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Connect Toshiba e740 Via USB to 60CSx?
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-22, 12:33 pm |
| I have one of these old Toshiba Pocket PCs and it has an accessory
which includes a USB port which I'd like to connect to my gps. I've
searched the web but have yet to find a way, as anytime I try to
connect them, the Toshiba asks for a driver.
I've checked the Toshiba support site and downloaded all the recent
fixes, patches, etc, but I can't make it work.
Anyone know if it's possible?
I probably need to look for a Toshiba support group, but thought I'd
ask here first.
Emm
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| "emmbeedee" <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have one of these old Toshiba Pocket PCs and it has an accessory
> which includes a USB port which I'd like to connect to my gps. I've
> searched the web but have yet to find a way, as anytime I try to
> connect them, the Toshiba asks for a driver.
>
> I've checked the Toshiba support site and downloaded all the recent
> fixes, patches, etc, but I can't make it work.
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> Anyone know if it's possible?
>
> I probably need to look for a Toshiba support group, but thought I'd
> ask here first.
>
> Emm
I don't have neither old Toshiba nor Garmin 60CSx, but if I wanna connect
the GPS to computer then the first thing I need to do is to check with
Garmin instead of Toshiba which may not have heard of Garmin.
So I would try to check with Garmin for the correct USB driver and go from
there.
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| Larry 2007-03-22, 10:33 pm |
| There is a CD that comes with the 60csx that includes the necessary driver.
You need to install this software to sync the gps with your computer.
"emmbeedee" <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have one of these old Toshiba Pocket PCs and it has an accessory
> which includes a USB port which I'd like to connect to my gps. I've
> searched the web but have yet to find a way, as anytime I try to
> connect them, the Toshiba asks for a driver.
>
> I've checked the Toshiba support site and downloaded all the recent
> fixes, patches, etc, but I can't make it work.
>
> Anyone know if it's possible?
>
> I probably need to look for a Toshiba support group, but thought I'd
> ask here first.
>
> Emm
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-23, 10:33 am |
| On Mar 22, 4:13 pm, "Larry" <ziggy_ca...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> There is a CD that comes with the 60csx that includes the necessary driver.
> You need to install this software to sync the gps with your computer.
>
Really? I think the only cd the gps came with was Trip and Waypoint
Manager but I'll check it and see. There's nothing I can find on the
Garmin site which looked like it would work.
I borrowed a friend's Haicom Compact Flash gps and was able to make
that work with the Toshiba but I'd rather hook up to the 60CSx.
Emm
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| "emmbeedee" <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 22, 4:13 pm, "Larry" <ziggy_ca...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Really? I think the only cd the gps came with was Trip and Waypoint
> Manager but I'll check it and see. There's nothing I can find on the
> Garmin site which looked like it would work.
What do you try to find at Garmin site?
> I borrowed a friend's Haicom Compact Flash gps and was able to make
> that work with the Toshiba but I'd rather hook up to the 60CSx.
>
> Emm
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-23, 12:33 pm |
| On Mar 23, 11:12 am, Joel <J...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
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> What do you try to find at Garmin site?
Anything that looked like a generic Pocket PC to Garmin USB driver.
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| "emmbeedee" <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 11:12 am, Joel <J...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
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> Anything that looked like a generic Pocket PC to Garmin USB driver.
*If* you connect your 60CSx to Toshiba using USB cable then USB driver is
what you need to get them to communicate with each other. Or these are
pretty much all you may need (I may include everything).
1. Toshiba with Windows OS installed (cuz Mapsource requires Windows to run)
2. MapSource (the main program or front-end program) needs to be installed
in order to operate the MAP data
3. If you want detail map then you will need to install the MAP data (like
City Navigator, Sity Select, Topo, MetroGuide, BlueChart etc..)
3. Then in order for the GPS to communicate with the computer you will need
to connect them together with USB cable (or whatever device the GPS uses).
4. After you have connected the GPS to computer you will need to tell
MapSource that you want to either get DATA from/to computer/GPS, or make a
connection etc.. MapSource may ask to confirm or auto-detect the connection
etc..
IOW, both GPS and computer need to be told what to do .... because they
can do lot more than communate with GPS/Computer.
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"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.plz> wrote in message
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> "emmbeedee" <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote:
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> What do you try to find at Garmin site?
