Garmin GPS - Map Update 2008 and Streetpilot C330 Limited Memory

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Map Update 2008 and Streetpilot C330 Limited Memory

danbos

2007-11-18, 12:33 pm

I just bought the SP c330 unit and purchased the Map Update 2008 City
Navigator North America NT DVD disk

When I downloaded the disk to the unit, there was a warning that the
c330 had only limited memory and that I could choose to download the
48 US continuous states and Puerto Rico OR Canada and some US border
states.

The reason I bought the update was to have the maps of ALL OF NORTH
AMERICA on the unit. Now I am stuck with only partial maps of North
America. I would like to return to the original, pre-loaded maps that
came with the unit if I can. I will have to contact Garmin and find
out.

It seems pretty stupid on Garmin's part to have an update disk for all
of North America and when you download the disk, you have only partial
coverage.I have downloaded Canadian maps, but if I drive to the US,
then what??

Anyone else have a similar problem?

Frank Tabor

2007-11-18, 12:33 pm

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:28:38 -0800 (PST), danbos <danbosvac@aol.com>
wrote:

>I just bought the SP c330 unit and purchased the Map Update 2008 City
>Navigator North America NT DVD disk
>
>When I downloaded the disk to the unit, there was a warning that the
>c330 had only limited memory and that I could choose to download the
>48 US continuous states and Puerto Rico OR Canada and some US border
>states.
>
>The reason I bought the update was to have the maps of ALL OF NORTH
>AMERICA on the unit. Now I am stuck with only partial maps of North
>America. I would like to return to the original, pre-loaded maps that
>came with the unit if I can. I will have to contact Garmin and find
>out.
>
>It seems pretty stupid on Garmin's part to have an update disk for all
>of North America and when you download the disk, you have only partial
>coverage.I have downloaded Canadian maps, but if I drive to the US,
>then what??
>
>
>Anyone else have a similar problem?

Get yourself a 1 gb SD card and using your map uploader, add the rest
of the maps to the SD card using a card reader.. Then insert in the
unit and restart, all of NA will be available to you. The c340 has
enough memory to hold all of NA, the c300 doesn't.

BTW, that up date disc is for all of Garmin products, not just the
C330.
--
Frank Tabor

Say What?

2007-11-18, 12:33 pm

danbos wrote:
> I just bought the SP c330 unit and purchased the Map Update 2008 City
> Navigator North America NT DVD disk
>
> When I downloaded the disk to the unit, there was a warning that the
> c330 had only limited memory and that I could choose to download the
> 48 US continuous states and Puerto Rico OR Canada and some US border
> states.
>
> The reason I bought the update was to have the maps of ALL OF NORTH
> AMERICA on the unit. Now I am stuck with only partial maps of North
> America. I would like to return to the original, pre-loaded maps that
> came with the unit if I can. I will have to contact Garmin and find
> out.
>
> It seems pretty stupid on Garmin's part to have an update disk for all
> of North America and when you download the disk, you have only partial
> coverage.I have downloaded Canadian maps, but if I drive to the US,
> then what??

Using the selection tool in MapSource, merely select all the Canadian
provinces you need and then add whatever areas in the States that you
want/need. Okay, so you won't be able to load everything. Do you
really need to? Planning on driving from, say, Quebec to San Juan
Puerto Rico, to Dallas/Fort Worth, up to Minneapolis and then to Los
Angeles and on to Maui? <g>

I had the same problem with my 2610 and a 1 gigabyte flash card. Just
not enough room to load the entire City Navigator mapset at one time. I
had a spare CF card so I loaded everything from the west coast to east
on one (loading as much as I could) and on the other, everything from
the east coast to west. I figured if by some quirk of fate I wound up
driving the great race from NY to LA I could probably find a spare
moment as I drove through St Louis to swap out cards<g>

Brian

2007-11-18, 3:33 pm

Below is a copy of a previous post outlining the process of using a SD card
to load all of the maps. I have not personally tried it, but I held on to
this post just in case I decide to do so.
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From: <budman@frozenorth.ca>
Subject: C330 map update
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:16 AM

I posted the following on http://www.poi-factory.com/node/6240 last night,
after
an exhausting day of trial but surprisingly, no error!
____________________
_________________

c330 2008 map update
I have just finished installing ALL of the Map Update 2008 City Navigator
North
America NT on my Garmin C330. Once I got my head around what was actually
happening, I'd like to outline the procedure.

The 2008 CD installs a program called "MapInstall" on your computer to be
used
later. Don't forget.

-Your are asked to select between Canada (incl. Alaska & northern border
states)
OR lower 49 states (incl. Puerto Rico), which replaces the map info in the
C330.

-Now then, I have tried BOTH, but which one you load depends on what size of
SD
card you have, or want to buy. I can tell you that if you load the US/Puerto
Rico map, you can put ALL of Canada on a 512 mb SD card. If you load
Canada/Alaska, you can get away with a 1-gig SD card, but I had a 2-gig.

-At any rate, after loading your map, you will go to the program
"MapInstall".
Do NOT put the SD card in your GPS, but make sure it's on & the USB cable
attached. I have a Lexar USB SD card reader. When you start MapInstall, you
will
see both devices. Select the "Removable disk". You then have to select each
state or province individually to 'create' your 'secondary' map. It's easier
to
zoom in a bit on the North American map. When your selection is done, you
send
the info to the SD card in the USB reader. This takes some time, about 45
minutes to an hour.

When it's finished, remove the SD card from the reader & install it in the
slot
of the GPS. That's all there is. You do NOT have to select either map. You
end
up with a seamless North American/Puerto Rico map just like before. You'd
never
know that you had changed anything. All your previous waypoints etc are
there.

