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What is the difference between 60csx or 76csx?
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| I looked on the Garmin site and compared the the two, but other then the
different size microSD cards I don't see a difference. I am sure I am
missing something, but I don't know what? Thanks, BOB
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| peter 2006-07-22, 10:33 pm |
| BOB wrote:
> I looked on the Garmin site and compared the the two, but other then the
> different size microSD cards I don't see a difference. I am sure I am
> missing something, but I don't know what? Thanks, BOB
Nope, probably not missing anything. The 76 series is bulkier (i.e.
greater volume), so it floats a bit higher in the water if dropped
overboard (but the 60 models I've seen also float). They also have the
buttons on top of the screen which some people like and others don't.
And the case style is different - the 76 lies flat on a desk better and
the 60 series has a bit of rubber armoring.
The memory card difference has become almost irrelevant since many
people will end up getting a bigger card anyway.
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| Jack Erbes 2006-07-22, 10:33 pm |
| peter wrote:
> BOB wrote:
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> Nope, probably not missing anything. The 76 series is bulkier (i.e.
> greater volume), so it floats a bit higher in the water if dropped
> overboard (but the 60 models I've seen also float). They also have the
> buttons on top of the screen which some people like and others don't.
> And the case style is different - the 76 lies flat on a desk better and
> the 60 series has a bit of rubber armoring.
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> The memory card difference has become almost irrelevant since many
> people will end up getting a bigger card anyway.
Another difference is that the microSD card access is much faster and
easier on the 76CSx. On the 76CSx you remove the battery cover, press
the card end of the microSD card in and it pops out. On the 60CSx you
have to remove the batteries from the case, then remove a small metal
holder that has the microSD card in it.
A issue with both the 60 and 76 series is with some batteries fitting
too tightly due to variations in length. And there have been some cases
of battery contacts breaking off as a result of being over-stressed
during battery inserting and removal. With either one you have to be
careful when inserting and removing batteries.
Jack
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| Thanks for the help guys. The info will make my decision easier. BOB
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> peter wrote:
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> Another difference is that the microSD card access is much faster and
> easier on the 76CSx. On the 76CSx you remove the battery cover, press the
> card end of the microSD card in and it pops out. On the 60CSx you have to
> remove the batteries from the case, then remove a small metal holder that
> has the microSD card in it.
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> A issue with both the 60 and 76 series is with some batteries fitting too
> tightly due to variations in length. And there have been some cases of
> battery contacts breaking off as a result of being over-stressed during
> battery inserting and removal. With either one you have to be careful
> when inserting and removing batteries.
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> Jack
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>I looked on the Garmin site and compared the the two, but other then the
>different size microSD cards I don't see a difference. I am sure I am
>missing something, but I don't know what? Thanks, BOB
>
Have a look at this site
http://gpsinformation.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1150
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| Ivor Jones 2006-07-23, 12:33 pm |
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> Have a look at this site
> http://gpsinformation.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1150
I've been trying to decide between these two as well and apart from the
physical construction and shape of them they seem identical as far as
features go. I compared them on the Garmin site as well and as far as I
can make out they're all but indentcal in what they offer, so it's down to
personal preference as to where you like the buttons, i.e. above or below
the screen etc.
Ivor
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| Phil Wheeler 2006-07-23, 12:33 pm |
| Jack Erbes wrote:
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> Another difference is that the microSD card access is much faster and
> easier on the 76CSx. On the 76CSx you remove the battery cover, press
> the card end of the microSD card in and it pops out. On the 60CSx you
> have to remove the batteries from the case, then remove a small metal
> holder that has the microSD card in it.
>
Owning the 60Cx, I would prefer the card interface of the 76Cx. I've
had one occasion when I seated the card poorly and the maps were not
available. Since I seldom remove my 1 GB card, likely not a big deal.
Phil
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| Jack Erbes 2006-07-23, 3:33 pm |
| Ivor Jones wrote:
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> I've been trying to decide between these two as well and apart from the
> physical construction and shape of them they seem identical as far as
> features go. I compared them on the Garmin site as well and as far as I
> can make out they're all but indentcal in what they offer, so it's down to
> personal preference as to where you like the buttons, i.e. above or below
> the screen etc.
