedule regular virus scans and LiveUpdate
> checks.
> New Features
> a.. Compatible with Mac OS® X v10.4 TigerT.
> b.. Includes a Global Threat Assessment Dashboard widget.
> c.. Puts scan controls in Mac OS X contextual menus.
> d.. Smart Volume Scanning eliminates redundant scanning of media you know
> are virus free.
> e.. Custom SafeZones save time and system resources by scanning only
> specified drives or directories.
>
>

kevin weaver

2006-04-03, 5:48 pm

"Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mN9Yf.39666$%d.37319@tornado.socal.rr.com...[color=darkred]
> kevin weaver wrote:
>
> Thank you. I will add you to my ever growing list of sycophants. You
> will fit in quite well.
>
> Re the below: Just because Symantec is willing to sell a product does not
> prove it is required. Trying to make a buck is not the same as "full of
> crap". I do use their PC products. Never needed in the Mac.
>
> Phil
>

Great, Glad to have made your list. Next time I go to bad mouth a company
that did not take care of the customer, I won't have to see your BS about
it.


Phil Wheeler

2006-04-03, 5:48 pm

kevin weaver wrote:
>
>
> Great, Glad to have made your list. Next time I go to bad mouth a company
> that did not take care of the customer, I won't have to see your BS about
> it.
>
>


Wrong list, Kevin. Since you believe I am never wrong (your words
above), you are now on my "must read" list .. knowing that you will
always say "Yes, Phil" :)

Phil
kevin weaver

2006-04-03, 5:48 pm

"Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5SaYf.39723$%d.13482@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> kevin weaver wrote:
>
> Wrong list, Kevin. Since you believe I am never wrong (your words above),
> you are now on my "must read" list .. knowing that you will always say
> "Yes, Phil" :)
>
> Phil



Phil,
Did you see or read this ?

http://www.forbes.com/2006/02/16/ap...artner=yahootix

Phil Wheeler

2006-04-03, 5:48 pm

kevin weaver wrote:
> "Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:5SaYf.39723$%d.13482@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
>
>
>
> Phil,
> Did you see or read this ?
>
> http://www.forbes.com/2006/02/16/ap...artner=yahootix
>


Sure. No problem with that here for several reasons.

But you seem to be coming from a "bash the Mac" viewpoint which is hard
to understand. I see value in both Macs and PCs, and use both for
different purposes.

If you don't want a Mac, don't buy one: Easy thing to do. But no need to
attack those who find some utility in them.

Phil
Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-04-03, 5:48 pm

In article <DpbYf.39726$%d.6060@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
Phil Wheeler <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote:

> If you don't want a Mac, don't buy one: Easy thing to do. But no need to
> attack those who find some utility in them.


It is amazing at how many people devote their lives to bashing others
like that. Like you said, a tool is a tool. Use what's appropriate.

But to choose not to use a tool, and then to bash others because they DO
choose to use the tool, is incomprehensible.

Gilles Missout

2006-04-03, 5:48 pm

Charles Newman wrote:

> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> "Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4GFQf.11672$pV5.6656@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
>
>
> If your PC can do the job, use your PC and get rid
> of your Mac. Windows is a must for computing
> existence.
>
>
>

Never forget the remark of the HVAC peoples (Heating, Ventilating, and
Air-Conditioning) :

"It's well known that trouble start when you open windows!!!"
:0)

I personnaly use Virtual PC on a mac powerbook G4, and since I have an
Etrex vista with serial connection, I use the BAFO USB to Serial Adapter
(DB9) BF-810.
Everythings work well, even at 115kBits/sec for the map transfer.

Gilles
H.W. Stockman

2006-04-03, 11:48 pm


"Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zH2Yf.24599$w86.8993@tornado.socal.rr.com...
[...]
'> Well, having both I'm in between. Mac is better for some things, PC for
> others. Just like most tools (though some forget they are tools, not
> religious icons) ;)


Here here, well-said. Please folks, don't make this some sort of PC-Mac
jihad.


Charles Newman

2006-04-04, 11:48 pm

X-No-Archive: Yes

"Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lF2Yf.24590$w86.2751@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> Charles Newman wrote:
>
> Sure if you like viruses and worms and such.
>
> I use the iBook for email, PCs for product.


All the most popular programs are only available
for the PC. Microsoft Office is only available for
the PC. Windows Media and Real Player are also
only available for the PC.


Phil Wheeler

2006-04-04, 11:48 pm

Charles Newman wrote:
>
>
> All the most popular programs are only available
> for the PC. Microsoft Office is only available for
> the PC. Windows Media and Real Player are also
> only available for the PC.
>
>


You really don't know much about the Mac world, Charles. I use MS
Office 2003 on my PCs and MS Office 2004 on my Mac; work files (doc,
xls, ppt, etc.) are completely interchangable. Example: I just
completed a 240MB ppt briefing today working back and forth between
iBook and PC laptop.