Like I said, I loaded Canada to the GPS, then the US to the SD card. I just
selected my friend's place in Lake Worth Florida as a destination. I touched
"Show Map" before Go! and voila, there it was, 2485.1 km away. I then
removed
the SD card and the mapping goes away. Stick it in & you're back in
business. I
don't know why I'd want to take it out from now on. I download the Florida
waypoint from MapSource, so your POi's must be on the GPS proper.

Since I only have the Canadian map on the GPS itself, I've got room to store
more POi's than this website can provide!

--
-Brian
"Frank Tabor" <ftabornunya@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:28:38 -0800 (PST), danbos <danbosvac@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Get yourself a 1 gb SD card and using your map uploader, add the rest
> of the maps to the SD card using a card reader.. Then insert in the
> unit and restart, all of NA will be available to you. The c340 has
> enough memory to hold all of NA, the c300 doesn't.
>
> BTW, that up date disc is for all of Garmin products, not just the
> C330.
> --
> Frank Tabor

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-24, 4:33 am

On Nov 18, 11:34 am, "Brian" < bpollak@_no_spam_hot
mail.com> wrote:
> Below is a copy of a previous post outlining the process of using a SD card
> to load all of the maps. I have not personally tried it, but I held on to
> this post just in case I decide to do so.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: <bud...@frozenorth.ca>
> Subject: C330 map update
> Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:16 AM
>
> I posted the following onhttp://www.poi-factory.com/node/6240last night,
> after
> an exhausting day of trial but surprisingly, no error!
> ____________________
_________________
>
> c330 2008 map update
> I have just finished installing ALL of the Map Update 2008 City Navigator
> North
> America NT on my Garmin C330. Once I got my head around what was actually
> happening, I'd like to outline the procedure.
>
> The 2008 CD installs a program called "MapInstall" on your computer to be
> used
> later. Don't forget.
>
> -Your are asked to select between Canada (incl. Alaska & northern border
> states)
> OR lower 49 states (incl. Puerto Rico), which replaces the map info in the
> C330.
>
> -Now then, I have tried BOTH, but which one you load depends on what size of
> SD
> card you have, or want to buy. I can tell you that if you load the US/Puerto
> Rico map, you can put ALL of Canada on a 512 mb SD card. If you load
> Canada/Alaska, you can get away with a 1-gig SD card, but I had a 2-gig.
>
> -At any rate, after loading your map, you will go to the program
> "MapInstall".
> Do NOT put the SD card in your GPS, but make sure it's on & the USB cable
> attached. I have a Lexar USB SD card reader. When you start MapInstall, you
> will
> see both devices. Select the "Removable disk". You then have to select each
> state or province individually to 'create' your 'secondary' map. It's easier
> to
> zoom in a bit on the North American map. When your selection is done, you
> send
> the info to the SD card in the USB reader. This takes some time, about 45
> minutes to an hour.
>
> When it's finished, remove the SD card from the reader & install it in the
> slot
> of the GPS. That's all there is. You do NOT have to select either map. You
> end
> up with a seamless North American/Puerto Rico map just like before. You'd
> never
> know that you had changed anything. All your previous waypoints etc are
> there.
>
> Like I said, I loaded Canada to the GPS, then the US to the SD card. I just
> selected my friend's place in Lake Worth Florida as a destination. I touched
> "Show Map" before Go! and voila, there it was, 2485.1 km away. I then
> removed
> the SD card and the mapping goes away. Stick it in & you're back in
> business. I
> don't know why I'd want to take it out from now on. I download the Florida
> waypoint from MapSource, so your POi's must be on the GPS proper.
>
> Since I only have the Canadian map on the GPS itself, I've got room to store
> more POi's than this website can provide!
>
> --
> -Brian"Frank Tabor" <ftabornu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:rnu0k3p44hhn5cu
1e0dc20fibo1li1jhle@
4ax.com...
>
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I'm in a similar situation. Talk about getting a SURPRISE....I just
bought a C530 and thought I was being super smart buying the Map
Update 2008 as well.

Realizing that North America was already installed on my C530 I
thought that Update 2008 was simply just an update and adding
corrections as necessary.

I opened the program only to find I was told I didn't have sufficient
memory even though it was recommended by Garmin.

I thought "Oh heck" I'll simply update the lower 48 states and proceed
letting Canada remain as is.

Never in my wildest dreams did I guess that it would completely NUKE
the Canada that had came preloaded when I bought it.

Now I can only navigate in the good old U.S. of A.

I'm at a loss as to what to do next. There has been talk of loading
Canada on a SD and using the external slot on the unit but I haven't
got a clue as to how to do it. Any suggestions? I downloaded MapSource
from Garmin's website but it won't open for me....possibly because the
C530 isn't connected or the Update 2008 CD isn't in the CD-ROM drive?

I'm not a computer guru and will need someone to lead me by the hand.
I will have to buy aa SD card but what type and also a CD card reader
that I can plug it into?

Jeffrey Kaplan

2007-11-24, 4:33 am

Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, danbos said:

> I just bought the SP c330 unit and purchased the Map Update 2008 City
> Navigator North America NT DVD disk
>
> When I downloaded the disk to the unit, there was a warning that the
> c330 had only limited memory and that I could choose to download the
> 48 US continuous states and Puerto Rico OR Canada and some US border
> states.
>
> The reason I bought the update was to have the maps of ALL OF NORTH
> AMERICA on the unit. Now I am stuck with only partial maps of North

You already had ALL OF NORTH AMERICA on the unit. It was just with
last year's map data. If you had "just bought" the unit, why didn't
you contact Garmin to see if you qualified for a free map upgrade?

