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| other-news@usa.net 2007-04-19, 10:33 am |
| I am looking at getting a Bluechart for use with my Quest on a small
boat.
I guess I won't be able to plot a course from where I am to where I
want to go, because the compass function is not there?
Can someone please confirm this? The dealer has no idea.
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| Bob L 2007-04-19, 10:33 am |
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>I am looking at getting a Bluechart for use with my Quest on a small
> boat.
>
> I guess I won't be able to plot a course from where I am to where I
> want to go, because the compass function is not there?
>
> Can someone please confirm this? The dealer has no idea.
You'll be fine. Quest has excellent off-road navigation features including
a "compass display" with course deviation indicator (CDI) and TracBack. It
will compute a course between waypoints and even supports multi-point
routing. You can display many different parameters in the configurable data
fields such as course, time to next, distance to next, time to destination,
sunrise/sunset, etc.
The Quest manual does not describe the off-road capabilities very well.
Under the Settings - Route Setup - Route Preference menu choose "Prompted"
so you will get to choose the "Off Road" mode whenever you start a route.
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| other-news@usa.net 2007-04-20, 10:33 pm |
| On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:50:09 -0400, "Bob L" <bob_lloyd@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>You'll be fine. Quest has excellent off-road navigation features including
>a "compass display" with course deviation indicator (CDI) and TracBack. It
>will compute a course between waypoints and even supports multi-point
>routing. You can display many different parameters in the configurable data
>fields such as course, time to next, distance to next, time to destination,
>sunrise/sunset, etc.
>
>The Quest manual does not describe the off-road capabilities very well.
>Under the Settings - Route Setup - Route Preference menu choose "Prompted"
>so you will get to choose the "Off Road" mode whenever you start a route.
>
Thank you very much!
You saved skin. I was going to get another unit.
I wonder why Garmin does this to themselves, hiding features?
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| Bob L 2007-04-20, 10:33 pm |
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> On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 09:50:09 -0400, "Bob L" <bob_lloyd@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
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> Thank you very much!
>
> You saved skin. I was going to get another unit.
>
> I wonder why Garmin does this to themselves, hiding features?
Glad to help. The Quest is marketed as a pocket size car navigator and they
stick to that theme in the manual. However it's really a crossover
outdoor/car GPS.
You should be able to load City and Bluechart maps simultaneously. Launch
Mapsource twice (one with the City maps you want and the other with the
Bluechart maps) then drag the maps from one window over to the other and
upload to the Quest from there. Use the Map Info menu under Settings to
select the map set you want to view on the Quest.
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| Jack Erbes 2007-04-21, 10:33 am |
| Bob L wrote:
<snip>
>
> Glad to help. The Quest is marketed as a pocket size car navigator and they
> stick to that theme in the manual. However it's really a crossover
> outdoor/car GPS.
>
> You should be able to load City and Bluechart maps simultaneously. Launch
> Mapsource twice (one with the City maps you want and the other with the
> Bluechart maps) then drag the maps from one window over to the other and
> upload to the Quest from there. Use the Map Info menu under Settings to
> select the map set you want to view on the Quest.
It's a shame that Garmin did not choose add a memory card to the Quest
or Quest II model and call it a Quest III or something.
The Quests all have the excellent navigation features that make it a
very good choice for all around use. The 115 MB memory limitation for
detail maps on the original Quest has not helped the sales any but
people that have them and can live with the amount of memory available,
love them.
The Quest II comes with City Navigator NT preloaded which means it has
at least 1 GB of internal memory but, again, the user is limited to 115
MB for supplemental mapping.
But 115 MB will store quite a bit of BlueChart data. You can get most
or all of the BlueChart data for the Eastern Seaboard of the U.S. in
about 100 MB of storage. It is sort of amazing how much smaller the
BlueChart data is stored as compared to stuff like City Navigator. The
CN stuff needs something like 8 to 10 times as much space to store a
comparable area.
Jack
--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| ABLE_1 2007-04-21, 10:33 pm |
| I have been reading this thread and got some good tips that I did not know
about my Quest. Thanks for the input.
As a side note I would like mention that so far I have found my Quest to be
fairly accurate concerning street addresses. That is for everybody else
that I have used it for to locate a new customer except my own address. My
address is 137 Any St. but the Quest thinks that I am at 154 Any St. Now I
am hoping that it is just not my address that is messed up in the data base.
Am I being single out or just having a little bad luck???