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Ok first the good news, the e740 with the expansion pack does have USB
"host" (most don't) capabilities, The bad news is that you will need the
drivers. As of yet I have not seen any.
http://bevhoward.com/ is the website of a quite dedicated GPS user and pilot
that hangs out at microsoft.public.pocketpc If you were to contact him he
would point you in the right direction.
I'd say you were only going to find NMEA strings that can be used with the
pocket PC, these you can then used in either garmin's pocket PC application
using maps from the desktop offerings or with 3rd party aps like street and
trips. I'm sorry I can't be of more help but I hope you can find what you
need from those links
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-23, 10:33 pm |
| On Mar 23, 3:16 pm, Joel <J...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
> "emmbeedee" <emmbee...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> *If* you connect your 60CSx to Toshiba using USB cable then USB driver is
> what you need to get them to communicate with each other. Or these are
> pretty much all you may need (I may include everything).
I don't really need to do anything with the Toshiba-GPS combo except
get location data into Cachemate, so I don't need Mapsource installed.
I find the GPS is all I need for navigation, but the Toshiba is for
paperless caching and if Cachemate sees the gps, it can tell you which
caches are closest.
Emm
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-23, 10:33 pm |
| On Mar 23, 7:50 pm, "Brad" <bradley...@spammail.com> wrote:
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> Ok first the good news, the e740 with the expansion pack does have USB
> "host" (most don't) capabilities, The bad news is that you will need the
> drivers. As of yet I have not seen any.
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> http://bevhoward.com/is the website of a quite dedicated GPS user and pilot
> that hangs out at microsoft.public.pocketpc If you were to contact him he
> would point you in the right direction.
Thanks for the hint - I'll check the site.
>
> I'd say you were only going to find NMEA strings that can be used with the
> pocket PC, these you can then used in either garmin's pocket PC application
> using maps from the desktop offerings or with 3rd party aps like street and
> trips. I'm sorry I can't be of more help but I hope you can find what you
> need from those links
I think if I can get NMEA strings out, that would be just fine. I
believe Cachemate can work with those to find what it needs.I don't
need maps.
Emm
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| Jack Erbes 2007-03-24, 7:33 am |
| emmbeedee wrote:
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> I don't really need to do anything with the Toshiba-GPS combo except
> get location data into Cachemate, so I don't need Mapsource installed.
> I find the GPS is all I need for navigation, but the Toshiba is for
> paperless caching and if Cachemate sees the gps, it can tell you which
> caches are closest.
>
My experience in the past with PDAs and Pocket PC 2002 and 2003 was with
a couple of iPAQs. Those had a serial pair in the hot synch connector
and that was really the only practical way to get a GPS connected. That
serial pair was for hot synch but once I figured out it was there I was
able to use it.
That was a couple of years ago and at that time there were no USB
drivers or applications for the Win-CE OS that would use a USB port
connection for GPS data. I don't know how that situation stands now, it
may have changed some with all the newer GPS receivers having USB ports
on them.
I did wind up with a setup that worked well. I was using a Magellan
330M for the NMEA input and running Ozi-CE on the PDA. I did not have
any street and highway or vector mapping, it was being used with raster
image/bit mapped marine charts and topo maps that were in the public
domain. Ozi Explorer had a utility that could be used to convert the
charts and maps for use with Ozi-CE on the PDA.
The setup on that was a bit of a lash up because of the number of
pieces. There were two DC adapters, one each for GPS and PDA, the PDA,
the GPS receiver, and the cables for it all. But I eventually got it
all "packaged" in a small padded case with one DC power plug hanging out
and the PDA Velcroed to the top. I made some use of it on boats and on
my ATV.
I remember looking at the e740s at the time I was messing with that
because they were pretty attractively priced. But they seemed to have
some issues with battery power and general stability and I tried the
iPAQ 36xx and 37xx instead. The iPAQs had some issues too of course,
but were not too bad.
But I had to find the pinouts, make cables, and just generally figure it
all out.
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-24, 12:33 pm |
| On Mar 24, 7:51 am, Jack Erbes <jacker...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> I remember looking at the e740s at the time I was messing with that
> because they were pretty attractively priced. But they seemed to have
> some issues with battery power and general stability and I tried the
> iPAQ 36xx and 37xx instead. The iPAQs had some issues too of course,
> but were not too bad.