If you had checked with Garmin about getting the update, you would have
been told that you cannot fit all of the new map data onto it because
of the size difference. The c330 has a 1G drive, and the new map data
for both USA and Canada is larger than that.

> America. I would like to return to the original, pre-loaded maps that
> came with the unit if I can. I will have to contact Garmin and find
> out.

Or install the rest of the maps onto an SD card, as Brian explained.

> It seems pretty stupid on Garmin's part to have an update disk for all
> of North America and when you download the disk, you have only partial
> coverage.I have downloaded Canadian maps, but if I drive to the US,
> then what??

It's only too big for the older models like the c330. The newer models
have larger drives and can store the entire set. Also, when you
installed the Canadian maps, they included the US "Border States", so
you do have the northern most tier of US states at the least.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

"Six thousand years of recorded history, a history that includes
remarkable composers, astonishing symphonies, but what is the one song
that half of them sing to their children generation after generation?
'You put your right hand in; you put your right hand out...'" (Amb.
Mollari, B5 "A Voice In The Wilderness I")

>
> Anyone else have a similar problem?

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-24, 10:33 am

On Nov 23, 9:38 pm, corcl...@telus.net wrote:
> On Nov 18, 11:34 am, "Brian" < bpollak@_no_spam_hot
mail.com> wrote:
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> I'm in a similar situation. Talk about getting a SURPRISE....I just
> bought a C530 and thought I was being super smart buying the Map
> Update 2008 as well.
>
> Realizing that North America was already installed on my C530 I
> thought that Update 2008 was simply just an update and adding
> corrections as necessary.
>
> I opened the program only to find I was told I didn't have sufficient
> memory even though it was recommended by Garmin.
>
> I thought "Oh heck" I'll simply update the lower 48 states and proceed
> letting Canada remain as is.
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> Never in my wildest dreams did I guess that it would completely NUKE
> the Canada that had came preloaded when I bought it.
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> Now I can only navigate in the good old U.S. of A.
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> I'm at a loss as to what to do next. There has been talk of loading
> Canada on a SD and using the external slot on the unit but I haven't
> got a clue as to how to do it. Any suggestions? I downloaded MapSource
> from Garmin's website but it won't open for me....possibly because the
> C530 isn't connected or the Update 2008 CD isn't in the CD-ROM drive?
>
> I'm not a computer guru and will need someone to lead me by the hand.
> I will have to buy aa SD card but what type and also a CD card reader
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I'm going to attempt to load what I am now missing onto a SD and
please correct me if I am wrong or offer advice.

[A]. The Map Update 2008 that I bought says "This Udate DVD supports
updating one Garmin unit."

As I have already loaded the lower 48 states into internal memory can
I assume that if I now choose to load Canada, border states, etc into
internal memory it's two strikes and your out? Obviously this move
will obilterate the lower 48 states. What I mean by this is that if I
then wanted to load the lower 48 states on the SD It may not be
allowed as the CD has been used as per "This Update.........Garmin
unit."?

[B]. Let's say I leave the 48 states in internal memory and not rock
the boat. I now want to load the Canada, etc. update onto a SD.
Brian's posting says:

< At any rate, after loading your map, you will go to the program
"MapInstall". >

How do you load the map? Do I put the Map Update 2008 CD back into my
CD-ROM drive with the C530 hooked up to the USB port? Just for
interest sake without the GPS attached I tried inserting the disc and
this is the message I eventually get:

1. Turn on your Garmin GPS.
2. Connect GPS to computer with USB cable.
3. If the "Found new hardware wizard" appears.......Windows will
complete the installation........click NEXT on this page to continue.

Brian then says:

< Do NOT put the SD card in your GPS, but make sure it's on & the USB
cable
attached. I have a Lexar USB SD card reader. When you start
MapInstall, you
will
see both devices. Select the "Removable disk". You then have to select
each
state or province individually to 'create' your 'secondary' map. It's
easier
to
zoom in a bit on the North American map. When your selection is done,
you
send
the info to the SD card in the USB reader. This takes some time, about
45
minutes to an hour. >

[C]. This is where the posting above gets foggy for me....I obviously
have some sort of map preloaded from somewhere that I can zoom in on?
Is the Map Update CD 2008 being used?

[D]. If I can get to this point in Brian's posting I will be more
than happy.....I would have no problem seeing the unit on my dash with
an SD card sticking out of the memory slot.

< When it's finished, remove the SD card from the reader & install it
in the
slot
of the GPS. That's all there is. You do NOT have to select either map.
You
end
up with a seamless North American/Puerto Rico map just like before.
You'd
never
know that you had changed anything. All your previous waypoints etc
are
there. >

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-24, 12:33 pm

I guess I could make it simpler by just asking if someone would be
kind enough to give me a step by step outline as to how I can transfer
the balance of my Map Update 2008 (Canada, Alaska, etc) to an SD that
I can then plug into my C530. I've opened MapSource and followed thru
with my unlock code.....my C530 is also registered with Garmin.

Thanks

Jeffrey Kaplan

2007-11-24, 3:33 pm

Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, corcliff@telus.net said:

> As I have already loaded the lower 48 states into internal memory can
> I assume that if I now choose to load Canada, border states, etc into
> internal memory it's two strikes and your out? Obviously this move
> will obilterate the lower 48 states. What I mean by this is that if I
> then wanted to load the lower 48 states on the SD It may not be
> allowed as the CD has been used as per "This Update.........Garmin
> unit."?

That is what Garmin wants you to believe.

> [B]. Let's say I leave the 48 states in internal memory and not rock
> the boat. I now want to load the Canada, etc. update onto a SD.
> Brian's posting says:
>
> < At any rate, after loading your map, you will go to the program
> "MapInstall". >
>
> How do you load the map? Do I put the Map Update 2008 CD back into my
> CD-ROM drive with the C530 hooked up to the USB port? Just for

Load the SD card you want to use into a card reader and connect to your
computer. Then just run the MapInstall program that the updater put on
your computer. It will search for a device and find your SD card. Tell
it to use it, then the rest should be obvious. I did not even need to
have my Garmin unit plugged in.

