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Murray R. Van Luyn

2007-02-10, 12:33 pm

I've just learned about the exciting new outdoor sport of geocaching. It
looks really interesting, and I'd like to get into it.

Tell me, are any of the GPS units at
http://www.review-a-gadget.com/Portable_GPS.php suitable?

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.
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emmbeedee

2007-02-10, 3:33 pm

On Feb 11, 5:25 am, "Murray R. Van Luyn"
<vanlu...@NOSPAM.iinet.net.au> wrote:
> I've just learned about the exciting new outdoor sport of geocaching. It
> looks really interesting, and I'd like to get into it.
>
> Tell me, are any of the GPS units athttp://www.review-a-gadget.com/Portable_GPS.phpsuitable?
>
> Regards,
> Murray R. Van Luyn.
> --http://www.review-a-gadget.com/http://members.iinet.net.au/~vanluynm/



The best gps for caching is a tie between the Garmin GPSMap 60C(S)x
and the 76C(S)x. The S indicates a sensor which, strictly speaking, is
not needed for caching but is still fun to have.

Do a web search and you'll find many reviews.

Emm

Murray R. Van Luyn

2007-02-10, 3:33 pm

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>
> The best gps for caching is a tie between the Garmin GPSMap 60C(S)x
> and the 76C(S)x. The S indicates a sensor which, strictly speaking, is
> not needed for caching but is still fun to have.
>
> Do a web search and you'll find many reviews.
>


Thanks for that Emm. Hmm, I thought it was all Magellan these days. I'll
certainly give the Garmin units that you've suggested a thorough going over.
Yes, I'm definitely after a fun unit. I'm dying to see what this sensor
thingy that you mentioned is all about.

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.
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Murray R. Van Luyn

2007-02-10, 3:33 pm

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> Thanks for that Emm. Hmm, I thought it was all Magellan these days. I'll
> certainly give the Garmin units that you've suggested a thorough going
> over. Yes, I'm definitely after a fun unit. I'm dying to see what this
> sensor thingy that you mentioned is all about.
>

Whoa! Gee the Garmin hand-helds are not cheap, are they? You get what you
pay for I guess, and the 60Cx certainly looks full featured. I can't imagine
what I would do with 56MB of internal storage, supplemented with external SD
cards. I really like the look of the 60Cx though.

I guess I should find out a little bit more about the sport before I go
lashing out with that kind of cash. Anyone know of some really informative
links that would help me, a complete novice, get up to speed?

I had a bit of a look around the net yesterday, and it seems that there are
20 or so published geocaches in and around my state. It might be just as
much fun to go set one or two up myself. I just love it out in the forrested
hills east of Perth in Western Australia where I live. I know of some really
pleasant spots that I'm sure others would enjoy finding their way to also. I
wonder what are the best kinds of things to leave for people to find?

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.
--
http://www.review-a-gadget.com/
http://members.iinet.net.au/~vanluynm/


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2007-02-10, 3:33 pm

On 10 Feb 2007 10:36:46 -0800, in alt.satellite.gps.garmin "emmbeedee"
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>On Feb 11, 5:25 am, "Murray R. Van Luyn"
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>
>

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Cleveland_Tech

2007-02-10, 3:33 pm


"Murray R. Van Luyn" <vanluynm@NOSPAM.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> Whoa! Gee the Garmin hand-helds are not cheap, are they? You get what you
> pay for I guess, and the 60Cx certainly looks full featured. I can't

imagine
> what I would do with 56MB of internal storage, supplemented with external

SD
> cards. I really like the look of the 60Cx though.
>
> I guess I should find out a little bit more about the sport before I go
> lashing out with that kind of cash. Anyone know of some really informative
> links that would help me, a complete novice, get up to speed?
>
> I had a bit of a look around the net yesterday, and it seems that there

are
> 20 or so published geocaches in and around my state. It might be just as
> much fun to go set one or two up myself. I just love it out in the

forrested
> hills east of Perth in Western Australia where I live. I know of some

really
> pleasant spots that I'm sure others would enjoy finding their way to also.

