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Comparing the 60CSx with the 76CSx
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| Looking at the Product Comparison Chart:
http://www.garmin.com/outdoor/compare.jsp
I can find virtually no difference betwee the 60CSx and the 76CSx, except
that the latter is a bit larger, and has a larger stock SD card. Can
someone please tell me what I am missing?
Thank you very much,
David
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| Jack Erbes 2007-03-02, 7:33 am |
| David wrote:
> Looking at the Product Comparison Chart:
> http://www.garmin.com/outdoor/compare.jsp
> I can find virtually no difference betwee the 60CSx and the 76CSx, except
> that the latter is a bit larger, and has a larger stock SD card. Can
> someone please tell me what I am missing?
>
> Thank you very much,
> David
Here is my take on the differences, I bought the 76Cx and have not regrets:
GPSMAP 60 Cx/CSx = 2.4" W x 6.1" H x 1.3" D
GPSMAP 76 Cx/CSx = 2.7" W x 6.2" H x 1.2" D
Both have the same software and features.
Some differences and pros and cons mentioned here in the past:
60 is display over buttons, 76 is buttons over display
76 "props up and leans against something" better because of the more
rectangular case.
I often use the 76 in a map case on a motorcycle, the more rectangular
shape and button location works better for me there than the shape of
the 60 would.
Batteries have to be removed from 60 and a card holder messed with to
change microSD card. On 76, microSD card pops out quickly without
removing batteries.
Both 60 and 76 series have battery cases that can be a little bit snug
with some brands or types of AA cells. re have been some problems with
broken battery contacts. Solution is to insert and remove them level
and gently.
Both are equally water resistant.
The 76 floats, the 60 does not. Except maybe with some lighter batteries.
The 60 is very close to neutral buoyancy, it will sink slowly and you'll
have some time to think about jumping in the water to save it. It can
be made to not sink fairly easily.
The 76 is "slicker" in the hand, the 60 sticks to the hand better with
its rubber armored case. I have my 76Cx in a Gilsson neoprene case with
a clear window over the display. That makes it not slick and protects
the case and display.
Both models come with a lanyard (a wrist strap, more or less).
The 60 also comes with a belt clip.
The 60 can be hung though an opening in the case next to the antenna
near the top of the case, that puts it more or less upright.
The 76's lanyard loop is on the bottom of the case and it would hang
upside down if the lanyard was used for that.
I used Magellan Meridians (shaped much like the 60 series) for years but
bought a 76Cx. After trying both styles, I like the 76's buttons over
display style equally as well as I like the buttons under display style.
There are situations where either one of the two may be better than the
other. Only solution for that is to buy one of each. :> )
The accessories and performance seems to be the same with both of them.
Cheers,
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA (jackerbes at adelphia dot net)
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine dot com)
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| Great summary, Jack!
Thank you so much.
Can you please tell me where you got your Gilsson neoprene case?
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:28:06 -0500, Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net>
wrote:
>David wrote:
>
>Here is my take on the differences, I bought the 76Cx and have not regrets:
>
>GPSMAP 60 Cx/CSx = 2.4" W x 6.1" H x 1.3" D
>
>GPSMAP 76 Cx/CSx = 2.7" W x 6.2" H x 1.2" D
>
>Both have the same software and features.
>
>Some differences and pros and cons mentioned here in the past:
>
>60 is display over buttons, 76 is buttons over display
>
>76 "props up and leans against something" better because of the more
>rectangular case.
>
>I often use the 76 in a map case on a motorcycle, the more rectangular
>shape and button location works better for me there than the shape of
>the 60 would.
>
>Batteries have to be removed from 60 and a card holder messed with to
>change microSD card. On 76, microSD card pops out quickly without
>removing batteries.
>
>Both 60 and 76 series have battery cases that can be a little bit snug
>with some brands or types of AA cells. re have been some problems with
>broken battery contacts. Solution is to insert and remove them level
>and gently.
>
>Both are equally water resistant.
>
>The 76 floats, the 60 does not. Except maybe with some lighter batteries.
>
>The 60 is very close to neutral buoyancy, it will sink slowly and you'll
>have some time to think about jumping in the water to save it. It can
>be made to not sink fairly easily.
>
>The 76 is "slicker" in the hand, the 60 sticks to the hand better with
>its rubber armored case. I have my 76Cx in a Gilsson neoprene case with
>a clear window over the display. That makes it not slick and protects
>the case and display.
>
>Both models come with a lanyard (a wrist strap, more or less).
>
>The 60 also comes with a belt clip.
>
>The 60 can be hung though an opening in the case next to the antenna
>near the top of the case, that puts it more or less upright.