You're not updating anything at this point, you're installing extra
maps to an SD card.

If you live in the USA, I recommend you leave the continental US on the
internal storage and install the Canadian maps, etc, onto the card. I
was able to install all of Canada, Alaska and Hawaii onto a 128M card I
had laying around.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

"Six thousand years of recorded history, a history that includes
remarkable composers, astonishing symphonies, but what is the one song
that half of them sing to their children generation after generation?
'You put your right hand in; you put your right hand out...'" (Amb.
Mollari, B5 "A Voice In The Wilderness I")

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-24, 3:33 pm

On Nov 24, 10:52 am, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom...@gordol.org> wrote:
> Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, corcl...@telus.net said:
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> Load the SD card you want to use into a card reader and connect to your
> computer. Then just run the MapInstall program that the updater put on
> your computer. It will search for a device and find your SD card. Tell
> it to use it, then the rest should be obvious. I did not even need to
> have my Garmin unit plugged in.
>
> You're not updating anything at this point, you're installing extra
> maps to an SD card.
>
> If you live in the USA, I recommend you leave the continental US on the
> internal storage and install the Canadian maps, etc, onto the card. I
> was able to install all of Canada, Alaska and Hawaii onto a 128M card I
> had laying around.
>
> --
> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
> The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol
>
> "Six thousand years of recorded history, a history that includes
> remarkable composers, astonishing symphonies, but what is the one song
> that half of them sing to their children generation after generation?
> 'You put your right hand in; you put your right hand out...'" (Amb.
> Mollari, B5 "A Voice In The Wilderness I")

Thanks for your reply....I ran down to the Source (old Canadian Radio
Shack) and bought a 2gb SD card and a card reader.

I followed your instructions and when I open MapSource I get the
message saying:

" MapSource could not find any MapSource map products. Please install
one or more MapSource map products and start MapSouce again."

Still can't figure how I can get the Canada update from the Map Update
2008 CD to the SD card?

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-24, 3:33 pm

On Nov 24, 11:29 am, corcl...@telus.net wrote:
> On Nov 24, 10:52 am, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom...@gordol.org> wrote:
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> message saying:
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> " MapSource could not find any MapSource map products. Please install
> one or more MapSource map products and start MapSouce again."
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Just relaized we are talking about two different things MapSource and
Mapinstall.....I can find Mapinstall any where under programs. Is this
program automatically installed when you open the Map Update 2008 CD?
Where do you look for it?

Frank Tabor

2007-11-24, 3:33 pm

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:32:11 -0800 (PST), corcliff@telus.net wrote:

>On Nov 24, 11:29 am, corcl...@telus.net wrote:
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>Just relaized we are talking about two different things MapSource and
>Mapinstall.....I can find Mapinstall any where under programs. Is this
>program automatically installed when you open the Map Update 2008 CD?
>Where do you look for it?

It should have installed when you did the update to your GPS unit.
--
Frank Tabor

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-24, 3:33 pm

On Nov 24, 11:45 am, Frank Tabor <ftabornu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:32:11 -0800 (PST), corcl...@telus.net wrote:
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Hi Frank.

I just did a search on XP for Mapinstall and it's not there. Would you
suggest I reinsert the Garmin CD, hook up the C530 and start over
again? I don't know if I might have missed checking a box to have
Mapinstall installed?

Also it would be more convenient for me to have the Canada / USA
border states installed on the internal memory but do you think I then
may not be able to install the lower 49 states on the SD card when I
figure out how to do it.

Cliff

Han

2007-11-24, 3:33 pm

corcliff@telus.net wrote in news:1ba4f0ab-0198-4aa4-a65e-dfcabf010b44
@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> Hi Frank.
>
> I just did a search on XP for Mapinstall and it's not there. Would you
> suggest I reinsert the Garmin CD, hook up the C530 and start over
> again? I don't know if I might have missed checking a box to have
> Mapinstall installed?
>
> Also it would be more convenient for me to have the Canada / USA
> border states installed on the internal memory but do you think I then
> may not be able to install the lower 49 states on the SD card when I
> figure out how to do it.
>
> Cliff

On my Vista Home Basic laptop with the Garmin Topo 2008 program there is no
Mapinstall either. I have now a GSP60CSx, and gave it a 2GB micro SD card
(Sandisk) from Staples ($18 + tax on Black Friday).

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-24, 10:33 pm

On Nov 24, 12:53 pm, Han <nob...@nospam.not> wrote:
> corcl...@telus.net wrote in news:1ba4f0ab-0198-4aa4-a65e-dfcabf010b44
> @e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
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> Mapinstall either. I have now a GSP60CSx, and gave it a 2GB micro SD card
> (Sandisk) from Staples ($18 + tax on Black Friday).
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid

I opened up the Map Update 2008 CD using 'my computer' just to see
what was actually on the disc. There is a nice tutorial with voice
that shows how to select individual maps and either load them to your
GPS or on to an SD disc. No option to instal Mapinstall.

There has to be a way I can upload what I need from the Garmin CD onto
my SD disc?

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-24, 10:33 pm

On Nov 24, 1:36 pm, corcl...@telus.net wrote:
> On Nov 24, 12:53 pm, Han <nob...@nospam.not> wrote:
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> what was actually on the disc. There is a nice tutorial with voice
> that shows how to select individual maps and either load them to your
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Hi Frank,

I went to Garmin's website found Mapinstall downloaded it and I now
have the program on my computer. Still no luck, when I run the program
I still get an error message:

"MapInstall could not find any installed products. Please install one
or more MapSource products and start MapInstall again."

