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| Bruce. 2007-06-04, 10:33 am |
| From the reviews, I see the car power cable attaches to the windshield mount
rather than in to the Nuvi directly. If the passenger wanted to hold the
Nuvi during the trip, can the car power cable be plugged in to the Nuvi
directly without using the windshield mount?
Thanks!
Bruce.
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| SamSez 2007-06-04, 10:33 am |
| "Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in
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> From the reviews, I see the car power cable attaches to the windshield
> mount rather than in to the Nuvi directly. If the passenger wanted to
> hold the Nuvi during the trip, can the car power cable be plugged in
> to the Nuvi directly without using the windshield mount?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bruce.
>
>
>
There is an internal battery, making wires unnecessary for handheld use.
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| Bruce. 2007-06-04, 10:33 am |
| "SamSez" <samtheman@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> There is an internal battery, making wires unnecessary for handheld use.
These are going to be LONG trips, longer than the battery could support,
hence my question. There are a couple of states where suction cup
windshield devices are illegal.
Bruce.
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| I have the Nuvi 360 but I think the attachment is the same, you can check.
1. The unit can run off internal battery so the passenger can hold it
without a power cable.
2. The power cable does attach to the bracket. This enables you to simply
click the unit into and out of the bracket without plugging and unplugging
the power cable. It's an excellent way to handle it.
3. If you do want to remove the unit from the bracket and have the power
cord attached to the unit (e.g. the passanger wants to hold it for a LONG
time and not run off the internal battery), you can. Just unplug the power
cable from the bracket and plug it directly into the unit.
It is a very nice design, I think.
Chet
"Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> From the reviews, I see the car power cable attaches to the windshield
> mount rather than in to the Nuvi directly. If the passenger wanted to
> hold the Nuvi during the trip, can the car power cable be plugged in to
> the Nuvi directly without using the windshield mount?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bruce.
>
>
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| Bruce. 2007-06-04, 12:33 pm |
| "CGB" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> 3. If you do want to remove the unit from the bracket and have the power
> cord attached to the unit (e.g. the passanger wants to hold it for a LONG
> time and not run off the internal battery), you can. Just unplug the
> power cable from the bracket and plug it directly into the unit.
>
> It is a very nice design, I think.
Excellent. Thanks very much Chet. Hopefully mine will be delivered very
soon.
Bruce.
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| SamSez 2007-06-04, 10:33 pm |
| "Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in
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> "CGB" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Excellent. Thanks very much Chet. Hopefully mine will be delivered
> very soon.
>
> Bruce.
>
>
Would be a nice idea Chet, but the cable that plugs into the bracket will
not plug directly into the 650. Period.
Of course, there is nothing to stop you from poping the bracket itself
off the ball end of the suction arm and powering the unit through the
mount just as though it was still attached to the arm -- it only adds a
small lump to the center of the back -- but you still need the mount
itself to make the connection.
Though I still fail to see the point -- your passenger is going to tire
of holding the unit long before the battery runs out, at which point,
return it to the mount and recharge. While 'there are a couple of
states' where you can't attach it to the window, you can certainly attach
the included mount disk to your dash and attach the suction cup there,
avoiding all such legal issues.
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| Bruce. 2007-06-05, 10:33 am |
| "SamSez" <samtheman@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Would be a nice idea Chet, but the cable that plugs into the bracket will
> not plug directly into the 650. Period.
Rats. Sorry to hear that. I was really hoping that would work. Sigh.
But thanks for you help and information.
Bruce.
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| quietguy 2007-06-06, 4:33 am |
| Not on the Nuvi 6xx series. However, you can do this on the 3xx models
David
"Bruce." wrote:
> From the reviews, I see the car power cable attaches to the windshield mount
> rather than in to the Nuvi directly. If the passenger wanted to hold the
> Nuvi during the trip, can the car power cable be plugged in to the Nuvi
> directly without using the windshield mount?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bruce.
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| Bruce. 2007-06-06, 10:33 pm |
| "quietguy" <postings@REMOVE-TO-REPLYconfidential-counselling.com> wrote in
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> Not on the Nuvi 6xx series. However, you can do this on the 3xx models
Thanks much for the information David.
Bruce.
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| Harold Burton 2007-06-14, 3:33 pm |
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"Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "SamSez" <samtheman@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Rats. Sorry to hear that. I was really hoping that would work. Sigh.
How about : http://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=1371
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| SamSez 2007-06-17, 10:33 am |
| Harold Burton <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
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> http://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=1371
That is the same cable that comes with the unit, and like the supplied
cable, does not plug directly into the gps, but plugs into the bottom of
the mount with a connector that does not appear anywhere on the gps itself.
It seems silly that they did not follow the ipod scheme of simply using the
same connector everywhere -- wherein the docking connector is repeated on
the back of the dock, and any cord that plugs directly into the ipod can
alternately plug into the dock. Quite sensible...
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| Bruce. 2007-06-17, 10:33 am |
| "SamSez" <samtheman@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> It seems silly that they did not follow the ipod scheme of simply using
> the
> same connector everywhere -- wherein the docking connector is repeated on
> the back of the dock, and any cord that plugs directly into the ipod can
> alternately plug into the dock. Quite sensible...
I agree. I wish a single plug/connector had been used on both the gps and
on the dock so they're interchangeable. As you say, quite sensible.
Bruce.
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| Jack Erbes 2007-06-17, 10:33 am |
| SamSez wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i.burton@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
> 73A5F2. 14190514062007@comca
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>
>
> That is the same cable that comes with the unit, and like the supplied
> cable, does not plug directly into the gps, but plugs into the bottom of
> the mount with a connector that does not appear anywhere on the gps itself.