>
>The 76's lanyard loop is on the bottom of the case and it would hang
>upside down if the lanyard was used for that.
>
>I used Magellan Meridians (shaped much like the 60 series) for years but
>bought a 76Cx. After trying both styles, I like the 76's buttons over
>display style equally as well as I like the buttons under display style.
>
>There are situations where either one of the two may be better than the
>other. Only solution for that is to buy one of each. :> )
>
>The accessories and performance seems to be the same with both of them.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jack
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| Klatch 2007-03-02, 7:33 am |
| "David" <invalid@socrates.edu> wrote in message
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> Great summary, Jack!
> Thank you so much.
> Can you please tell me where you got your Gilsson neoprene case?
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> On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:28:06 -0500, Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net>
> wrote:
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GPSgeek. They have their own web site, but the prices are better on Ebay
http://tinyurl.com/2agw75
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| Jack Erbes 2007-03-02, 7:33 am |
| David wrote:
> Great summary, Jack!
> Thank you so much.
> Can you please tell me where you got your Gilsson neoprene case?
It is this case here:
http://www.thegpsstore.com/detail.asp?product_id=GL0508
An eBay search will turn it up at better prices if you shop there:
http://tinyurl.com/38hpkv
I used a utility knife and trimmed the clear plastic above the display
to make the buttons easier to use and find by feel. The case has a
zippered opening at the bottom and the power cable that be put on and
brought out that opening.
I've evolved to using a USB to mini-USB cable for portable power more
than the Garmin auto adapter cable (an optional purchase). I keep one
of these in the car for use there:
http://tinyurl.com/34m4y6
I put one of these mini-USB right angle adapters on the mini-USB end of
the cable:
http://tinyurl.com/2mscqe
With that adapter the cable lays flat against the back of the GPS case
instead of sticking out at a right angle, it all fits easily under the
Gilsson case, and the cable exits at the zippered opening
I leave the cable in place all the time for external power and quick
connection to the PC.
I used a piece of adhesive lined heat shrink tubing around the right
angle adapter to make it a permanent part of the mini-USB cable.
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA (jackerbes at adelphia dot net)
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine dot com)
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-02, 12:33 pm |
| On Mar 2, 8:29 am, Jack Erbes <jacker...@adelphia.net> wrote:
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> I've evolved to using a USB to mini-USB cable for portable power more
> than the Garmin auto adapter cable (an optional purchase). I keep one
> of these in the car for use there:
While it sounds like a good idea to use the USB for power when in the
car or on the motorcycle, one of my co-workers had the USB connector
break off on her 60C. When she unplugged the cable, part of the
connector came out with it. The GPS was still useable, but the USB
connection block came right away from the circuit board, and no longer
made any contact.
I'm going to stick with the normal power source cable, myself, and
save the USB connector for connections to the computer where it's
unlikely to suffer any kind of hit or twist. The standard power cable
connection is much more rugged.
Emm
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| Jack Erbes 2007-03-02, 12:33 pm |
| emmbeedee wrote:
> On Mar 2, 8:29 am, Jack Erbes <jacker...@adelphia.net> wrote:
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>
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> While it sounds like a good idea to use the USB for power when in the
> car or on the motorcycle, one of my co-workers had the USB connector
> break off on her 60C. When she unplugged the cable, part of the
> connector came out with it. The GPS was still useable, but the USB
> connection block came right away from the circuit board, and no longer
> made any contact.
Yeah, the mini-USB plug is a close fit in the socket and the contacts
are on an "stub" that sticks up in the center of the socket. Any radial
stress could easily over stress the stub or the socket. I studied that
a little before I did it. I think that it is all at little risk with
the case on it. I'm willing to take the chance anyway.
> I'm going to stick with the normal power source cable, myself, and
> save the USB connector for connections to the computer where it's
> unlikely to suffer any kind of hit or twist. The standard power cable
> connection is much more rugged.
My normal power cable was a pretty loose fit in the socket/on the pins
and easily dislodged. Also, I did not care for the amount of it that
stuck up outside the back of the case. I could pull the Gilsson case
down over it and it helped hold it in place but it left a "lump"
protruding from the back.
My idea is clearly better, I could tell by the warm, fuzzy feeling I got
from it. :> )
http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_1.jpg
http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_2.jpg
http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_3.jpg
http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_4.jpg
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-02, 3:33 pm |
| On Mar 2, 11:46 am, Jack Erbes <jacker...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> emmbeedee wrote:
>
>
>
> Yeah, the mini-USB plug is a close fit in the socket and the contacts
> are on an "stub" that sticks up in the center of the socket. Any radial
> stress could easily over stress the stub or the socket. I studied that
> a little before I did it. I think that it is all at little risk with
> the case on it. I'm willing to take the chance anyway.