I had my SD card plugged in as you suggested.....still can't figure
out how the maps I'm missing can be transfered to the SD if the Map
Update CD 2008 isn't used somehow? The maps that it contains haven't
been copied to my hard drive?

Cliff

Jeffrey Kaplan

2007-11-24, 10:33 pm

Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, corcliff@telus.net said:

> I went to Garmin's website found Mapinstall downloaded it and I now
> have the program on my computer. Still no luck, when I run the program
> I still get an error message:
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> or more MapSource products and start MapInstall again."
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> I had my SD card plugged in as you suggested.....still can't figure
> out how the maps I'm missing can be transfered to the SD if the Map
> Update CD 2008 isn't used somehow? The maps that it contains haven't
> been copied to my hard drive?

This is how/why it worked for me:

Shortly after I got my c330 last spring, I got Garmin to send me a copy
of MapSource, which I then installed on my XP desktop. I primarily use
it to manage/back up my Favorites on my desktop.

A month or so ago, I was finally able to convince the CSR at Garmin to
send me the 2008 map updater at no charge since I had purchased my GPS
unit less than a year ago, and less than six months since I started
trying to get the update. Installing the update automatically
installed "MapInstall" onto my desktop as part of the upgrade process.
As I recall, I did not have a choice in the matter. I kept it
installed when I was done so that if needed at some future time, if I
decided to make a trip to Canada, I could swap maps.

Last week, I ran MapInstall, with an SD card in a reader, to install
the Canadian maps onto an SD card, and it just simply worked.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

Tips for the Evil Henchman: 23. Don't let the Evil Overlord use you as
a lab animal.

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-24, 10:33 pm

On Nov 24, 2:46 pm, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom...@gordol.org> wrote:
> Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, corcl...@telus.net said:
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> of MapSource, which I then installed on my XP desktop. I primarily use
> it to manage/back up my Favorites on my desktop.
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> A month or so ago, I was finally able to convince the CSR at Garmin to
> send me the 2008 map updater at no charge since I had purchased my GPS
> unit less than a year ago, and less than six months since I started
> trying to get the update. Installing the update automatically
> installed "MapInstall" onto my desktop as part of the upgrade process.
> As I recall, I did not have a choice in the matter. I kept it
> installed when I was done so that if needed at some future time, if I
> decided to make a trip to Canada, I could swap maps.
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> Last week, I ran MapInstall, with an SD card in a reader, to install
> the Canadian maps onto an SD card, and it just simply worked.
>
> --
> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
> The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol
>
> Tips for the Evil Henchman: 23. Don't let the Evil Overlord use you as
> a lab animal.

Hi Jeff,

The CD that I bought from Amazon is "Map Update 2008 City Navigator
North America NT" Is this the same as what Garmin sent you?

With this CD the C530 must be attched to the computer with a USB
cable. When the program opens it recognizes the GPS and the maps can
only be installed to that specific unit.

It doesn't install MapInstall at the same time. If the internal memory
of the unit isn't large enough to download all the maps it should
allow you to at least download the unused portion to a SD disc. The CD
was bought and paid for with good old $'s and the consumer has the
right to use all it contains.

Cliff

Jerry M

2007-11-24, 10:33 pm

On Nov 24, 12:38 am, corcl...@telus.net wrote:
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> thought that Update 2008 was simply just an update and adding
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> Canada on a SD and using the external slot on the unit but I haven't
> got a clue as to how to do it. Any suggestions? I downloaded MapSource
> from Garmin's website but it won't open for me....possibly because the
> C530 isn't connected or the Update 2008 CD isn't in the CD-ROM drive?
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> I'm not a computer guru and will need someone to lead me by the hand.
> I will have to buy aa SD card but what type and also a CD card reader
> that I can plug it into?

To me it is obvious that the people here that can't load maps from
MapSource or Mapinstall never installed full install version of
version NT 8 on their computers. If they had installed it on their
computers it would automatically get updated first from the NT 2008
update disk before updating unit. If they did not have a full install
version disk to install on computer they should have called garmin to
see if they would have sent them the disk. Then there would be no
problem making mapsets from MapSorce or Mapinstall to download to
cards.
Jerry

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-24, 10:33 pm

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> update disk before updating unit. If they did not have a full install
> version disk to install on computer they should have called garmin to
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Hi Jerry,

Let's take pity on the poor consumer, namely me, who buys the C530 in
good faith and then, in good faith, the Map Update 2008 in order to
update the mapping software on the C530. Where does it say in the
instructions:

< If they did not have a full install
version disk to install on computer they should have called garmin to
see if they would have sent them the disk. >

Have I missed something in the fine print? Looks like I will be
calling Garmin on Monday. I appreciate everyone's attempts to try and
help me out.

Cliff

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-25, 4:33 am

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Not to belabor the point I went back to Amazon for a product
description of what I bought as you can see it claims you can download
the program to your PC.

Product Description
Garmin 0101098900 Update City Navigator North America NT. This map
update DVD offers full coverage of North America United States, Canada
and Puerto Rico. This new generation of Garmin Map Update allows a
simple and convenient way to update the detailed maps and the latest
of over 6 million points of interest in your NT compatible Garmin
product.

