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Nuvi 700 Series Feature Surprises
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| killtheumpire@gmail.com 2007-11-01, 10:33 am |
| I called Garmin yesterday to get a quote to repair my 2610 ($225 flat
btw) and the rep suggested I look at the new Nuvi 700 series. He said
they had put back several features relating to waypoints and Mapsource
features that the 2610 had, but they had removed from earlier Nuvi
devices. These features (that I was unclear about probably due to my
familiarity with the 2610 and lack thereof of Nuvis) were put BACK
into the Nuvi 700 series due to customer complaints and demands.
Can anyone elaborate? The 750 at a list price of $650 or so is very
tempting instead of $225 to fix an old 2610.
B
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| killtheumpire@gmail.com wrote:
> I called Garmin yesterday to get a quote to repair my 2610 ($225 flat
> btw) and the rep suggested I look at the new Nuvi 700 series. He said
> they had put back several features relating to waypoints and Mapsource
> features that the 2610 had, but they had removed from earlier Nuvi
> devices. These features (that I was unclear about probably due to my
> familiarity with the 2610 and lack thereof of Nuvis) were put BACK
> into the Nuvi 700 series due to customer complaints and demands.
>
> Can anyone elaborate? The 750 at a list price of $650 or so is very
> tempting instead of $225 to fix an old 2610.
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> B
I don't have neither StreetPilot 2610 nor Nuvi 700, but if StreetPilot is
similar to older sister StreetPilot III (I have), and Nuvi 700 is similar to
Nuvi 680 (I have), and if you don't have problem with the thickness of
StreetPilot etc.. then I would suggest to stay with StreetPilot.
Cuz Nuvi 6xx is going backwards with so many useful features removed from
old StreetPilot III, and I am guessing the newer StreetPilot series has
similar features of older StreetPilot and more.
Or I am kinda ok with my new Nuvi 680, but missing lot of useful features
of the old StreetPilot III, and if there is no problem with the beanbag and
daskboard (of my cars and mini van) and it was the only reason why I went
with Nuvi 680.
- Windshield mount because beanbag doesn't work well with my newer mini-van
and cars.
- Memory problem as my old StreetPilot III can only support up to 256MB and
I have (2) 128MB data-cards.
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| killtheumpire@gmail.com 2007-11-01, 10:33 am |
| Exactly the point, guess you didnt read my post.
Garmin told me they made the 700 more like the 2610. Wondering what
they took out, then put back in due to feedback/
B
On Nov 1, 10:10 am, Joel <J...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
> killtheump...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I don't have neither StreetPilot 2610 nor Nuvi 700, but if StreetPilot is
> similar to older sister StreetPilot III (I have), and Nuvi 700 is similar to
> Nuvi 680 (I have), and if you don't have problem with the thickness of
> StreetPilot etc.. then I would suggest to stay with StreetPilot.
>
> Cuz Nuvi 6xx is going backwards with so many useful features removed from
> old StreetPilot III, and I am guessing the newer StreetPilot series has
> similar features of older StreetPilot and more.
>
> Or I am kinda ok with my new Nuvi 680, but missing lot of useful features
> of the old StreetPilot III, and if there is no problem with the beanbag and
> daskboard (of my cars and mini van) and it was the only reason why I went
> with Nuvi 680.
>
> - Windshield mount because beanbag doesn't work well with my newer mini-van
> and cars.
>
> - Memory problem as my old StreetPilot III can only support up to 256MB and
> I have (2) 128MB data-cards.
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| Jack Erbes 2007-11-01, 10:33 am |
| killtheumpire@gmail.com wrote:
> I called Garmin yesterday to get a quote to repair my 2610 ($225 flat
> btw) and the rep suggested I look at the new Nuvi 700 series. He said
> they had put back several features relating to waypoints and Mapsource
> features that the 2610 had, but they had removed from earlier Nuvi
> devices. These features (that I was unclear about probably due to my
> familiarity with the 2610 and lack thereof of Nuvis) were put BACK
> into the Nuvi 700 series due to customer complaints and demands.
>
> Can anyone elaborate? The 750 at a list price of $650 or so is very
> tempting instead of $225 to fix an old 2610.
You can go here and check the boxes for the 750/760/770
and see the features listed. I think the difference in the models is
that the 770 has both North American and European maps, the 760 has
North America only and is Bluetooth capable, the 750 has North America
and is not Bluetooth capable:
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=134
If Garmin considers that they have added back the capabilities advanced
users had come to know and love in the models like the StreetPilot 2xxx
series, I'll be the first to tell them that they have missed the mark.