There is also an OS X version of Windows Media Player which I use regularly.

Not sure re Real Player, but I haven't missed it: Audio/video media and
graphics are strong suits for the Mac.

I use Firefox and Thunderbird on both platforms, too.

To be sure, there are may apps (e.g., Mapsource) unavailable for the
Mac. But all the mainstream ones are.

Phil
Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-04-04, 11:48 pm

In article < ZMednQC1W7t_fK_ZnZ2d
nUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast
.com>,
"Charles Newman" < charlesnewman1@comca
st.do.not.spam.me.net> wrote:

> "Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:lF2Yf.24590$w86.2751@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
> All the most popular programs are only available
> for the PC.


Read that: the programs YOU are interested in.

There is also software that is available ONLY on Macintosh.

Use the tool for the job.



> Microsoft Office is only available for
> the PC.


Really. Is that so? We have that on your authority, then?

Well, we know what your authority is now worth:

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/

What's that listed in the top left corner? Oh, there it is--Microsoft
Office for Macintosh:

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/produc...4.aspx?pid=offi
ce2004

So now we all know how to take what Charles Newman says: with a big
grain of salt. Actually, he apparently has a religious agenda--because
he's willing to lie, and to ignore reality, in order to try to further
his agenda.


> Windows Media and Real Player are also
> only available for the PC.


Is that right?

Let's see, shall we?

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherp...spx?pid=windows
media

Whoops! There's that pesky Windows Media Player.

As for RealPlayer:

http://tinyurl.com/6mb6f


Charles, that's three strikes and you are OUT. Out of your mind, at
least.

If this is how you argue a point, I have some advice for you: next time
you're in front of a judge, keep your mouth shut. You only do yourself
more harm than anything.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-04-04, 11:48 pm

In article <4ABYf.22880$WK1.19408@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
Phil Wheeler <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote:

> To be sure, there are may apps (e.g., Mapsource) unavailable for the
> Mac.


Of course, Garmin is changing that.

And there are Mac programs unavailable on Windows at any cost.

Charles is a religious nutcase who apparently can't stand people using
tools other than the ones he uses. A quick browse of Google confirms
that.

Phil Wheeler

2006-04-04, 11:48 pm

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <4ABYf.22880$WK1.19408@tornado.socal.rr.com>,
> Phil Wheeler <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Of course, Garmin is changing that.
>
> And there are Mac programs unavailable on Windows at any cost.
>
> Charles is a religious nutcase who apparently can't stand people using
> tools other than the ones he uses. A quick browse of Google confirms
> that.
>


It is amazing how much good software there is for the Mac once you start
looking. But if no need, no looks .. I suspect that's where Charles is.

Phil
Hugh Scott

2006-04-05, 5:48 pm

Charles, you are really off base. MS Office is certainly available for
the Mac, if anyone wants to use it. Also there's no reason that any Mac
user would want to use Real Player or Media Player with what's
available for the Mac. Go back to the Dark Ages of computing and leave
the rest of us alone.

On 2006-04-04 18:15:00 -0400, "Charles Newman"
< charlesnewman1@comca
st.do.not.spam.me.net> said:

> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> "Phil Wheeler" <w6tuh-ng7@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:lF2Yf.24590$w86.2751@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
> All the most popular programs are only available
> for the PC. Microsoft Office is only available for
> the PC. Windows Media and Real Player are also
> only available for the PC.



Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-04-05, 5:48 pm

In article <2006040508311716807-me@homenet>, Hugh Scott <me@home.net>
wrote:

> Charles, you are really off base. MS Office is certainly available for
> the Mac, if anyone wants to use it. Also there's no reason that any Mac
> user would want to use Real Player or Media Player with what's
> available for the Mac. Go back to the Dark Ages of computing and leave
> the rest of us alone.


Oh, let's make Charles's eyeballs explode:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

As of today, there's intensely less need to buy anything but Apple
hardware.

And if the rumors are correct, by the end of the year the new Mac OS
10.5 will be able to run up to three operating systems SIMULTANEOUSLY,
not just as a multi-boot platform.

That's right--Mac OS, Windows (XP or Vista), and Linux--all running
simultaneously.

Hey, Charles--get a Mac. NOW, you can't live without one. Because
every application you'll ever want to run, ever, will run on Macintosh.
And ONLY Macintosh will run them all.

H.W. Stockman

2006-04-06, 5:48 pm


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-FB1FAC. 16044905042006@nntp3
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> In article <2006040508311716807-me@homenet>, Hugh Scott <me@home.net>
> wrote:
> And if the rumors are correct, by the end of the year the new Mac OS
> 10.5 will be able to run up to three operating systems SIMULTANEOUSLY,
> not just as a multi-boot platform.
>
> That's right--Mac OS, Windows (XP or Vista), and Linux--all running
> simultaneously.


Boy, I bet there will be a HUGE market for that capability.


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