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Author Re: GPSMAP 76CSx being sold cheaper than 60CSx
emmbeedee

2007-04-16, 10:33 am

On Apr 15, 4:43 pm, "Sam" <unkn...@unk.com> wrote:
> Just an observation. I am noticing the 76CSx being sold cheaper than
> the 60CSx and about a year ago, Garmin had a $100 off for this unit but
> only $50 off the 60CSx. Any idea why the difference in cost, besides
> the 76CSx looking rather ugly and not as rugged as the 60CSx?



Gotta say, I agree that the 76 series is rather ugly/homely compared
to the sleek 60 series. They're probably just as rugged, though.

I find the 60 fits nicely in my pocket (rarely leave it there though)
and it's just more ergonomic, in my opinion. They're probably selling
more 60s so they had to do something to clear out the 76s.

It would be interesting to see the sales figures.

Emm


Sam

2007-04-19, 4:33 am


"Dick" <w6ccd@k7yca.org> wrote in message
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: Last week I went to Sportsman's Warehouse to look at both of them. I
: held one in each hand, and frankly, I did like the feel of the 60 a
: lot better than the 76 which seemed more like an overgrown iPod. For
: what it's worth, the salesman said the main difference between the
: two, besides the fact that the 76 will float, was that the 60 was much
: more rugged. From a purely subjective viewpoint, the 60 certainly
: seemed to be a more rugged package.

Just looking at the pics, one can see the 60 is more rugged. And I
totally agree, the 76 looks like an Ipod.


Sam

2007-04-19, 4:33 am


"emmbeedee" <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote in message
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::
: Gotta say, I agree that the 76 series is rather ugly/homely compared
: to the sleek 60 series. They're probably just as rugged, though.
:
: I find the 60 fits nicely in my pocket (rarely leave it there though)
: and it's just more ergonomic, in my opinion. They're probably selling
: more 60s so they had to do something to clear out the 76s.
:
: It would be interesting to see the sales figures.

Sorry to say folks, but to me, the 60 looks more "manly" then the 76.


Happy Trails

2007-04-19, 4:33 am

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:45:03 GMT, "Sam" <unknown@unk.com> wrote:

>
>"emmbeedee" <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>::
>: Gotta say, I agree that the 76 series is rather ugly/homely compared
>: to the sleek 60 series. They're probably just as rugged, though.
>:
>: I find the 60 fits nicely in my pocket (rarely leave it there though)
>: and it's just more ergonomic, in my opinion. They're probably selling
>: more 60s so they had to do something to clear out the 76s.
>:
>: It would be interesting to see the sales figures.
>
>Sorry to say folks, but to me, the 60 looks more "manly" then the 76.
>



Nawwwh! It looks like a goddamn DILDO! All they gotta do is add the
vibrate instead of ring feature.




tvnav.com

2007-04-19, 12:33 pm


"Sam" <unknown@unk.com> wrote in message
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> Just looking at the pics, one can see the 60 is more rugged.


How so? I've seen hundreds of both and I don't think the 60 looks more
rugged and in fact I think the 76 looks more rugged. It doesn't have an
antenna sticking up that could get damaged. It's totally a preference thing
between the 60 and 76 style. For me it's much easier to use the 76 style one
handed but for others the 60 is easier to use one handed. The 60 also has a
belt clip that the 76 doesn't. The 76 also fits very nicely on some Sea-Doo
PWC's that have the GPS option (http://tinyurl.com/2wspf6) which is where I
use my 76's most of the time. ;)
--


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GPS@tvnav.com
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Bert Hyman

2007-04-19, 12:33 pm

GPS@tvnav.com (tvnav.com) wrote in
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> "Sam" <unknown@unk.com> wrote in message
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>
> How so?