The 700 series models will handle 500 waypoints (which is not too bad)
but only 10 routes. And it does not do tracks, and does not have a
touchscreen, and does not mention multiple destination routing, does not
have a remote control, etc., etc.
To further my aggravation with them, Garmin has removed many of the
models you might want to compare with the newer models from the
discontinued products comparison page here:
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=164
So I can no longer pull up a list of the features for the 2610 in one
Window and compare that to the 700 series or any other current models in
another window. This looks like nothing more than a clumsy bordering on
stupid attempt to conceal information from potential buyers and nudge
them to the "buy it and see what you've got" school of selecting GPS
receivers.
But you can pull up the discontinued models compare page and compare the
700 series to the StreetPilot 2720 and 2730 here:
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=164
And as far as I'm concerned as long as my 2610 and 2620 are still
working I'll not buy a newer Garmin for in the car. And as long as the
supply of refurbished 2610/27xx/28xx models is around, I'll buy one of
those refurbished before I'll buy a newer model.
If you did not know it, the 2610 refurbs come with a same as new one
year warranty. And may come with the newest mapping if you query the
seller carefully. And street prices on refurbs eBay and from Internet
sellers makes the refurb a better deal than getting the flat rate repair
(which will only have a 90 day warranty).
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| You can always buy a 2610 refurb on Ebay for less than 200$.. Just
another option..
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 06:10:59 -0700, killtheumpire@gmail.com wrote:
>I called Garmin yesterday to get a quote to repair my 2610 ($225 flat
>btw) and the rep suggested I look at the new Nuvi 700 series. He said
>they had put back several features relating to waypoints and Mapsource
>features that the 2610 had, but they had removed from earlier Nuvi
>devices. These features (that I was unclear about probably due to my
>familiarity with the 2610 and lack thereof of Nuvis) were put BACK
>into the Nuvi 700 series due to customer complaints and demands.
>
>Can anyone elaborate? The 750 at a list price of $650 or so is very
>tempting instead of $225 to fix an old 2610.
>
>B
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| Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
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> You can go here and check the boxes for the 750/760/770
> and see the features listed. I think the difference in the models is
> that the 770 has both North American and European maps, the 760 has
> North America only and is Bluetooth capable, the 750 has North America
> and is not Bluetooth capable:
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> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=134
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> If Garmin considers that they have added back the capabilities advanced
> users had come to know and love in the models like the StreetPilot 2xxx
> series, I'll be the first to tell them that they have missed the mark.
>
> The 700 series models will handle 500 waypoints (which is not too bad)
> but only 10 routes. And it does not do tracks, and does not have a
> touchscreen, and does not mention multiple destination routing, does not
> have a remote control, etc., etc.
I miss the route a little but not much, and what I am missing of
StreetPilot III are.
- Better on bright sun (but I can live with Nuvi glare issue which won't
kill me)
- Larger, quicker, more accurate STATUS like "speed", "arrival time" and the
"ARROW" pointing to the next destination, next turn etc.
- POI symbols display on screen no available on the Nuvi 680. I read
someone mentions Nuvi 6xx can display POI symbol but so far I don't see none
and I have zoomed in to its max.
And what I like about Nuvi is the size, windshield-mount, I can enter any
address from anywhere. Orther than that I am kinda disappointed with what
Garmin does to the expensive GPS.
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| On Nov 1, 11:13 am, Jack Erbes <jacker...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> killtheump...@gmail.com wrote:
> The 700 series models will handle 500 waypoints (which is not too bad)
> but only 10 routes. And it does not do tracks, and does not have a
> touchscreen, and does not mention multiple destination routing, does not
> have a remote control, etc., etc.
Jack,
The nuvi 700 series can record tracks, has a touchscreen, and does
multi-destination routing.
Rich Owings
http://gpstracklog.typepad.com
http://gpstrackingsystems.biz
http:/gpsjobmarket.com
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| Jack Erbes 2007-11-02, 3:33 pm |
| Rich wrote:
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> Jack,
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> The nuvi 700 series can record tracks, has a touchscreen, and does
> multi-destination routing.
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> Rich Owings
Okay. I'll grant you a dissenting opinion. Did you buy one?
It says it will optimize a route, will also let you have a not optimized
route if that is what your want? It is all just too obscure.
I looked the list of features that results from the compare page and
drew some conclusions. I could download a manual and try to glean all
the details from it but they make a lot of mistakes there too so it just
ain't worth the trouble.