>
>
> My normal power cable was a pretty loose fit in the socket/on the pins
> and easily dislodged. Also, I did not care for the amount of it that
> stuck up outside the back of the case. I could pull the Gilsson case
> down over it and it helped hold it in place but it left a "lump"
> protruding from the back.
>
> My idea is clearly better, I could tell by the warm, fuzzy feeling I got
> from it. :> )
Your setup is well executed and looks good, but I wouldn't chance it,
myself. One little sideways tug on the cable and you just might hear
that expensive crack...
Emm
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| David 2007-03-03, 12:33 pm |
| Good pictures, Jack! They give me a much better feel for the discussion.
Also, I've looked at all your above links, Klatch's too. I think my next
step had better be to order the 76 first, and then revisit all these
accessories. But you've certainly given me a great roadmap.
Thanks so much, and best regards!
David
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:46:39 -0500, Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net>
wrote:
>emmbeedee wrote:
>
>
>Yeah, the mini-USB plug is a close fit in the socket and the contacts
>are on an "stub" that sticks up in the center of the socket. Any radial
>stress could easily over stress the stub or the socket. I studied that
>a little before I did it. I think that it is all at little risk with
>the case on it. I'm willing to take the chance anyway.
>
>
>My normal power cable was a pretty loose fit in the socket/on the pins
>and easily dislodged. Also, I did not care for the amount of it that
>stuck up outside the back of the case. I could pull the Gilsson case
>down over it and it helped hold it in place but it left a "lump"
>protruding from the back.
>
>My idea is clearly better, I could tell by the warm, fuzzy feeling I got
>from it. :> )
>
>http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_1.jpg
>http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_2.jpg
>http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_3.jpg
>http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_4.jpg
>
>Jack
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| Jack and Emm,
Just a thought: If you are concerned about the cable being wrenched loose
you might consider using a bit of velcro between your heat-shrink and the
GPSr body. That should snug it right down. I have only a small 1" x 1/2"
piece on the back of my 12MAP that keeps the whole unit attached to the
vertical face of my dashboard, even when bouncing around in 4WD. I would
suspect that the stresses would be much less for your application.
Just a thought, FWIW...
David
On Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:46:39 -0500, Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net>
wrote:
>emmbeedee wrote:
>
>
>Yeah, the mini-USB plug is a close fit in the socket and the contacts
>are on an "stub" that sticks up in the center of the socket. Any radial
>stress could easily over stress the stub or the socket. I studied that
>a little before I did it. I think that it is all at little risk with
>the case on it. I'm willing to take the chance anyway.
>
>
>My normal power cable was a pretty loose fit in the socket/on the pins
>and easily dislodged. Also, I did not care for the amount of it that
>stuck up outside the back of the case. I could pull the Gilsson case
>down over it and it helped hold it in place but it left a "lump"
>protruding from the back.
>
>My idea is clearly better, I could tell by the warm, fuzzy feeling I got
>from it. :> )
>
>http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_1.jpg
>http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_2.jpg
>http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_3.jpg
>http://users.adelphia.net/~jackerbe.../76Cx_USB_4.jpg
>
>Jack
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| Jack Erbes 2007-03-03, 3:33 pm |
| David wrote:
> Jack and Emm,
>
> Just a thought: If you are concerned about the cable being wrenched loose
> you might consider using a bit of velcro between your heat-shrink and the
> GPSr body. That should snug it right down. I have only a small 1" x 1/2"
> piece on the back of my 12MAP that keeps the whole unit attached to the
> vertical face of my dashboard, even when bouncing around in 4WD. I would
> suspect that the stresses would be much less for your application.
> Just a thought, FWIW...
That's an idea. But I'm not any more concerned about the situation with
my mini-USB cable than I would be with the Garmin power cable (the round
four pin connector). The mini-USB cable exits the neoprene case at the
zipper opening, I don't handle the GPS by the cable or do anything
intentionally that would put a pulling force on the cable.
I'm satisfied that it is going to take more than "one little sideways
tug" to damage the mini-USB socket. If I was concerned about that I
would use a cable tie and attach the USB cable (or regular power cord
too if I was using that) to the strap or D-ring on the case so that it
would have to rip that off before it put a pulling strain on either the
mini-USB socket or the power/data cable socket.
When I use the 76Cx on my ATV I lay it on a small piece of foam rubber
for padding and strap it there with a small bungee cord. The Gilsson
case and display cover takes care of the light protection and scratch
protections, the foam takes the jolts. My MAP 33OM, Meridians, and now
the 76Cx have all survived that mounting.