Product Description
With time comes change. When using GPS units you may encounter new
roads and varying points of interest. Updating your Garmin GPS device
keeps you current. This Garmin Map 2008 DVD software offers full
coverage of North America - United States, Canada and Puerto Rico.
Software may be loaded to a Macintosh or PC computer. Then you can
simply transfer it to your compatible Garmin GPS device. In small
ways, there are changes in towns, on roadways, and practically
everywhere. Know where you're going and how to get there. Drive
safely. PC - Windows 2000 or newer; 256 MB RAM, at least 800x600
display, 16-bit color monitor; 2GB free disk space, USB port, DVD
drive Mac - Any Intel-based Mac or PowerPC G3 or later Mac, 256 MB
RAM, Mac OS X 10.4 or later, 1024x768 display, 2GB free disk space,
USB port, DVD drive

Jeffrey Kaplan

2007-11-25, 12:33 pm

Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, corcliff@telus.net said:

> The CD that I bought from Amazon is "Map Update 2008 City Navigator
> North America NT" Is this the same as what Garmin sent you?

Yes it is.

> With this CD the C530 must be attched to the computer with a USB
> cable. When the program opens it recognizes the GPS and the maps can
> only be installed to that specific unit.

Yes. When updating the GPS unit itself, that is the process.

> It doesn't install MapInstall at the same time. If the internal memory
> of the unit isn't large enough to download all the maps it should
> allow you to at least download the unused portion to a SD disc. The CD
> was bought and paid for with good old $'s and the consumer has the
> right to use all it contains.

Technically, you're demanding that because you're paying for 20 dollars
worth of gas, you should be able to put it all into a 15 gallon tank.
Using this analogy, I was able to come back later with a gas can and
walk away with my other 5 gallons.

The only reason why I can think this would not work is that for some
reason, you did not do a full install of the software. Perhaps if you
re-ran the update installer, you can find options you missed last time.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

Tips for the Evil Henchman: 23. Don't let the Evil Overlord use you as
a lab animal.

Jerry M

2007-11-25, 10:33 pm

On Nov 25, 1:10 pm, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom...@gordol.org> wrote:
> Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, corcl...@telus.net said:
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> worth of gas, you should be able to put it all into a 15 gallon tank.
> Using this analogy, I was able to come back later with a gas can and
> walk away with my other 5 gallons.
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> The only reason why I can think this would not work is that for some
> reason, you did not do a full install of the software. Perhaps if you
> re-ran the update installer, you can find options you missed last time.
>
> --
> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
> The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol
>
> Tips for the Evil Henchman: 23. Don't let the Evil Overlord use you as
> a lab animal.

There will be no full install on MapSource from the update disk if no
previous full version was installed. I think only his unit was fully
loaded but did not have dvd with the unit to install it into
MapSource.
Jerry

Jeffrey Kaplan

2007-11-25, 10:33 pm

Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, Jerry M said:

> There will be no full install on MapSource from the update disk if no
> previous full version was installed. I think only his unit was fully
> loaded but did not have dvd with the unit to install it into
> MapSource.

So you think the lack of MapSource on his desktop is why he's unable to
install the other maps onto a card?

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that
we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
public." - Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States

Jerry M

2007-11-25, 10:33 pm

On Nov 25, 7:32 pm, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom...@gordol.org> wrote:
> Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, Jerry M said:
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> install the other maps onto a card?
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> --
> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
> The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol
>
> "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that
> we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only
> unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American
> public." - Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States

Yes if you do not have any maps loaded in MapSource you will not be
able to load maps to a card. The maps loaded in MapSource are the same
maps Mapinstall would use to load to a card also. He would have to
have nt version 8 loaded in MapSource for nt version 2008 to update in
MapSource or previous full install of nt version 7 or 8.
Jerry

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-25, 10:33 pm

On Nov 25, 4:32 pm, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom...@gordol.org> wrote:
> Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, Jerry M said:
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> install the other maps onto a card?
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> Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
> The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

You are correct in that the C530 did not come with a CD, it was
obviously loaded with North America 2007 at the factory.

Just for interest sake in case I missed some opportunity to check a
box prior to installation I re-inserted the DVD and hooked up the
C530. I followed thru with the installation up to the map selection
and with nothing to lose this time I selected Canada, Alaska and the
U.S. border states. I was hoping that when I clicked on 'install' and
the next window opened it would give me the choice of installing my
selection on the C530 or the PC or an external drive such as an SD
card. No such luck as it immediately began the installation on my
Garmin.....no opportunity to cancel so I replaced the Lower 48 states
with Canada, Alaska, etc.

No harm done because at least now I can navigate from my house in
British Columbia to the U.S. border....with my other install of the 48
states Canada disappeared.

I'll be on the phone bright and early to Garmin tech support and will
post what I learn on this forum.

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-25, 10:33 pm

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Hi Jerry,

I do have MapSource installed on my PC but the Map Update 2008 doesn't
give me the opportunity to load it's contained maps into
MapSource....it goes directly to the C533.

I can open the Update 2008 DVD using 'my computer' and using Windows
Explorer locate the MapSource file under Programs and manually
transfer the files from Update 2008 to MapSource. The only problem
might be the unlock code. When I registered my Update 2008 DVD I
received a Unlock Code but only numerical and not as a file extension.

I'm sure tech support tomorrow will be able to solve my problem
(fingers crossed).

Cliff

Jerry M

2007-11-25, 10:33 pm

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> Explorer locate the MapSource file under Programs and manually
> transfer the files from Update 2008 to MapSource. The only problem
> might be the unlock code. When I registered my Update 2008 DVD I
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Cliff if you have the 25 digit code just copy and paste it in
MapSource. Click on utilities then click on Unlock Maps.. then click
on Next two times and then you can type or paste the 25 digit code and
then go to second line and put name of your gps in there and then
click next again and finish instuctions on the wizard to close it out
and your code will be stored in MapSouce. You can verify it is in
there by opening the wixard again and putting check mark by view my
unlock codes. Go ahead and install the map update from windows
explorer then you will be ready to load your mapsats to your unit.
When wixard comes up asking you to install the unlock code just close
the wixard out because you already installed it or you can install it
at the end of insatalling nt v2008. Your choice. You should not have
any problems then.
Jerry
PS if you had nt versions installed in MapSource you would not have to
go through this trouble as the update disk would have updated
MapSource first before updating your unit. Good luck.