The other strange thing that I notice is that when I have a chosen it to
provide a Route Home and I decide to take a better route and it
re-calculates it persist on taking me back to the original path even though
it is by far a longer route. To the point that even after I have passed 4
exits and I am now at a more direct route to home it still insist that I
retrace my route to get back to the original route. The after the 5th
re-calculate it gets the hint that the path I am taking will now work and
gives me the direct route. I have tried a number of options on this and it
seems to make little difference. Is this a normal operation???
TIA
Les
> Bob L wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> It's a shame that Garmin did not choose add a memory card to the Quest or
> Quest II model and call it a Quest III or something.
>
> The Quests all have the excellent navigation features that make it a very
> good choice for all around use. The 115 MB memory limitation for detail
> maps on the original Quest has not helped the sales any but people that
> have them and can live with the amount of memory available, love them.
>
> The Quest II comes with City Navigator NT preloaded which means it has at
> least 1 GB of internal memory but, again, the user is limited to 115 MB
> for supplemental mapping.
>
> But 115 MB will store quite a bit of BlueChart data. You can get most or
> all of the BlueChart data for the Eastern Seaboard of the U.S. in about
> 100 MB of storage. It is sort of amazing how much smaller the BlueChart
> data is stored as compared to stuff like City Navigator. The CN stuff
> needs something like 8 to 10 times as much space to store a comparable
> area.
>
> Jack
>
> --
> Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
> (also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| "ABLE_1" < royboynospam@somewhe
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>I have been reading this thread and got some good tips that I did not know
>about my Quest. Thanks for the input.
>
> As a side note I would like mention that so far I have found my Quest to
> be fairly accurate concerning street addresses. That is for everybody
> else that I have used it for to locate a new customer except my own
> address. My address is 137 Any St. but the Quest thinks that I am at 154
> Any St. Now I am hoping that it is just not my address that is messed up
> in the data base. Am I being single out or just having a little bad
> luck???
The GSP database doesn't contain the coordinates of each individual house.
It computes the location based on a formula, with an error of margin.
Perhaps your street doesn't conform to the formula exact enough that it's
off by a few houses? Even 911 uses a formula. That's why my street skips a
house number between me and my neighbor's house. The distance between (our
frontdoors or driveways, can't remember which it is based on) exceeds the
allowable limit per 911 so the hosue number is skipped.
> The other strange thing that I notice is that when I have a chosen it to
> provide a Route Home and I decide to take a better route and it
> re-calculates it persist on taking me back to the original path even
> though it is by far a longer route. To the point that even after I have
> passed 4 exits and I am now at a more direct route to home it still insist
> that I retrace my route to get back to the original route. The after the
> 5th re-calculate it gets the hint that the path I am taking will now work
> and gives me the direct route. I have tried a number of options on this
> and it seems to make little difference. Is this a normal operation???
My 2610 does this as well. Hitting recalculate seems to get it to realize
it sooner. My guess is you have to be off (the originally computed) course
by a certain margin before it will do a FULL recalculate. Prior to that it
only does a PARTIAL to get you back on track.
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| ABLE_1 2007-04-22, 7:33 am |
| Thanks for the explanation, that actually does make sense.
Les
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> The GSP database doesn't contain the coordinates of each individual house.
> It computes the location based on a formula, with an error of margin.
> Perhaps your street doesn't conform to the formula exact enough that it's
> off by a few houses? Even 911 uses a formula. That's why my street skips
> a house number between me and my neighbor's house. The distance between
> (our frontdoors or driveways, can't remember which it is based on) exceeds
> the allowable limit per 911 so the hosue number is skipped.
>
>
> My 2610 does this as well. Hitting recalculate seems to get it to realize
> it sooner. My guess is you have to be off (the originally computed)
> course by a certain margin before it will do a FULL recalculate. Prior to
> that it only does a PARTIAL to get you back on track.
>
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| Bob L 2007-04-22, 10:33 pm |
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>
>
> My 2610 does this as well. Hitting recalculate seems to get it to realize
> it sooner. My guess is you have to be off (the originally computed)
> course by a certain margin before it will do a FULL recalculate. Prior to
> that it only does a PARTIAL to get you back on track.
>
Yes, it's normal. It will try to get you back onto the original route
quickly. If it recalcuated the whole route every time it might cause a
vicious cycle of recalcualation - all while you may be going the wrong way.
It does give up if you persist however.
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| Bob L 2007-04-22, 10:33 pm |
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> Bob L wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> It's a shame that Garmin did not choose add a memory card to the Quest or
> Quest II model and call it a Quest III or something.
