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Author Re: Reselling Garmin MapSource?
Nathan Urban

2007-03-18, 10:33 am

Thanks for the advice, everyone. I don't really want to have to set up
up another computer for the express purpose of running MapSource, even
if it is cheap. However, I can probably use someone else's computer
for that, since I probably won't need to use it too often directly
(can use Google Earth for downloading tracks and waypoints). I just
didn't want to be stuck in that situation indefinitely, but it appears
I was mistaken about the code locking to both the hardware and the
software. That's a relief. Thanks again for the help!
Nathan Urban

2007-03-18, 10:33 am

Hmm, another question... if I don't have to re-buy my maps and
install them with a Windows version of MapSource now, will I have to
buy another MapSource later (to get the Mac version)? I think you can
download free updates to an installed MapSource, right?
Kent Friis

2007-03-18, 10:33 am

Den Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:56:14 +0000 (UTC) skrev Nathan Urban:
> Hmm, another question... if I don't have to re-buy my maps and
> install them with a Windows version of MapSource now, will I have to
> buy another MapSource later (to get the Mac version)? I think you can
> download free updates to an installed MapSource, right?


You can download the MapSource program, it just requires that you
own "a MapSource product", i.e. one of the maps that come with
MapSource.

Assuming the Mac version is going to be the same, there shouldn't
be any problems. And why should they make it so that you would have
to buy things again, that would just push customers away, rather
than gain more customers. I think the Mac version of MapSource will
just be another download, the CDs will still contain only the
Windows version, at least until CN v10 comes out. No reason to start
producing new CDs.

/Kent
--
"So there I was surrounded by all these scary creatures
They were even scarier than what Microsoft call features"
- C64Mafia: Forbidden Forest (Don't Go Walking Slow).
Gene S. Berkowitz

2007-03-18, 10:33 pm

In article <etjc6s$7su$1@news04.infoave.net>, nurban@crib.corepower.com
says...
> Thanks for the advice, everyone. I don't really want to have to set up
> up another computer for the express purpose of running MapSource, even
> if it is cheap. However, I can probably use someone else's computer
> for that, since I probably won't need to use it too often directly
> (can use Google Earth for downloading tracks and waypoints). I just
> didn't want to be stuck in that situation indefinitely, but it appears
> I was mistaken about the code locking to both the hardware and the
> software. That's a relief. Thanks again for the help!


Please note that while MapSource will run and be usable on just about
anything that boots Windows, Google Earth is an incredible pig that
requires enormous amounts of RAM, CPU, and HW video acceleration to be
less than a miserable experience.

--Gene
dold@79.usenet.us.com

2007-03-18, 10:33 pm

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Gene S. Berkowitz <first.last@comcast.net> wrote:
> anything that boots Windows, Google Earth is an incredible pig that
> requires enormous amounts of RAM, CPU, and HW video acceleration to be
> less than a miserable experience.


Google Earth is running reasonably on both Linux and Windows XP on a 256MB
laptop for me.

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Gene S. Berkowitz

2007-03-18, 10:33 pm

In article <etkcr7$ouc$1@blue.rahul.net>, dold@79.usenet.us.com says...
> In sci.geo.satellite-nav Gene S. Berkowitz <first.last@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Google Earth is running reasonably on both Linux and Windows XP on a 256MB
> laptop for me.


Google Earth:

Minimum configuration for PC:

* Operating System: Windows 2000 or Windows XP
* CPU: Pentium 3, 500Mhz
* System Memory (RAM): 128MB
* Hard Disk: 400MB free space
* Network Speed: 128 Kbits/sec
* Graphics Card: 3D-capable with 16MB of VRAM
* Screen: 1024x768, "16-bit High Color"

Recommended configuration for PC:

* Operating System: Windows XP or Windows Vista
* CPU: Pentium 4 2.4GHz+ or AMD 2400xp+
* System Memory (RAM): 512MB
* Hard Disk: 2GB free space
* Network Speed: 768 Kbits/sec
* Graphics Card: 3D-capable with 32MB of VRAM
* Screen: 1280x1024, "32-bit True Color"

--Gene
Pegleg

2007-03-18, 10:33 pm

On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:01:11 +0000 (UTC), dold@79.usenet.us.com wrote:


>Google Earth is running reasonably on both Linux and Windows XP on a 256MB
>laptop for me.


Which release of Google Earth are you running on your laptop? Current
free release is 4.

dold@79.usenet.us.com

2007-03-18, 10:33 pm

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote:
> Which release of Google Earth are you running on your laptop? Current
> free release is 4.


GE - free - 4.0.2735, on RHEL AS 3, update 8, P3-800MHz, 256MB RAM.

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Kent Friis

2007-03-19, 3:33 pm

Den Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:16:31 -0400 skrev Gene S Berkowitz:
> In article <etkcr7$ouc$1@blue.rahul.net>, dold@79.usenet.us.com says...
>
> Google Earth:
>
> Minimum configuration for PC:
>
> * Operating System: Windows 2000 or Windows XP
> * CPU: Pentium 3, 500Mhz
> * System Memory (RAM): 128MB
> * Hard Disk: 400MB free space
> * Network Speed: 128 Kbits/sec
> * Graphics Card: 3D-capable with 16MB of VRAM
> * Screen: 1024x768, "16-bit High Color"


Which is a what? 8 years old PC?