I
> wonder what are the best kinds of things to leave for people to find?
>
> Regards,
> Murray R. Van Luyn.
> --
> http://www.review-a-gadget.com/
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~vanluynm/
>
>

start at www.geocaching.com - you will find way more than twenty for your
state - that's just about a guarantee. Depending on where you live - there
could be a couple dozen. In and near towns and cities, there could be
dozen's at a minimum. They also have a good forum there.

Another site for information on GPS, equipment, software, and much more is
at www.gpsinformation.net

I don't know the exact numbers, but Garmin outsells Magellan about 9 to 1
(or was that 10 to 1?)

I know a lot of people that use more basic models (around a hundred dollars
and up) for geocaching. Some like to start with a basic model, and then
upgrade in a year or so if they still like the hobby, and as they get more
experienced and want extra features.
http://www.garmin.com/outdoor/products.html#basic has a list of products.

Hope this helps.


Murray R. Van Luyn

2007-02-10, 3:33 pm

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> start at www.geocaching.com - you will find way more than twenty for your
> state - that's just about a guarantee. Depending on where you live -
> there
> could be a couple dozen. In and near towns and cities, there could be
> dozen's at a minimum. They also have a good forum there.


Thanks so much for that one. I just managed to find it a few minutes before
reading your message. You're right. There are over 800 geocache sites
registered on this site in my state. I had no idea geocaching was so
popular. I'm amazed.

> Another site for information on GPS, equipment, software, and much more is
> at www.gpsinformation.net


That will come in handy I'll bet. I don't know the first thing about GPS and
have only ever used a very simple one on the one occasion. I'd better find
out what I'm looking for before I go and do the spending part.

> I know a lot of people that use more basic models (around a hundred
> dollars
> and up) for geocaching. Some like to start with a basic model, and then
> upgrade in a year or so if they still like the hobby, and as they get more
> experienced and want extra features.


Yep, sounds like a pretty good strategy. I was kind of figuring on the
$100-$150 dollar mark to begin with. Some of the cheapies look pretty
interesting to me, but I'll have to get a few more facts together before I
decide.

> Hope this helps.


It sure did. I'm going to get a lot of fun out of this. Stomping through the
bush is just my cup of tea, and some of the bushland in Western Australia is
just ideal. No bears, cougars or anything particularly nasty at all. About
the meanest thing you can come across is a pepper tick, and they are so tiny
you can barely even see them. They do leave you with some nasty bites,
though.

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.
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Murray R. Van Luyn

2007-02-10, 3:33 pm

No, I'm not a spammer. But I am a real person who accepts responsibility for
my actions, not afraid of my own identity, and you are not. You are an
immature and irresponsible coward. That is clear to all.

I'm genuinely interested in the sport of geocaching. I got interested
yesterday when I was adding some content to my site. I would like to know
what is a good unit to purchase and recommend.

If I was a spammer I would not have put the URL of my sites in my tag line.
I would conceal it. Gee, you're just too smart for all of us I guess.
Genius!

You can do me no harm. I'm somebody. You're nobody.

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Murray R. Van Luyn

2007-02-10, 3:33 pm

"emmbeedee" <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> The best gps for caching is a tie between the Garmin GPSMap 60C(S)x
> and the 76C(S)x. The S indicates a sensor which, strictly speaking, is
> not needed for caching but is still fun to have.
>


You were right on the money with your tips Emm. I just got a first look at
the forums at www.geocaching.com and both the Garmin 60Cx and 76Cx seem to
feature heavily. I'll have to figure out what this dedicated geocaching mode
is all about.

Regards,
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Paul Walker

2007-02-10, 10:33 pm

Hi Murray

I'm also located in Perth, WA.

"Murray R. Van Luyn" <vanluynm@NOSPAM.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> Whoa! Gee the Garmin hand-helds are not cheap, are they? You get what you
> pay for I guess, and the 60Cx certainly looks full featured. I can't
> imagine what I would do with 56MB of internal storage, supplemented with
> external SD cards. I really like the look of the 60Cx though.