Thanks for the reply, Jack, I had looked at an iPaq 3850 as well for
this experiment but it's a bit of a slippery lump and I figured I'd
probably drop it. I didn't think it would fit in a pocket as well as
the Toshiba, too. The Toshiba was cheap, and came with a raft of
accessories, so I thought I'd play with it for a while.
But connecting to the Garmin via USB may be more trouble than it's
worth. As I mentioned earlier, I have a CF GPS in it right now and
that works well, but it's borrowed and I'll have to give it back
eventually. If I can find another CF one cheaply, then that may be the
way I'll go.
Anyway, I appreciate all the comments.
Emm
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> But I had to find the pinouts, make cables, and just generally figure it
> all out.
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> Jack
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> Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
> (also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| "emmbeedee" <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> But connecting to the Garmin via USB may be more trouble than it's
> worth. As I mentioned earlier, I have a CF GPS in it right now and
> that works well, but it's borrowed and I'll have to give it back
> eventually. If I can find another CF one cheaply, then that may be the
> way I'll go.
>=20
> Anyway, I appreciate all the comments.
Why not make a copy of the borrowed CF? unless you or the owner against
making the dupe.
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-24, 3:33 pm |
| On Mar 24, 12:04 pm, Joel <J...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
> "emmbeedee" <emmbee...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Why not make a copy of the borrowed CF? unless you or the owner against
> making the dupe.
I'd like to but it's hardware so making a copy of it would be
difficult. It's a Compact Flash GPS sold under the name of Haicom.
Emm
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| "emmbeedee" <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 24, 12:04 pm, Joel <J...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
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> I'd like to but it's hardware so making a copy of it would be
> difficult. It's a Compact Flash GPS sold under the name of Haicom.
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> Emm
Unless it has some type of copy protection which I have never heard of,
and I just make a wild guess base on how the CF works at my end (I am
digital camera user and I have about dozen of CF cards). Or the CF at my
end works just like a removable hard drive (storage) and I can copy, rename,
delete etc. just like regular hard drive.
BTW, I hope "CF" means "Compact Flash" not something else.
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-25, 4:33 am |
| On Mar 24, 6:53 pm, Joel <J...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
> "emmbeedee" <emmbee...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Unless it has some type of copy protection which I have never heard of,
> and I just make a wild guess base on how the CF works at my end (I am
> digital camera user and I have about dozen of CF cards). Or the CF at my
> end works just like a removable hard drive (storage) and I can copy, rename,
> delete etc. just like regular hard drive.
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> BTW, I hope "CF" means "Compact Flash" not something else.
A Compact Flash gps fits into a slot made for CF memory, but it's
quite a different device. The CF part is just the way it connects to
whatever computer/pda you're using with it.
Emm
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| Jack Erbes 2007-03-25, 4:33 am |
| emmbeedee wrote:
> On Mar 24, 12:04 pm, Joel <J...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
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> I'd like to but it's hardware so making a copy of it would be
> difficult. It's a Compact Flash GPS sold under the name of Haicom.
>
They have those in SD also, it is called CFIO and SDIO GPS. And they
had a SD model with 512 mb of flash memory in it too so you could have
both mapping and the SDIO GPS on a single slot PDA.
You can probably find CFIO GPS receivers on eBay.
The mouse style cabled GPS receivers with a PS/2 connector have adapter
cables for a number of PDAs, including the e740 according to this link:
http://www.diginetlink.com/ Altina_...ter_p/ad308.htm
That might give you a way to use the RS-232 pair from your 60CSx. You
might be able to connect the RS-232 pair out of your 60CSx into one of
those PS/2 PDA adapter cables and get it into a COM port on the e740.
The Holux, Altina, and Rikaline PDA adapter cables with the PS/2
connectors all have the same pinouts at the PS/2 connector. There is a
power pair and a RS-232 TXD/RXD pair, and maybe a TTL pair too.
I used a Win-CE utility called tty.exe to configure and test the COM
port on my iPAQs, it was sort of like having Hyperterminal. Tty.exe is
a pretty easy to find free ware
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA (jackerbes at adelphia dot net)
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine dot com)
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| "emmbeedee" <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote:
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> A Compact Flash gps fits into a slot made for CF memory, but it's
> quite a different device. The CF part is just the way it connects to
> whatever computer/pda you're using with it.