Because the case is all bumpy, obviously :-)

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Dan Anderson

2007-04-19, 12:33 pm

Sam wrote:
> "Dick" <w6ccd@k7yca.org> wrote in message
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> :
> : Last week I went to Sportsman's Warehouse to look at both of them. I
> : held one in each hand, and frankly, I did like the feel of the 60 a
> : lot better than the 76 which seemed more like an overgrown iPod. For
> : what it's worth, the salesman said the main difference between the
> : two, besides the fact that the 76 will float, was that the 60 was much
> : more rugged. From a purely subjective viewpoint, the 60 certainly
> : seemed to be a more rugged package.
>
> Just looking at the pics, one can see the 60 is more rugged. And I
> totally agree, the 76 looks like an Ipod.


I certainly can't tell by looking at the pictures although shorter,
linear structures and more curved elements may be a bit stronger.
It is also important to know how thick the plastic is. To really tell
I'd want to take the case apart and measure the thickness, check
for extra thickness at stress points, look for reinforcing ribs,
and look for shock absorbing materials/structures, etc. Since taking
it apart isn't too practical, squeezing the case may give some
clues to it's thickness and strength.

The 60 series has a narrow extension that houses the antenna.
This is going to need some extra reinforcing to keep from
breaking in the event it is dropped and lands on this element.
The 60 series looks like has enough reinforcing for this
event; however, as I mention above, I'd need to take it
apart to see how thick the plastic is.

I have/had a 12XL, Venture, three 76 series models. They all
have cases that have a very solid feel. The Venture and 76
series models have an outer rubber "bumper" that can help
absorb a shock. Since the 60 series and 76 series are made
by the same company, I doubt there is much difference in
the strength of the cases.

--
Dan
(email change 2001 to 2004)
(www.gpsmap.net)
dold@81.usenet.us.com

2007-04-19, 3:33 pm

In sci.geo.satellite-nav tvnav.com <GPS@tvnav.com> wrote:
> The 60 also has a belt clip that the 76 doesn't


The belt clip is identical to the stick on clip I have for my cellphone,
purchased at some mall kiosk for $5. The sticky widget could be planted on
the back of a 76. the cellphone purchase had one belt clip and two sticky
posts. I put superglue on the pad after the original sticky popped off.

I put my cellphone in my pocket and belt-clip the 60 when I'm out and
about.



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dold@81.usenet.us.com

2007-04-19, 3:33 pm

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Dan Anderson < danderson2001@hotmai
l.com> wrote:

> The 60 series has a narrow extension that houses the antenna.
> This is going to need some extra reinforcing to keep from
> breaking in the event it is dropped and lands on this element.



Narrow? It's 3/4" diameter, and it has a buttress.

The rubber junk is nearly worn through on mine from bonking and bumping.
The G-force transmitted is of more concern than that plastic breaking.

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Jack Erbes

2007-04-19, 3:33 pm

dold@81.usenet.us.com wrote:
> In sci.geo.satellite-nav Dan Anderson < danderson2001@hotmai
l.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Narrow? It's 3/4" diameter, and it has a buttress.
>
> The rubber junk is nearly worn through on mine from bonking and bumping.
> The G-force transmitted is of more concern than that plastic breaking.



The clear winner is the 76 series with the Gilsson neoprene case. And
the case is cheaper now than when I bought mine:

http://tinyurl.com/26q73x

You get the perfect shape of the 76 and the case adds improved grip,
extra padding on the back and all sides, scratch protection for the
display, a belt/strap loop, a hanging loop, and a slightly mysterious
Velcro wrap around fastener that might be sized for smaller handle bars
or something like that.

I cut away the clear plastic from over the keys in the interest of
improving the digital interface. Been using it for almost a year and it
is still serviceable.

The 60 series is all mishapened, non-symmetrical, and ugly. I know that
it hurts to hear that but it is true.

Jack



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Kent Friis

2007-04-19, 3:33 pm

Den Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:15:39 -0400 skrev Jack Erbes:
> dold@81.usenet.us.com wrote:
>
> The clear winner is the 76 series with the Gilsson neoprene case.


So, if one buys enough extras, a 76 becomes "just as good" as a 60?

> You get the perfect shape of the 76


Perfect shape for those who prefer to read things upside down.