I've got the 60CSx. I imported mine. It cost about $A600 landed. I love it.
They are a lot more expensive to buy in AU (about $A800). Garmin have
cheaper models also, 60/76 CSx is top of the range in handhelds.

> I guess I should find out a little bit more about the sport before I go
> lashing out with that kind of cash. Anyone know of some really informative
> links that would help me, a complete novice, get up to speed?


Know anyone with a GPS? Get them to take you out and try it. However, if you
like bushwalking and treasure hunts, then its highly likely you'll love
geocaching.

> I had a bit of a look around the net yesterday, and it seems that there
> are 20 or so published geocaches in and around my state.


There's heaps more than that! I've got all the caches within 250km of Perth
in my CSx and that's about 650 of them! Do a search at www.geocaching.com.

> It might be just as much fun to go set one or two up myself. I just love
> it out in the forrested hills east of Perth in Western Australia where I
> live. I know of some really pleasant spots that I'm sure others would
> enjoy finding their way to also. I wonder what are the best kinds of
> things to leave for people to find?


The best bet is to find some first. That way you will get a feel for how /
where to hide them and also what to stock them with.

Paul


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2007-02-10, 10:33 pm

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 05:35:59 -0800, in alt.satellite.gps.garmin "Murray R. Van
Luyn" <vanluynm@NOSPAM.iinet.net.au> wrote:

>
>Yep, sounds like a pretty good strategy. I was kind of figuring on the
>$100-$150 dollar mark to begin with. Some of the cheapies look pretty
>interesting to me, but I'll have to get a few more facts together before I
>decide.



are you going to buy one off your own website?
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Kent Friis

2007-02-10, 10:33 pm

Den 10 Feb 2007 10:36:46 -0800 skrev emmbeedee:
> On Feb 11, 5:25 am, "Murray R. Van Luyn"
> <vanlu...@NOSPAM.iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>
> The best gps for caching is a tie between the Garmin GPSMap 60C(S)x
> and the 76C(S)x. The S indicates a sensor which, strictly speaking, is
> not needed for caching but is still fun to have.


S is magnetic compass (and barometric height). AFAIK, GPS itself can
not give direction, but requires movement to figure out which way
you are moving. At least that's how it works in my brothers car.
Is that different in the 60Cx?

I would say that being able to tell which way you need to go when
you are standing still is an advantage when on foot.

Kent
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emmbeedee

2007-02-10, 10:33 pm

On Feb 10, 9:19 pm, Kent Friis <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Den 10 Feb 2007 10:36:46 -0800 skrev emmbeedee:
>
>
>
>
>
> S is magnetic compass (and barometric height). AFAIK, GPS itself can
> not give direction, but requires movement to figure out which way
> you are moving. At least that's how it works in my brothers car.
> Is that different in the 60Cx?
>
> I would say that being able to tell which way you need to go when
> you are standing still is an advantage when on foot.


I usually turn the magnetic compass off while caching as it uses up
the batteries faster, and requires you to hold the gps level. And
you're generally walking in a set direction anyway so the movement
gives your gps compass what it needs to function. It's very easy to
turn the magnetic compasss on and off by just holding in the PAGE
button on the S models.

Emm

Len Philpot

2007-02-11, 4:33 am

On 10 Feb 2007 19:50:30 -0800, emmbeedee wrote:
> gives your gps compass what it needs to function. It's very easy to
> turn the magnetic compasss on and off by just holding in the PAGE
> button on the S models.


Have you ever had the unit power off abruptly when turning the compass
off or on? It happened to me a couple of times several weeks ago, then
not again. Until today, that is, when it happened three times. I have a
76S.
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>I've just learned about the exciting new outdoor sport of geocaching. It
>looks really interesting, and I'd like to get into it.
>
>Tell me, are any of the GPS units at ######## suitable?


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>Murray R. Van Luyn.