>
> Emm
Hahaha I am getting one surprise after other, or you keep giving me newer
surprise on newer message <bg>
Unless there is some very unique type of memory card that Garmin uses like
their very expensive and unique Program Data Card that I don't know. But if
it uses the regular or popular memory card that most non-Garmin users use
then it should be normal card.
Conpact Flash inside Compact Flash? I am guessing you mean to say
- The GPS has Compact Flash connector, or except Compact Flash memory card
- The card has MAP isn't Compact Flash or smaller then Compact Flash, and
it's inside of the Compact Flash *adapter* (or to use to connect other card
to Compact Flash connector).
... and I still don't see why you can't copy it. Or you may not be able
to buy that card? then why not try to copy directly to CF card?
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-25, 4:33 am |
| On Mar 24, 8:27 pm, Joel <J...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
> "emmbeedee" <emmbee...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hahaha I am getting one surprise after other, or you keep giving me newer
> surprise on newer message <bg>
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> Unless there is some very unique type of memory card that Garmin uses like
> their very expensive and unique Program Data Card that I don't know. But if
> it uses the regular or popular memory card that most non-Garmin users use
> then it should be normal card.
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> Conpact Flash inside Compact Flash? I am guessing you mean to say
>
> - The GPS has Compact Flash connector, or except Compact Flash memory card
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> - The card has MAP isn't Compact Flash or smaller then Compact Flash, and
> it's inside of the Compact Flash *adapter* (or to use to connect other card
> to Compact Flash connector).
>
> ... and I still don't see why you can't copy it. Or you may not be able
> to buy that card? then why not try to copy directly to CF card?
See an example here: http://www.jactron.co.uk/pretec/io/...mpactgps-lp.htm
Emm
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-25, 4:33 am |
| On Mar 24, 7:29 pm, Jack Erbes <jacker...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> emmbeedee wrote:
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> They have those in SD also, it is called CFIO and SDIO GPS. And they
> had a SD model with 512 mb of flash memory in it too so you could have
> both mapping and the SDIO GPS on a single slot PDA.
>
> You can probably find CFIO GPS receivers on eBay.
>
> The mouse style cabled GPS receivers with a PS/2 connector have adapter
> cables for a number of PDAs, including the e740 according to this link:
>
> http://www.diginetlink.com/ Altina_..._PD
A_...
>
> That might give you a way to use the RS-232 pair from your 60CSx. You
> might be able to connect the RS-232 pair out of your 60CSx into one of
> those PS/2 PDA adapter cables and get it into a COM port on the e740.
>
> The Holux, Altina, and Rikaline PDA adapter cables with the PS/2
> connectors all have the same pinouts at the PS/2 connector. There is a
> power pair and a RS-232 TXD/RXD pair, and maybe a TTL pair too.
>
> I used a Win-CE utility called tty.exe to configure and test the COM
> port on my iPAQs, it was sort of like having Hyperterminal. Tty.exe is
> a pretty easy to find free ware
>
> Jack
>
> --
> Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA (jackerbes at adelphia dot net)
> (also receiving email at jacker at midmaine dot com)
Thanks again Jack! You're just a walking encyclopedia, aren't you? ;)
Emm
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| Jack Erbes 2007-03-25, 10:33 am |
| emmbeedee wrote:
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> Thanks again Jack! You're just a walking encyclopedia, aren't you? ;)
>
> Emm
I guess that is a compliment? But maybe it sums me up pretty good.
I have a lot of hobbies and GPS is one of them. Also I'm retired, have
the time, a basement with a lot of GPS bits and pieces, and have messed
with it in a lot of different forms.
I was usually experimenting on the cheap and in a learn as I go way.
The amount you can learn as you go along just keeps stacking up.
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| emmbeedee 2007-03-25, 10:33 pm |
| On Mar 25, 10:02 am, Jack Erbes <jacker...@adelphia.net> wrote:
> emmbeedee wrote:
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> I guess that is a compliment? But maybe it sums me up pretty good.
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> I have a lot of hobbies and GPS is one of them. Also I'm retired, have
> the time, a basement with a lot of GPS bits and pieces, and have messed
> with it in a lot of different forms.
>
> I was usually experimenting on the cheap and in a learn as I go way.
> The amount you can learn as you go along just keeps stacking up.
>
> Jack
>
> --
> Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
> (also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
Of course it was a compliment! I find your advice very useful, though
I don't always agree; it's good to get another opinion from someone
who obviously knows their stuff.
Emm
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