>
My agonizing between the 60Cx and 76Cx was brought to a halt when they
had that (now ended) $100 rebate that got the price down to $299 for me
(my rebate has been acknowledged, is still in processing).
I was not certain about the top buttons until I got it and used it.
When I use it handheld it is generally in my left hand and the top
buttons actually seem to work better than do the bottom buttons with my
Meridian Color (shape and button locations are similar to the 60Cx).
I bought (on eBay) a Gillson marked neoprene case for the 76Cx that has
clear protective panel. It is very nicely fitted and makes the 76Cx
easier to handle and covers for the lack of rubber covering as far as
friction and padding. The clear plastic cover slows down the use of the
buttons and joy pad a little, I may cut away that part of the clear
plastic. I can accesss the mini-USB port and use the DC adapter with
the case by unzipping the bottom of the case. In fact, the neoprene
case also works to keep the DC plug in place better in mobile use.
So, no regrets on the 76Cx and I actually prefer the shape of it to the
shape of the 60 as far as laying and propping it in various places in
boats and cars.
You're not near me are you Ivor? I could give you a test drive if you
were. :> )
Jack
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(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine dot com)
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| Holger Issle 2006-07-23, 3:33 pm |
| On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 21:50:50 -0400, "BOB" <bob68@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I looked on the Garmin site and compared the the two, but other then the
> different size microSD cards I don't see a difference. I am sure I am
> missing something, but I don't know what? Thanks, BOB
The stick antenna of the 60 is cumbersome to remove from some pockets.
The 76 is "plain". Another point is the basemap size, where some have
reported it to carry more details than on the 60 series. As the unit
can autoroute you from one detailed area over the basemap to the next
detailed area this might be interesting.
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| Jack Erbes 2006-07-23, 3:33 pm |
| Holger Issle wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 21:50:50 -0400, "BOB" <bob68@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> The stick antenna of the 60 is cumbersome to remove from some pockets.
> The 76 is "plain". Another point is the basemap size, where some have
> reported it to carry more details than on the 60 series. As the unit
> can autoroute you from one detailed area over the basemap to the next
> detailed area this might be interesting.
You're using the European basemap right? Aren't basemaps included in
the software updates and don't both models use the same software
updates? If the updates are the same for both the 60CSx and 76CSx I'd
think they would both have the same basemap.
Jack
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(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine dot com)
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| StuartMW 2006-07-23, 10:33 pm |
| Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Aren't basemaps included in the software updates
No.
> and don't both models use the same software updates?
Yes.
> If the updates are the same for both the 60CSx and 76CSx I'd
> think they would both have the same basemap.
The 60C/60CS and 76C/76CS have different basemaps (8MB for the 60's
and 13MB for the 76's) but Garmin doesn't say anything about the x
variants. Most likely they're the same (for a given part of the
world).
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| Ivor Jones 2006-07-23, 10:33 pm |
| "Jack Erbes" <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> So, no regrets on the 76Cx and I actually prefer the
> shape of it to the shape of the 60 as far as laying and
> propping it in various places in boats and cars.
Thanks for that, I think you may be somewhere near deciding me.
> You're not near me are you Ivor? I could give you a test
> drive if you were. :> )
I'm afraid not, Jack. I'm several thousand miles away in the UK. I do get
to the US occasionally, I will probably be over either late this year or
early next year, but it's California not Maine..! Never mind, thanks for
the offer..!
Ivor
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| Phil Wheeler 2006-07-23, 10:33 pm |
| Holger Issle wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 21:50:50 -0400, "BOB" <bob68@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> The stick antenna of the 60 is cumbersome to remove from some pockets.
> The 76 is "plain". Another point is the basemap size, where some have
> reported it to carry more details than on the 60 series.
"Some" have reported incorrectly.
Phil
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| Phil Wheeler 2006-07-23, 10:33 pm |
| Jack Erbes wrote:
> Holger Issle wrote:
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> You're using the European basemap right? Aren't basemaps included in
> the software updates and don't both models use the same software
> updates? If the updates are the same for both the 60CSx and 76CSx I'd
> think they would both have the same basemap.
>
The basemaps are not part of the updates, They are in read-only memory.