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2007-02-11, 7:33 am

On Feb 11, 12:19 am, Len Philpot <l...@philpot.org> wrote:
> On 10 Feb 2007 19:50:30 -0800, emmbeedee wrote:
>
>
> Have you ever had the unit power off abruptly when turning the compass
> off or on? It happened to me a couple of times several weeks ago, then
> not again. Until today, that is, when it happened three times. I have a
> 76S.
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Nope, never happened to me, and I click it on and off at least once or
twice each time I use the gps, which is at least 3 or 4 times a week.

Emm

Murray R. Van Luyn

2007-02-11, 7:33 am

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Hi Paul,

> I'm also located in Perth, WA.


A fellow sandgroper no less. You'd know about the dreaded pepper ticks then
too I guess.

> I've got the 60CSx. I imported mine. It cost about $A600 landed. I love
> it. They are a lot more expensive to buy in AU (about $A800). Garmin have
> cheaper models also, 60/76 CSx is top of the range in handhelds.


Yeah, I agree. We seem to get stung a bit locally for pretty much
everything. Something to do with the tyrrany of distance, but when you can
buy OS and have something flown in airmail, and it's still cheaper, then
that excuse doesn't really seem to hold. I think if I start looking at new
units, then finding the best deal on the net might be the go. Good advice.

Yes the Garmin models, and in particular the 60 and 70 Cx do seem to be
mentioned in the forums at www.geocaching.com quite heavily. There must be
something in that. Maybe that will be my dream GPS that I'll have a more
serious look at after I get into things a little more.

> Know anyone with a GPS? Get them to take you out and try it. However, if
> you like bushwalking and treasure hunts, then its highly likely you'll
> love geocaching.


Yes I do know someone with a very old, very basic GPS. If I ask very nicely
my sister and her husband who live in Kalbarri might post theirs down for a
quick lend. Yes, I really do enjoy bushwalking, and I think you would agree
that we are particularly blessed here in Perth. We are so fortunate to have
so much open forest, so close to our capital city. I just love the hills
near us. If it weren't for those darn pepper ticks, though.

>
> There's heaps more than that! I've got all the caches within 250km of
> Perth in my CSx and that's about 650 of them! Do a search at
> www.geocaching.com.


You're right. I think there are over 800 at www.geocaching.com in our state
alone. I'm dying to see some of the sorts of things people leave in them.
Hmm, now where's a really good spot to locate my own geocache, I wonder.

Nice to hear from you, and happy geocaching Paul.

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.
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Fred Scharmann

2007-02-14, 7:33 am

Depending what you want in a GPS, one for geocaching can be very simple and
cost about $100. It does not have do maps or always point North, but if it
has waas, it will do the job.

My grandkids and I use a Garmin Etrex Navigator and it suits our needs. (I
think it is their least expensive model.) If you want maps, color, etc.,
expect to pay more.

Again, geocaching's needs are very simple.


emmbeedee

2007-02-14, 10:33 am

On Feb 14, 8:19 am, "Fred Scharmann"
<fjs3_get_rid_of_t...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Depending what you want in a GPS, one for geocaching can be very simple and
> cost about $100. It does not have do maps or always point North, but if it
> has waas, it will do the job.
>
> My grandkids and I use a Garmin Etrex Navigator and it suits our needs. (I
> think it is their least expensive model.) If you want maps, color, etc.,
> expect to pay more.
>
> Again, geocaching's needs are very simple.



I agree; though I now have a 60C, a 60CSx, an 18, and my wife has a
76S and a 76CSx, my first GPS was an Etrex Legend and it would have
sufficed for Geocaching. In the eTrex line, the Legend in particular
is very useful IMHO. And you can often pick one up at a Pawn Shop for
$50 to $75. Even new, there are ways to pay less through the purchase
of a refurbished unit.

But if I had to start over, I would go straight to the 60CSx and save
time and money. It's the best for Geocaching and a whole lot of other
uses, and the one which does it all extremely well. It's great in the
car, on your belt, whatever.

There isn't a better GPS, as far as I am concerned. Unless of course
you want bells and whistles and Bluetooth and music and voice
direction, but those mean nothing to me.

Emm

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