>
> The Quests all have the excellent navigation features that make it a very
> good choice for all around use. The 115 MB memory limitation for detail
> maps on the original Quest has not helped the sales any but people that
> have them and can live with the amount of memory available, love them.
>
> The Quest II comes with City Navigator NT preloaded which means it has at
> least 1 GB of internal memory but, again, the user is limited to 115 MB
> for supplemental mapping.
>
> But 115 MB will store quite a bit of BlueChart data. You can get most or
> all of the BlueChart data for the Eastern Seaboard of the U.S. in about
> 100 MB of storage. It is sort of amazing how much smaller the BlueChart
> data is stored as compared to stuff like City Navigator. The CN stuff
> needs something like 8 to 10 times as much space to store a comparable
> area.
>
> Jack
>
> --
> Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
> (also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
I'm waiting for a Quest 3. Maybe based on the Nuvi (with SiRF) but with the
Quest's support for off-road navigation, Track Log, water resistance, and 20
hour battery life.
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| Jack Erbes 2007-04-23, 7:33 am |
| Bob L wrote:
<snip>
> I'm waiting for a Quest 3. Maybe based on the Nuvi (with SiRF) but with the
> Quest's support for off-road navigation, Track Log, water resistance, and 20
> hour battery life.
>
It may be a long wait. Garmin is not famous for taking and using
consumer input and suggestions and re-engineering products. It is more
likely that one of their newer products will meet or come close enough
to meeting your needs to be usable.
As it stands right now, if my 76Cx and 2610 were to disappear from my
life I would probably buy a zumo 450 or 550. Although it is not well
documented, those will do everything that the Quest, 2610, and 76Cx will
do as far as navigation features, routing, and track data collection.
It is also waterproof and has an internal battery but might not meet the
20 hour criteria.
Reading a couple of forums where there are a lot of zumo users, they are
not free from annoyances (the inability to turn some features like
automatic route recalculation on or off for example) but it is otherwise
a pretty useful unit.
Garmin's hardware engineering staff and software designers and
programmers seem to operate in complete isolation from the real world.
There is no evidence whatsoever that any of those people own or use GPS
receivers or have ever spoken with or listened to owners of any brand or
model.
Jack
--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| other-news@usa.net 2007-04-23, 10:33 pm |
| On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 07:40:23 -0400, Jack Erbes
<jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
>Bob L wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>It may be a long wait. Garmin is not famous for taking and using
>consumer input and suggestions and re-engineering products. It is more
>likely that one of their newer products will meet or come close enough
>to meeting your needs to be usable.
>
>As it stands right now, if my 76Cx and 2610 were to disappear from my
>life I would probably buy a zumo 450 or 550. Although it is not well
>documented, those will do everything that the Quest, 2610, and 76Cx will
>do as far as navigation features, routing, and track data collection.
>It is also waterproof and has an internal battery but might not meet the
>20 hour criteria.
>
>Reading a couple of forums where there are a lot of zumo users, they are
>not free from annoyances (the inability to turn some features like
>automatic route recalculation on or off for example) but it is otherwise
>a pretty useful unit.
>
>Garmin's hardware engineering staff and software designers and
>programmers seem to operate in complete isolation from the real world.
>There is no evidence whatsoever that any of those people own or use GPS
>receivers or have ever spoken with or listened to owners of any brand or
>model.
>
>Jack
I'll second most of that. They could have the BEST product in the
world if they listen to their customers. Some of the desktop software
is downright primitive.
Also their support is not that great at times. Several months ago I
had firmware update on the quest that would cause the quest to switch
off if you hit any key twice in less than a second. I could not
believe it. It affected every single Quest I could find with that
firmware. I tried to tell them, but they just said, it will go back in
the queue. Took 2 months for them to fix it. Current firmware seems
fine.
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| Bob L 2007-04-23, 10:33 pm |
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> As it stands right now, if my 76Cx and 2610 were to disappear from my life
> I would probably buy a zumo 450 or 550. Although it is not well
> documented, those will do everything that the Quest, 2610, and 76Cx will
> do as far as navigation features, routing, and track data collection. It
> is also waterproof and has an internal battery but might not meet the 20
> hour criteria.
>
The Zumo has a nice set of navigation features but battery life is short at
4 hours. No text to speech either. The main drawback for me is size. It's
much larger than the Quest - too big to pocket. A smaller Zumo - Zumo 2?
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