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-25, 10:33 pm

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> click next again and finish instuctions on the wizard to close it out
> and your code will be stored in MapSouce. You can verify it is in
> there by opening the wixard again and putting check mark by view my
> unlock codes. Go ahead and install the map update from windows
> explorer then you will be ready to load your mapsats to your unit.
> When wixard comes up asking you to install the unlock code just close
> the wixard out because you already installed it or you can install it
> at the end of insatalling nt v2008. Your choice. You should not have
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Hi Jerry,

My first problem is that I can't open MapSource....when I try I just
get the message "MapSource can not find any MapSource pruducts". I
downloaded and installed MapSource from Garmin's website.

Cliff

Jerry M

2007-11-25, 10:33 pm

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So what happens when you install the update disk through windows
explorer? That should let you open MapSource after you install and put
in your 25 digit unlock code.
Jerry

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-25, 10:33 pm

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Hi Jerry,

I opened the MapSource file using Windows Explorer and was able to
open the Unlock Wizard...as you suggested I was able to register my
unlock code for Maps 2008. I opened the Wizard again and was able to
view the code that I installed and as well the unlock code for my C530
unit is there as well. I am presently copying the Update DVD into the
Garmin MapSource folder....it will take a little time. I hope when I
then try and open MapSource it will recognize the files I copied and
open. I will let you know what happens.

Thanks,

Cliff

Jeffrey Kaplan

2007-11-25, 10:33 pm

Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, corcliff@telus.net said:

> You are correct in that the C530 did not come with a CD, it was

Neither did my c330. I installed MapSource after getting it from
Garmin later.

> obviously loaded with North America 2007 at the factory.

V7. I think they just switched to using the year instead of a version
number this year.

--
Jeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org
The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol

Peter's Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord, #178.
If I have the hero cornered and am about to finish him off and he says
"Look out behind you!!" I will not laugh and say "You don't expect me
to fall for that old trick, do you?" Instead I will take a step to the
side and half turn. That way I can still keep my weapon trained on the
hero, I can scan the area behind me, and if anything was heading for me
it will now be heading for him.

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-25, 10:33 pm

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Hi Jerry,

When you say install the update disc thru Windows Explorer I think you
mean open My Computer which shows the Garmin DVD in E:/ drive....I
right click and then left click on Explore....when I found the .exe
file I clicked on it and it opened the same windows as if I had just
place the DVD in the E:/ drive and let it open itself. Same prompts
asking me to connect my GPS... no way to open MapSource.

As you previously suggested I copied all the files on Map 2008 to the
MapSource directory but again when I open MapSource I get the same
error message that no MapSource products are installed.

Cliff

budman@frozenorth.ca

2007-11-26, 4:33 am

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The program required is NOT *MapSource! The program is *MapInstall* that is put
on your computer automatically when you stick the 2008 DVD in to run. That's
"MAP-IN-STALL". Look for it on your computer. Start / All Programs / Garmin /
MapInstall.

I don't recall having any choice about installing it or not. It just kinda
'happens'........... when you run the Map Update 2008.

budman@frozenorth.ca

2007-11-26, 4:33 am

>>[color=darkred]

You are correct when you say that MapInstall doesn't show up as such when
browsing the DVD. But it DOES install when you run the DVD update.

Just for nuts sake, let me tell you this. I'm looking at my actual DVD disk and
printed just to the right of the "NAVTEQ on Board" logo, is the following:

007-01318-00 Rev. A
A00-10323-00

Now I don't know if different DVD's were sent out with varying content, but
MapInstall WAS installed on my computer at the same time I did the update on my
C-330.

budman@frozenorth.ca

2007-11-26, 4:33 am

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Jeffery, have you noticed that when you open MapSource, you have the option of
selecting either "City Navigator North America NT v8" OR "City Navigator North
America NT 2008? I don't know if that is significant or not, but we both know
that we got our C-330's working just fine.

Jerry M

2007-11-26, 4:33 am

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MapInstall uses all the maps that are installed in MapSource. The
update dvd first updates MapSource if you have previous versions of NT
loaded in it and yes it does put MapInstall on your desktop but only
works if you have MapSource first. I have 24 maps loaded in MapSource
and they all are available when i run MapInstall. MapInstall only
updates maps where MapSource does other things like create routes and
waypoints etc. that can be sent to gps units.

Jerry M

2007-11-26, 4:33 am

Jack Erbes

2007-11-26, 7:33 am

Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, Jerry M said:
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> So you think the lack of MapSource on his desktop is why he's unable to
> install the other maps onto a card?

If that is the case, maybe trying the thing of installing the Garmin
Training Center and then running the MapSource program update will give
him a full MapSource install. Doing it that way will reputedly give you
a full MapSource install and then he can run the map update.

Jack

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Jeffrey Kaplan

2007-11-26, 12:33 pm

Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, budman@frozenorth.ca said:

> Jeffery, have you noticed that when you open MapSource, you have the option of
> selecting either "City Navigator North America NT v8" OR "City Navigator North
> America NT 2008?

I never clicked on that box before.

> I don't know if that is significant or not, but we both know
> that we got our C-330's working just fine.

Yep.