>
> It seems silly that they did not follow the ipod scheme of simply using the
> same connector everywhere -- wherein the docking connector is repeated on
> the back of the dock, and any cord that plugs directly into the ipod can
> alternately plug into the dock. Quite sensible...
It might be more complicated than it appears at first glance.
Some of the nuvi cables actually have radio receivers integrated into
them. And different receivers (cables) are needed for the U.S. and
European markets. The link above is for the cable that is not a
receiver, it is only a power cable, for use in all markets, but has to
use the same connector as the radio/power cable.
The receiver is going to need some kind of mount in a car. Having the
receiver easily popped into/out of the mount and plugging the
receiver/power cable plug into the mount facilitates separating the
receiver from everything so it can be used in hand or taken somewhere
for use with a PC or something like that.
The additional complexity of multiple I/O requirements and supplying and
maybe sharing power to multiple devices, along with getting a connector
in the mount that allows for quick removal (for portability and
security) probably all mandated a longer, narrower, multiple pin
connector.
I'm not saying what Garmin did was the best way to do it, but it is
becoming a more common thing as the capabilities of the receivers are
broadened.
Jack
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| SamSez 2007-06-17, 12:33 pm |
| Jack Erbes <jacker@midmaine.com> wrote in
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> SamSez wrote:
>
> It might be more complicated than it appears at first glance.
>
> Some of the nuvi cables actually have radio receivers integrated into
> them. And different receivers (cables) are needed for the U.S. and
> European markets. The link above is for the cable that is not a
> receiver, it is only a power cable, for use in all markets, but has to
> use the same connector as the radio/power cable.
>
> The receiver is going to need some kind of mount in a car. Having the
> receiver easily popped into/out of the mount and plugging the
> receiver/power cable plug into the mount facilitates separating the
> receiver from everything so it can be used in hand or taken somewhere
> for use with a PC or something like that.
>
> The additional complexity of multiple I/O requirements and supplying
> and maybe sharing power to multiple devices, along with getting a
> connector in the mount that allows for quick removal (for portability
> and security) probably all mandated a longer, narrower, multiple pin
> connector.
>
> I'm not saying what Garmin did was the best way to do it, but it is
> becoming a more common thing as the capabilities of the receivers are
> broadened.
>
> Jack
>
Regardless of what kind of radio receiver is involved in the cable [us,
eu, or none], the connector on the mount end of the cable is the same.
There is no reason that same connector could not have been used on the
gps directly. And it's not a question of number of pins -- the ipod
connector has 30 or so pins in a space smaller than the nuvi mount-to-gps
connector. And it's not a question of durability either -- I'm quite
sure the average ipod out there get considerably more abuse than the
average gps, with a good number more insertion operations being moved
from home to car to office, being quickly [not not too carefully] poped
in and out of various contraptions daily.
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| "Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "SamSez" <samtheman@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
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> I agree. I wish a single plug/connector had been used on both the gps =
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> on the dock so they're interchangeable. As you say, quite sensible.
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> Bruce.
I haven't digged deep enough info on the cable thingy, but just few days
with my Nuvi 680 I can smell that it's more than just a simple power
connector.
This is what I understand about the power-connector of Nuvi 680
- It provides DC power to the Nuvi, and probably act as charger to the
internal battery.
- It's also an antenna, receiver, and data storage etc. for MSN Direct
- It also a data transferring cable to transfer MSN Direct DATA from the
adapter to the Nuvi 680. Also, the adapter has built-in battey and can
continue downloading MSN Data up to 5-7 days.
The only thing I don't understand that many sources say that the adapter
MUST be connected to the cigar-lighter for it to continue to download =
DATA.
So I am guessing either the tip of the adapter acts as an ON/OFF switch,
else the whole information doesn't make no sense.
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| Jack Erbes <jacker@midmaine.com> wrote:
> SamSez wrote:
>
> It might be more complicated than it appears at first glance.
>
> Some of the nuvi cables actually have radio receivers integrated into
> them. And different receivers (cables) are needed for the U.S. and
> European markets. The link above is for the cable that is not a
> receiver, it is only a power cable, for use in all markets, but has to
> use the same connector as the radio/power cable.
>
> The receiver is going to need some kind of mount in a car. Having the
> receiver easily popped into/out of the mount and plugging the
> receiver/power cable plug into the mount facilitates separating the
> receiver from everything so it can be used in hand or taken somewhere
> for use with a PC or something like that.
>
> The additional complexity of multiple I/O requirements and supplying and
> maybe sharing power to multiple devices, along with getting a connector
> in the mount that allows for quick removal (for portability and
> security) probably all mandated a longer, narrower, multiple pin
> connector.
>
> I'm not saying what Garmin did was the best way to do it, but it is
> becoming a more common thing as the capabilities of the receivers are
> broadened.
>
> Jack
See my other message about the Adapter and Connector. And I agree with
what you are saying.
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| SamSez <samtheman@verizon.net> wrote:
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> Regardless of what kind of radio receiver is involved in the cable [us,=
=20
> eu, or none], the connector on the mount end of the cable is the same. =
=20
> There is no reason that same connector could not have been used on the=20
> gps directly. And it's not a question of number of pins -- the ipod=20
> connector has 30 or so pins in a space smaller than the nuvi =
mount-to- gps=20
> connector. And it's not a question of durability either -- I'm quite=20
> sure the average ipod out there get considerably more abuse than the=20
> average gps, with a good number more insertion operations being moved=20
> from home to car to office, being quickly [not not too carefully] poped=
=20
> in and out of various contraptions daily.
It's possible to get 3rd party connector that can connect directly to =
the
GPS unit instead of the dock (just guessing and if they can get the =
market
for this). I am looking at the connector on the back of my Nuvi 680 and =
it
has 10-connectors (pins).
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