Phil
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| Jack Erbes 2006-07-23, 10:33 pm |
| Ivor Jones wrote:
> I'm afraid not, Jack. I'm several thousand miles away in the UK. I do get
> to the US occasionally, I will probably be over either late this year or
> early next year, but it's California not Maine..! Never mind, thanks for
> the offer..!
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> Ivor
You're welcome. Watch out for Kalifornia, I'm a native born son of that
Glorious state and lived there until 2001 when I moved to Maine. Don't
miss the bedlam and politics, do miss some of the people and places, and
occasionally even the weather.
The trouble with California is that anyone that wants to can live there
And it has been that way for far too long. :> )
Jack
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| Jack Erbes 2006-07-23, 10:33 pm |
| StuartMW wrote:
> Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
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> Yes.
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> The 60C/60CS and 76C/76CS have different basemaps (8MB for the 60's
> and 13MB for the 76's) but Garmin doesn't say anything about the x
> variants. Most likely they're the same (for a given part of the
> world).
Thanks for the details. So if you somehow lost or blew your basemap
away, you can't reload it?
Jack
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(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| Phil Wheeler 2006-07-23, 10:33 pm |
| Jack Erbes wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
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> You're welcome. Watch out for Kalifornia, I'm a native born son of that
> Glorious state and lived there until 2001 when I moved to Maine. Don't
> miss the bedlam and politics, do miss some of the people and places, and
> occasionally even the weather.
>
> The trouble with California is that anyone that wants to can live there
> And it has been that way for far too long. :> )
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We miss you, Jack .. and I'm sure Arnold does, too :)
Phil
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| Ivor Jones 2006-07-24, 7:33 am |
| "Jack Erbes" <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> StuartMW wrote:
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> Thanks for the details. So if you somehow lost or blew
> your basemap away, you can't reload it?
The basemap is hard-coded into the firmware, so it can't be deleted.
That's why a US device can't have the European basemap put on it and vice
versa.
Ivor
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| Jack Erbes 2006-07-24, 7:33 am |
| Phil Wheeler wrote:
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> We miss you, Jack .. and I'm sure Arnold does, too :)
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> Phil
I'm glad to hear that. Glory in Arnold's reign, he may become
California's benchmark for good governors that had English as a second
language. Not telling where they are going from there.
Maine is refreshing. English is the primary language for all government
business, every one seems to be helpful towards those that are still
learning English, and the new residents that are not native English
speakers seem to be working at learning English.
Since we Mainers (we are !not! Mainiacs) have the highest personal taxes
of all the states in the U.S., it is a good thing that they are not
wasting a lot of money on trying to do every thing in 26 different
languages.
Do they have study guide for the California Driver's license in Ebonics
yet? That was the only missing language when I left. :> )
Jack
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| Jack Erbes 2006-07-24, 7:33 am |
| Ivor Jones wrote:
> The basemap is hard-coded into the firmware, so it can't be deleted.
> That's why a US device can't have the European basemap put on it and vice
> versa.
>
Okay, I guess that is so they can protect the outrageous prices they
charge for the European models? And the perceived need to own one of
each of them to operate in Europe and the U.S.? It's only fair I guess,
with all the money you people have... :> )
I'm probably confused but I was thinking that on my Magellan Meridian
was the same way, and that basemap was loaded with the software version.
But I guess that was not the case.
As an aside, I recently noticed that Magellan is using a 20 channel SiRF
III chipset in some of the newer models. They need to advertise that
more loudly, it is one of the few areas where they are competing with
Garmin.
Jack
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(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| Phil Wheeler 2006-07-24, 7:33 am |
| Jack Erbes wrote:
> Phil Wheeler wrote:
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> I'm glad to hear that. Glory in Arnold's reign, he may become
> California's benchmark for good governors that had English as a second
> language. Not telling where they are going from there.
>
> Maine is refreshing. English is the primary language for all government
> business, every one seems to be helpful towards those that are still
> learning English, and the new residents that are not native English
> speakers seem to be working at learning English.
>
> Since we Mainers (we are !not! Mainiacs) have the highest personal taxes
> of all the states in the U.S., it is a good thing that they are not
> wasting a lot of money on trying to do every thing in 26 different
> languages.