Jack
--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA (jackerbes at adelphia dot net)
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine dot com)
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| Keith G. Powell 2007-03-06, 7:33 am |
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"Jack Erbes" <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> David wrote:
>
> It is this case here:
>
> http://www.thegpsstore.com/detail.asp?product_id=GL0508
>
> An eBay search will turn it up at better prices if you shop there:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/38hpkv
>
> I used a utility knife and trimmed the clear plastic above the display to
> make the buttons easier to use and find by feel. The case has a zippered
> opening at the bottom and the power cable that be put on and brought out
> that opening.
>
> I've evolved to using a USB to mini-USB cable for portable power more than
> the Garmin auto adapter cable (an optional purchase). I keep one of these
> in the car for use there:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/34m4y6
>
> I put one of these mini-USB right angle adapters on the mini-USB end of
> the cable:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2mscqe
>
> With that adapter the cable lays flat against the back of the GPS case
> instead of sticking out at a right angle, it all fits easily under the
> Gilsson case, and the cable exits at the zippered opening
>
> I leave the cable in place all the time for external power and quick
> connection to the PC.
>
> I used a piece of adhesive lined heat shrink tubing around the right angle
> adapter to make it a permanent part of the mini-USB cable.
>
> Jack
Sadly, the Motorola USB to mini-USB adapter does *not* work on the 60CSx,
because the back of its case is too rounded to allow the adapter mini-USB
to be inserted into the 60CSx mini-USB :0(
Keith G. Powell
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| ring@psci.net 2007-03-28, 10:33 pm |
| I noticed that the 60csx has an icon on Garmin's website that says it
includes "Navteq". The 76csx has no such icon. I downloaded both
user manuals, but neither reference it. Is the navteq in error on the
60csx's page?
shopping for one of these probably...
chad
On Mar 1, 8:28 pm, Jack Erbes <jacker...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> David wrote
>
> Here is my take on the differences, I bought the 76Cx and have not regrets:
>
> GPSMAP 60 Cx/CSx = 2.4" W x 6.1" H x 1.3" D
>
> GPSMAP 76 Cx/CSx = 2.7" W x 6.2" H x 1.2" D
>
> Both have the same software and features.
>
> Some differences and pros and cons mentioned here in the past:
>
> 60 is display over buttons, 76 is buttons over display
>
> 76 "props up and leans against something" better because of the more
> rectangular case.
>
> I often use the 76 in a map case on a motorcycle, the more rectangular
> shape and button location works better for me there than the shape of
> the 60 would.
>
> Batteries have to be removed from 60 and a card holder messed with to
> change microSD card. On 76, microSD card pops out quickly without
> removing batteries.
>
> Both 60 and 76 series have battery cases that can be a little bit snug
> with some brands or types of AA cells. re have been some problems with
> broken battery contacts. Solution is to insert and remove them level
> and gently.
>
> Both are equally water resistant.
>
> The 76 floats, the 60 does not. Except maybe with some lighter batteries.
>
> The 60 is very close to neutral buoyancy, it will sink slowly and you'll
> have some time to think about jumping in the water to save it. It can
> be made to not sink fairly easily.
>
> The 76 is "slicker" in the hand, the 60 sticks to the hand better with
> its rubber armored case. I have my 76Cx in a Gilsson neoprene case with
> a clear window over the display. That makes it not slick and protects
> the case and display.
>
> Both models come with a lanyard (a wrist strap, more or less).
>
> The 60 also comes with a belt clip.
>
> The 60 can be hung though an opening in the case next to the antenna
> near the top of the case, that puts it more or less upright.
>
> The 76's lanyard loop is on the bottom of the case and it would hang
> upside down if the lanyard was used for that.
>
> I used Magellan Meridians (shaped much like the 60 series) for years but
> bought a 76Cx. After trying both styles, I like the 76's buttons over
> display style equally as well as I like the buttons under display style.
>
> There are situations where either one of the two may be better than the
> other. Only solution for that is to buy one of each. :> )
>
> The accessories and performance seems to be the same with both of them.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jack
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| Jack Erbes 2007-03-29, 7:33 am |
| ring@psci.net wrote:
> I noticed that the 60csx has an icon on Garmin's website that says it
> includes "Navteq". The 76csx has no such icon. I downloaded both
> user manuals, but neither reference it. Is the navteq in error on the
> 60csx's page?
>
> shopping for one of these probably...
>
NavTeq is who Garmin buys their mapping data from. that goes for both
the base maps and for any optional at extra cost supplemental mapping.
Any Garmin product that uses mapping is using NavTeq data, I don't know
why that icon would not be on both of those models.
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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