> and the case adds improved grip,


Which is only needed because you bought the one designed to look like
an iPod.

> a belt/strap loop, a hanging loop,


Which would have come by default if you hadn't selected the iPod wannabe.

> The 60 series is all mishapened, non-symmetrical, and ugly. I know that
> it hurts to hear that but it is true.


I bought a 60CSx *because* of the way it looked, like something meant
to be used, rather than something designed by an Apple-fan who was too
drunk to recognize up from down.

/Kent
--
"So there I was surrounded by all these scary creatures
They were even scarier than what Microsoft call features"
- C64Mafia: Forbidden Forest (Don't Go Walking Slow).
Steve Calvin

2007-04-19, 3:33 pm

Jack Erbes wrote:
>
> The clear winner is the 76 series with the Gilsson neoprene case. And
> the case is cheaper now than when I bought mine:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/26q73x
>
> You get the perfect shape of the 76 and the case adds improved grip,
> extra padding on the back and all sides, scratch protection for the
> display, a belt/strap loop, a hanging loop, and a slightly mysterious
> Velcro wrap around fastener that might be sized for smaller handle bars
> or something like that.
>
> I cut away the clear plastic from over the keys in the interest of
> improving the digital interface. Been using it for almost a year and it
> is still serviceable.
>
> The 60 series is all mishapened, non-symmetrical, and ugly. I know that
> it hurts to hear that but it is true.
>
> Jack
>


Ah, there's the voice of reason that I was waiting for! ;-D

I think most "bad mouthing" of the 76 is unfamiliarity vs
comparison. I compared them both and for me, the 76 won
hands down.

--
Steve
http://adirondackoutdoors.forumcircle.com
Dan Anderson

2007-04-19, 10:33 pm

Jonathan Spencer wrote:
> I've dropped my 60C from about a metre several times by accident.
> Generally, it's landed on concrete, including once directly onto the
> antenna. Apart from minor surface scuffs, it's undamaged and still
> working fine. I'd be very surprised if a 1m drop isn't part of the
> design specification, wouldn't you (rhetorical)?


I imagine the specification for both is similar.

I had a 76 fall out of my pocket in a boulder field - only a
few very small nicks on the faceplate and fortunately,
the screen was missed.

--
Dan
(email change 2001 to 2004)
(www.gpsmap.net)
Dan Anderson

2007-04-19, 10:33 pm

dold@81.usenet.us.com wrote:
> In sci.geo.satellite-nav Dan Anderson < danderson2001@hotmai
l.com> wrote:
>
>
> Narrow? It's 3/4" diameter, and it has a buttress.


Yes, relative to the 2.4" width (and approximately 1" depth - it's
curved) of the housing on the 76 series - we're comparing how
rugged the 60 is with how "fragile" the 76 is.

The buttress is one of the elements I was referring to when I
wrote: "The 60 series looks like has enough reinforcing for this
event."

In my opinion, all the Garmin handhelds are "rugged."

--
Dan
(email change 2001 to 2004)
(www.gpsmap.net)
Sam

2007-04-19, 10:33 pm


<dold@81.usenet.us.com> wrote in message
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: :
: Narrow? It's 3/4" diameter, and it has a buttress.
:
: The rubber junk is nearly worn through on mine from bonking and
bumping.
: The G-force transmitted is of more concern than that plastic breaking.

That's good you mentioned that. It "appearred" the rubber is more solid
in the pics. I have the same problem with my Etrex. Hmm. But, I can't
see any rubber on the 76CSx?


Sam

2007-04-19, 10:33 pm


"Happy Trails" <nomail@myplace.com> wrote in message
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: :
: Nawwwh! It looks like a goddamn DILDO! All they gotta do is add the
: vibrate instead of ring feature.

ROFLMAO!!


dold@81.usenet.us.com

2007-04-19, 10:33 pm

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
> The clear winner is the 76 series with the Gilsson neoprene case. And
> the case is cheaper now than when I bought mine:


Protective cases are for sissies.
Do you have a bra on your Jeep?

> Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net


Oh, wait... if you can surive Maine winters, I take back the "sissies"
part.


;-)

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dold@81.usenet.us.com

2007-04-19, 10:33 pm

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Steve Calvin <calvins@optonline.net> wrote:

> the 76 won hands down.


It's the fact that you have to use a 76 with your hands upside down that
seems to be annoying most 60 fans.

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Steve Calvin

2007-04-19, 10:33 pm

dold@81.usenet.us.com wrote:
> In sci.geo.satellite-nav Steve Calvin <calvins@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
> It's the fact that you have to use a 76 with your hands upside down that
> seems to be annoying most 60 fans.
>


Have you ever even seen a 76 let alone held it? Sure doesn't
sound like it. Or are you just rabble rousing?

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Steve
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dold@81.usenet.us.com

2007-04-19, 10:33 pm

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Steve Calvin <calvins@optonline.net> wrote:
> Have you ever even seen a 76 let alone held it? Sure doesn't
> sound like it. Or are you just rabble rousing?


That would be wild speculation on your part, wouldn't it?

I have used both. My son prefers his 76. I like the 60.

And yes, somewhere around post #42 in this thread, it's time to stop
hammering people for what is obviously a cosmetic preference.

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dold@81.usenet.us.com

2007-04-19, 10:33 pm

In sci.geo.satellite-nav emmbeedee <emmbeedee@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds pretty brainless to me.


Uh-oh, this thread has obviously gone on too long.

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Steve Calvin

2007-04-20, 7:33 am

dold@81.usenet.us.com wrote:
> In sci.geo.satellite-nav Steve Calvin <calvins@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> That would be wild speculation on your part, wouldn't it?
>
> I have used both. My son prefers his 76. I like the 60.
>
> And yes, somewhere around post #42 in this thread, it's time to stop
> hammering people for what is obviously a cosmetic preference.
>

That's what I've been trying to say all along. I shutup
about some comments but your last one regarding some drivel
badmouthing the 76 model about being "upside down" or some
such nonsense, drew me over the edge.

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Steve
http://adirondackoutdoors.forumcircle.com
dold@81.usenet.us.com

2007-04-20, 10:33 am

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Steve Calvin <calvins@optonline.net> wrote:
> badmouthing the 76 model about being "upside down" or some
> such nonsense, drew me over the edge.


I apologize. I thought that was so absolutely over the edge that it was
obvious that it was over the edge ;-(

I forget that some people believe in the absolute rightness of their
opinion, and the absolute wrongness and pigheadedness of anything else, that
they would seriously make that "upside down" statement.

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Falcon

2007-04-20, 3:33 pm

Now now children lets not get pedantic about this !

A bold Scotsman


Steve Calvin

2007-04-21, 3:33 pm

dold@81.usenet.us.com wrote:
> In sci.geo.satellite-nav Steve Calvin <calvins@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> I apologize. I thought that was so absolutely over the edge that it was
> obvious that it was over the edge ;-(
>
> I forget that some people believe in the absolute rightness of their
> opinion, and the absolute wrongness and pigheadedness of anything else, that
> they would seriously make that "upside down" statement.
>

Ya mean such as you? Appearently it's time to filter
sci.geo.satellite-nav - or at least you

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dold@81.usenet.us.com

2007-04-21, 10:33 pm

In sci.geo.satellite-nav Steve Calvin <calvins@optonline.net> wrote:
> dold@81.usenet.us.com wrote:
[color=darkred]
> Ya mean such as you? Appearently it's time to filter
> sci.geo.satellite-nav - or at least you


That's too bad.

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Steve Calvin

2007-04-22, 4:33 am

dold@81.usenet.us.com wrote:
> In sci.geo.satellite-nav Steve Calvin <calvins@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>
> That's too bad.
>

YMMV,in my opinion, I'm reading "XXXXXXX". Know's what he's
talking about or not. If he can't be civil to people than he
can go piss up a rope.


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