>
> Do they have study guide for the California Driver's license in Ebonics
> yet? That was the only missing language when I left. :> )
>
Know what you mean, Jack .. though you are too close to Quebec to be
complacent :)
Phil
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| Phil Wheeler 2006-07-24, 7:33 am |
| Jack Erbes wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
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> Okay, I guess that is so they can protect the outrageous prices they
> charge for the European models? And the perceived need to own one of
> each of them to operate in Europe and the U.S.? It's only fair I guess,
> with all the money you people have... :> )
>
Probably not really a cost issue .. since the basemap becomes a
non-issue as soon as any loadable map is installed .. and most will
install maps on the 60/76 series models.
Phil
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| Ivor Jones 2006-07-24, 10:33 am |
| "Jack Erbes" <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
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> Okay, I guess that is so they can protect the outrageous
> prices they charge for the European models? And the
> perceived need to own one of each of them to operate in
> Europe and the U.S.? It's only fair I guess, with all
> the money you people have... :> )
You don't need two units. The basemap only comes into its own when you
don't have detail maps from CN or whatever loaded. For example I have maps
from both CN Europe and CN NA loaded on my 2610 and although it has the EU
basemap it works fine in California as long as you don't zoom out far
enough to fall back on the (non existent) base map. I had a bit of a
fright once when driving from San Diego to San Francisco, I got on the
freeway as the map zoomed out to maximum and went blank, to the voice
telling me 98 miles to the next turn..! Zooming back in to less than 5
miles got me the maps back..!
Ivor
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| Holger Issle 2006-07-24, 10:33 am |
| On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 11:55:14 GMT, Phil Wheeler wrote:
> Probably not really a cost issue .. since the basemap becomes a
> non-issue as soon as any loadable map is installed .. and most will
> install maps on the 60/76 series models.
Above a certain zoom factor the basemap will be displayed instead of
the detailed maps, and there was some influence on search. At least on
the US Map76S I owned compared to the Europe Map76 beforehand. But
then my needs changed and a PocketPC solution has replaced the Garmin
unit.
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95-97 KTM 620 LC4 13 Mm | seit 97 BMW R1100GS 50 Mm (Die Renndrecksau!)
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| Jack Erbes 2006-07-24, 10:33 am |
| Phil Wheeler wrote:
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> Know what you mean, Jack .. though you are too close to Quebec to be
> complacent :)
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> Phil
Right you are, I'll keep an eye open.
Although the last time they came through in any numbers they were
looking for better weather and wound up in Louisiana. A fortunate
result of that was Cajun cooking, one of my favorite styles.
We do need a good Mexican restaurant here badly though. The local ones
do not have any Mexicans visible anywhere and they are certainly not in
the kitchen.
Jack
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| Phil Wheeler 2006-07-24, 10:33 am |
| Jack Erbes wrote:
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> We do need a good Mexican restaurant here badly though. The local ones
> do not have any Mexicans visible anywhere and they are certainly not in
> the kitchen.
>
One plus of So Calif is that we can find good restaurants of almost any
ethnicity .. though that is increasingly so in most large cities in the
world.
Phil
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| Lakro Mani 2006-07-24, 3:33 pm |
| I know there are a good solution for the missing Europen basemap.
Someone has created a map that is a copy of the Atlanic Basemap (10MB)
The map is routable, like the original, and can be loaded to your GPS using
Mapsource.
Search Emule for "Atlantic Basemap" and you will find it. (mabye on other
P2P sites too"
I have a copy of it, and it works fine.
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
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> Okay, I guess that is so they can protect the outrageous prices they
> charge for the European models? And the perceived need to own one of each
> of them to operate in Europe and the U.S.? It's only fair I guess, with
> all the money you people have... :> )
>
> I'm probably confused but I was thinking that on my Magellan Meridian was
> the same way, and that basemap was loaded with the software version. But I
> guess that was not the case.
>
> As an aside, I recently noticed that Magellan is using a 20 channel SiRF
> III chipset in some of the newer models. They need to advertise that more
> loudly, it is one of the few areas where they are competing with Garmin.
>
> Jack
>
> --
> Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
> (also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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