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corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-26, 3:33 pm

On Nov 26, 9:17 am, Jeffrey Kaplan <nom...@gordol.org> wrote:
> Previously on alt.satellite.gps.garmin, bud...@frozenorth.ca said:
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> I never clicked on that box before.
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> Yep.
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>
> "To know what people really think, pay regard to what they do, rather
> than what they say." - Rene Descartes

Hey guys and girls,

Problem solved thanks to a posting of rebarber on POI Factory and here
it is:

<My daughters update CD came, and she loaded it. When the disk
autoran, it prompted her to choose from 'lower 48' or Canada, Alaska,
Hawaii. She chose lower 48, and it loaded to her GPSr fine. This
process did NOT install Mapinstall or any other Garmin software onto
her PC. I wanted to put the rest of the maps onto the SD card, so I
went to work...
First, I wanted to get Mapinstall onto the PC. To do this, I

Loaded up the 2008 DVD
I cancelled the installation
I opened 'my computer' and selected to explore the DVD
I went to: \windows\msi and ran CNNT2008Update_ENU.msi
This installed Mapinstall onto her PC and put the shortcut on her
desktop. However when I ran it, it told me that the 2008 maps were
present, but locked. I needed to unlock them, but I could not find her
unlock code. She did not remember having one for 2008. I found the
unlock code on her GPSr. To do that,

I went back to my computer and opened the drive letter for the GPSr
(not the SD card)
I went to \garmin and found a file ending in .unl
I copied that file and pasted it on her C:\ directory
I opened that .unl file with notepad.exe
There in front of me was the entire unlock code
I copied the code into the clipboard, and went back to Mapinstall.
When prompted, I pasted the code in, and voila! the maps were
unlocked.
From there, it was a simple matter to select the missing maps and
install them on her SD card.

(On a side note, I tested the maps by requesting a route to Saskatoon.
Worked fine, but I forgot to cancel it. When my daughter left to go
meet her friend, she called me back and asked me why her GPS was
trying to make her drive to Canada. I pictured her just following
along blindly, and then calling me from Saskatoon, saying she had no
idea how she got there. I hurt myself laughing at the image.)>

I called Garmin this morning and eventually talked to tech support
(before I found the solution on POI) and the techi said that there was
no way do do what I just accomplished. He said I would have to buy the
SD with Canada preloaded....I cried enough that he agreed to send me
the SD at no charge but they were back ordered. With my SD card in the
memory slot and when I click on 'Maps' and then 'Info' it now shows
all the maps that were on the Update 2008 DVD loaded and ready.

Thanks to all

budman@frozenorth.ca

2007-11-27, 4:33 am

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Garmin /[color=darkred]

Well there ya go! End of story. Let's put this sucker to bed.

corcliff@telus.net

2007-11-27, 12:33 pm

On Nov 26, 9:49 pm, bud...@frozenorth.ca wrote:
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Again not to belabor the point I can't be the only one who suddenly
discovered his or her C530 hasn't got sufficient memory for Map Update
2008. It took a lot of work on everyone's part including myself to
come to a successful conclusion. It's too bad there aren't any
'stickeys' on the forum for a permanent posting of the instalation.

Patty

2007-12-31, 12:33 pm

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:35:34 -0800 (PST), corcliff@telus.net wrote:

> Hey guys and girls,
>
> Problem solved thanks to a posting of rebarber on POI Factory and here
> it is:
>
> <My daughters update CD came, and she loaded it. When the disk
> autoran, it prompted her to choose from 'lower 48' or Canada, Alaska,
> Hawaii. She chose lower 48, and it loaded to her GPSr fine. This
> process did NOT install Mapinstall or any other Garmin software onto
> her PC. I wanted to put the rest of the maps onto the SD card, so I
> went to work...
> First, I wanted to get Mapinstall onto the PC. To do this, I
>
> Loaded up the 2008 DVD
> I cancelled the installation
> I opened 'my computer' and selected to explore the DVD
> I went to: \windows\msi and ran CNNT2008Update_ENU.msi
> This installed Mapinstall onto her PC and put the shortcut on her
> desktop. However when I ran it, it told me that the 2008 maps were
> present, but locked. I needed to unlock them, but I could not find her
> unlock code. She did not remember having one for 2008. I found the
> unlock code on her GPSr. To do that,
>
> I went back to my computer and opened the drive letter for the GPSr
> (not the SD card)
> I went to \garmin and found a file ending in .unl
> I copied that file and pasted it on her C:\ directory
> I opened that .unl file with notepad.exe
> There in front of me was the entire unlock code
> I copied the code into the clipboard, and went back to Mapinstall.
> When prompted, I pasted the code in, and voila! the maps were
> unlocked.
> From there, it was a simple matter to select the missing maps and
> install them on her SD card.
>
> (On a side note, I tested the maps by requesting a route to Saskatoon.
> Worked fine, but I forgot to cancel it. When my daughter left to go
> meet her friend, she called me back and asked me why her GPS was
> trying to make her drive to Canada. I pictured her just following
> along blindly, and then calling me from Saskatoon, saying she had no
> idea how she got there. I hurt myself laughing at the image.)>
>
>
> I called Garmin this morning and eventually talked to tech support
> (before I found the solution on POI) and the techi said that there was
> no way do do what I just accomplished. He said I would have to buy the
> SD with Canada preloaded....I cried enough that he agreed to send me
> the SD at no charge but they were back ordered. With my SD card in the
> memory slot and when I click on 'Maps' and then 'Info' it now shows
> all the maps that were on the Update 2008 DVD loaded and ready.
>
> Thanks to all

I just got into this thread after purchasing the 2008 Map Update from Best
Buy. Thank you so much for this information, it worked like a charm for me
and I was able to install Canada/Alaska to an unused SD card I had on hand.
Since I live near the US/Canadian border, trips into Canada for me are
common, and I wanted to be able to have the mapping system easily available
to me.

Thanks again, very much appreciated.

Patty

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