You pretty much have to buy one to figure it out.
And thanks for the input. I'm flaming or fighting here, just talking
about how hard it can be to figure it all out.
Jack
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"Rich" <richowings@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193961472.898050.67770@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
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: The nuvi 700 series can record tracks, has a touchscreen, and does
: multi-destination routing.
How's the reception now that it's using the built-in antenna compared to
the flip version in the previous Nuvis?
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| On Nov 2, 4:21 pm, Jack Erbes <jac...@midmaine.com> wrote:
> Okay. I'll grant you a dissenting opinion. Did you buy one?
Haven't yet. I think I'll wait and see what 2008 brings before I
upgrade.
> It says it will optimize a route, will also let you have a not optimized
> route if that is what your want? It is all just too obscure.
It will let you do either. I agree, it's not easy to figure it all
out.
> And thanks for the input. I'm flaming or fighting here, just talking
> about how hard it can be to figure it all out.
You're welcome. We're all just sharing information here.
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| On Nov 3, 4:32 am, "Sam" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> How's the reception now that it's using the built-in antenna compared to
> the flip version in the previous Nuvis?
I've heard that it's good, but not quite as good as the flip up type.
Rich
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Thanks Rich, do you have any reference material to support this? I
personally believe that in general, an external antenna provides better
reception than an internal antenna. At this point, the gang at
GPSPassions don't seem to agree that there is a difference in the
reception:
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/...48&whichpage=50
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| Edwin Pawlowski 2007-11-04, 3:33 pm |
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"Sam" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> I
> personally believe that in general, an external antenna provides better
> reception than an internal antenna.
I personally believe that in general, a well designed antenna provides
better reception than a lesser one, regardless of position. Many factors
will affect performance.
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
news:GpqXi.52897$RX.14457@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
: I personally believe that in general, a well designed antenna provides
: better reception than a lesser one, regardless of position. Many
factors
: will affect performance.
It doesn't appear that the newly designed internal is well designed
then. Take a look at a post from reddogg634 on GPS Passions:
http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/...48&whichpage=51
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| Rich wrote:[color=darkred
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Thanks Rich for the link. I am still troubled by Garmin's prompts on
highways and exits. This was my experience with my Nuvi but some people
here at the time didn't find that an issue. Unfortunately, it still is
even today.
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| Edwin Pawlowski 2007-11-05, 10:33 pm |
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"Sam" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> It doesn't appear that the newly designed internal is well designed
> then. Take a look at a post from reddogg634 on GPS Passions:
> http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/...48&whichpage=51
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If that is typical, it is not an improvement at all.
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| Edwin Pawlowski wrote:[color=darkred
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I know, that's why I may very likely buy the 6xx when on clearance.
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| Anne Marra Doran 2007-11-09, 4:33 am |
| On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:28:36 GMT, Sam wrote:
> I know, that's why I may very likely buy the 6xx when on clearance.
Be careful. The nuvi 6xx has many flaws. While the hardware is almost
flawless, the software is neolithic compared to what you'd expect.
The nuvi 6xx series
* can't accept zip codes for heaven's sake
* can't save tracks
* can't route multiple destinations
* can't easily choose between fastest and shortest route
* doesn't have an easily controllable bluetooth
* can't order waypoints the way you'd want them ordered
* can't allow route management on the computer
* doesn't allow you to download map updates easily
* has a tinny sound from the MP3 player
* can't reverse routes
* can't insert multiple vias
* can't run from the mini usb port
* often hangs forever on bluetooth especially when disconnecting
* often hangs forever on searching for points of interest
* has a wholly unusable and unintuitive search mechanism
* is filled with useless buttons that don't do anything useful
* has a simulator with only one speed making it almost useless
* does not pair well with my telephone (a pretty common phone)
* forces you to hit the back button multiple times just to get to the map
Does anyone know if the new nuvi 7xx series resolves any of these 20 flaws?
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| Just_a_fan@home.net 2007-12-19, 10:33 pm |
| My nuvi (with all its faults) works inside a cement parking structure. I
am amazed at its built-in antenna.
Mike
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:48:55 GMT, in sci.geo.satellite-nav "Sam"
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>Rich wrote:
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>Thanks Rich, do you have any reference material to support this? I
>personally believe that in general, an external antenna provides better
>reception than an internal antenna. At this point, the gang at
>GPSPassions don't seem to agree that there is a difference in the
>reception:
>http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/...48&whichpage=50
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