> Recommended configuration for PC:
>
> * Operating System: Windows XP or Windows Vista
> * CPU: Pentium 4 2.4GHz+ or AMD 2400xp+
> * System Memory (RAM): 512MB
> * Hard Disk: 2GB free space
> * Network Speed: 768 Kbits/sec
> * Graphics Card: 3D-capable with 32MB of VRAM
> * Screen: 1280x1024, "32-bit True Color"


Which is, apart from the CPU - which is probably just another way of
saying "more is better" - still an old machine. 32 MB of VRAM, how
many years ago were they even available?

/Kent
--
"So there I was surrounded by all these scary creatures
They were even scarier than what Microsoft call features"
- C64Mafia: Forbidden Forest (Don't Go Walking Slow).
Gene S. Berkowitz

2007-03-21, 10:33 pm

In article < 45feb2b7$0$90274$147
26298@news.sunsite.dk>,
nospam@nospam.invalid says...[color=darkred]
> Den Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:16:31 -0400 skrev Gene S Berkowitz:
>
> Which is a what? 8 years old PC?
>

If you were following the thread, the OP has a Power Mac, and didn't
want to buy a PC to run MapSource.
MapSource will run well on PC hardware that G/E will refuse to run on.

--Gene
Kent Friis

2007-03-21, 10:33 pm

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.satellite.gps.garmin.]
Den Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:36:06 -0400 skrev Gene S Berkowitz:
> In article < 45feb2b7$0$90274$147
26298@news.sunsite.dk>,
> nospam@nospam.invalid says...
>
> If you were following the thread, the OP has a Power Mac, and didn't
> want to buy a PC to run MapSource.
> MapSource will run well on PC hardware that G/E will refuse to run on.


And Google Earth runs better on his PowerMac than any current version
of MapSource.

So, how is this even relevant?

/Kent
--
"So there I was surrounded by all these scary creatures
They were even scarier than what Microsoft call features"
- C64Mafia: Forbidden Forest (Don't Go Walking Slow).
Gene S. Berkowitz

2007-03-22, 7:33 am

In article < 46017f4e$0$90264$147
26298@news.sunsite.dk>,
nospam@nospam.invalid says...
> Den Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:36:06 -0400 skrev Gene S Berkowitz:
>
> And Google Earth runs better on his PowerMac than any current version
> of MapSource.
>
> So, how is this even relevant?
>
> /Kent


It's relevant, because, just maybe, the OP does not want to keep moving
his GPSR from the PC (used to load maps via MapSource) to his Mac (used
to load tracks & waypoints via G/E).

--Gene
Kent Friis

2007-03-22, 12:33 pm

Den Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:59:33 -0400 skrev Gene S Berkowitz:
> In article < 46017f4e$0$90264$147
26298@news.sunsite.dk>,
> nospam@nospam.invalid says...
>
> It's relevant, because, just maybe, the OP does not want to keep moving
> his GPSR from the PC (used to load maps via MapSource) to his Mac (used
> to load tracks & waypoints via G/E).


How often do you load maps? I loaded maps ONCE on mine, when I got it.
Next time I'll need to do that will be either when I get a bigger memory
card, or when I get CN EU v9.

The rest of the time, he will be moving it not between the PC and Mac,
but between his car and the Mac. Why would he need to boot up an old
PC, when everything he needs (apart from MapSource, which he only
needs maybe once per year) is on the Mac?

/Kent
--
"So there I was surrounded by all these scary creatures
They were even scarier than what Microsoft call features"
- C64Mafia: Forbidden Forest (Don't Go Walking Slow).
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Oliver Fleming

2007-03-23, 10:33 am

I just checked, The latest update 4.0.2722

19:44 Queensland Australia

Oliver Fleming

<dold@79.usenet.us.com> wrote in message news:etkkuc$1kt$1@bl
ue.rahul.net...
> In sci.geo.satellite-nav Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote:
>
> GE - free - 4.0.2735, on RHEL AS 3, update 8, P3-800MHz, 256MB RAM.
>
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> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
>



dold@79.usenet.us.com

2007-03-23, 12:33 pm

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Oliver Fleming <ojfleming@internode.on.net> wrote:
> I just checked, The latest update 4.0.2722


> 19:44 Queensland Australia


> Oliver Fleming


The current Linux download, which is a text files called
GoogleEarthLinux.bin has a label in it that notes that it is version
4.0.2735. The help-about in Linux googleEarth reports the same version
number. My installed copy on winXP is 4.0.2740, so that isn't the source
of your confusion.

I downloaded mine on Feb 19, but it's the same today at earth.google.com.
21607408 Feb 19 12:14 GoogleEarthLinux.bin
CRCsum="260352045"
label="Google Earth for GNU/Linux 4.0.2735.0"
Date of packaging: Tue Jan 30 15:11:52 PST 2007
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> <dold@79.usenet.us.com> wrote in message news:etkkuc$1kt$1@bl
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