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| nicpouliot@gmail.com 2007-06-14, 7:33 am |
| hi everyone,
been enjoying my 60csx a lot, I use it a lot on the road and on
assignments walking around.
Here's my question: I've been mounting my 60 to my window with the
suction cup mount, which so far is ok. The only problem is the rate at
which im buring batteries. Since i mount the unit on the upper left
hand corner of my front window, it;s a pain to try and run the power
cable over the my cigarette lighter.
I'm looking at the following bracket which is really nice and clean
http://www.bracketron.com/xmain/cus...004&yearto=2007
My only problem is trying to find "something" that will allow me to
attach the C clip onto that bracket? I already have the C clip from my
suction cup mount.
I don't know if this is any clear. If anyone has any help or
suggestions, let me know!
| |
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| nicpouliot@gmail.com wrote:
> hi everyone,
>
> been enjoying my 60csx a lot, I use it a lot on the road and on
> assignments walking around.
>
> Here's my question: I've been mounting my 60 to my window with the
> suction cup mount, which so far is ok. The only problem is the rate at
> which im buring batteries. Since i mount the unit on the upper left
> hand corner of my front window, it;s a pain to try and run the power
> cable over the my cigarette lighter.
>
> I'm looking at the following bracket which is really nice and clean
> http://www.bracketron.com/xmain/cus...004&yearto=2007
>
> My only problem is trying to find "something" that will allow me to
> attach the C clip onto that bracket? I already have the C clip from my
> suction cup mount.
>
> I don't know if this is any clear. If anyone has any help or
> suggestions, let me know!
Why not just buy a cigarette liter extension cord to give you a longer
reach?
Here on my mini-van I have 2 adapters 4 outlets and 3-outlets. And this
is what I have
- automobile Cooler/Heater
- Radar detector
- Battery Charger (I am a photographer so I recharge my batteries sometime)
- GPS
- Cell Phone charger
- Sometime MP3 player to keep me company on long trip
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| nicpouliot@gmail.com 2007-06-15, 7:33 am |
| Id prefer something clean, im not too big on having cables dangle
across the front window!
On Jun 14, 10:15 am, Joel <J...@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
> nicpoul...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Why not just buy a cigarette liter extension cord to give you a longer
> reach?
>
> Here on my mini-van I have 2 adapters 4 outlets and 3-outlets. And this
> is what I have
>
> - automobile Cooler/Heater
>
> - Radar detector
>
> - Battery Charger (I am a photographer so I recharge my batteries sometime)
>
> - GPS
>
> - Cell Phone charger
>
> - Sometime MP3 player to keep me company on long trip
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| Bill KB3GUN 2007-06-15, 3:33 pm |
| nicpouliot@gmail.com wrote:
> Id prefer something clean, im not too big on having cables dangle
> across the front window!
>
Why not just wire it directly to a power lead under the dash near the gps?
If you don't want to cut the cigaratte lighter plug off the cable, radio
shack sells a plug adapter.
--
Smitty
Somerset, PA
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| quietguy 2007-06-18, 4:33 am |
| I might be talking out of turn here, but before you cut the cig lighter plug
off check and make sure that it doesn't contain a voltage regulator - many of
the cig lighter plugs include a 12v to 5v voltage regulator az the Nuvi needs
5v to charge/be powered - I think
If what I think is correct, doing a direct connection to the car 12v will
very quickly (blink of an eye I expect) destroy your unit
David - who might be wrong about this, but....
Bill KB3GUN wrote:
> nicpouliot@gmail.com wrote:
> Why not just wire it directly to a power lead under the dash near the gps?
> If you don't want to cut the cigaratte lighter plug off the cable, radio
> shack sells a plug adapter.
> --
> Smitty
> Somerset, PA
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| Jack Erbes 2007-06-18, 10:33 am |
| quietguy wrote:
> I might be talking out of turn here, but before you cut the cig lighter plug
> off check and make sure that it doesn't contain a voltage regulator - many of
> the cig lighter plugs include a 12v to 5v voltage regulator az the Nuvi needs
> 5v to charge/be powered - I think
>
> If what I think is correct, doing a direct connection to the car 12v will
> very quickly (blink of an eye I expect) destroy your unit
>
> David - who might be wrong about this, but....
The Quest and Quest II are the only current Garmin products that use an
external DC-DC adapter to get a 5VDC input.
The other models take a range of input voltages and regulate it.
Any of the nuvi, zumo, or "c" series StreetPilots that can use the
optional 010-10747-03 Vehicle power cable will take a 13.8VDC nominal
input voltage.
The models that come with a power cable that has a receiver built into
it for the FM-TMC traffic info have a larger plug on them that houses
the receiver but those still route the automobile's input voltage to the
GPS. Needless to say, you don't want to cut the end off of the cables
that are receivers.
The models that will charge from a USB port are, of course, using the
5VDC that is an inherent part of the USB port. Some Garmin devices will
run off of USB port power, some will only use it for battery charging.
I think that all goes to "honoring" the 500 mA max draw allowed for USB
port.
It is a little baffling to try and figure it our from specs on the web
pages or the user's manuals because they list it in various ways for
different models. Things like 13.8V, 12/24V, 12-35V, etc.
Jack
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| Jack Erbes <jacker@midmaine.com> wrote:
> quietguy wrote:
>
> The Quest and Quest II are the only current Garmin products that use an
> external DC-DC adapter to get a 5VDC input.
>
> The other models take a range of input voltages and regulate it.
>
> Any of the nuvi, zumo, or "c" series StreetPilots that can use the
> optional 010-10747-03 Vehicle power cable will take a 13.8VDC nominal
> input voltage.
>
> The models that come with a power cable that has a receiver built into
> it for the FM-TMC traffic info have a larger plug on them that houses
> the receiver but those still route the automobile's input voltage to the
> GPS. Needless to say, you don't want to cut the end off of the cables
> that are receivers.
>
> The models that will charge from a USB port are, of course, using the
> 5VDC that is an inherent part of the USB port. Some Garmin devices will
> run off of USB port power, some will only use it for battery charging.
> I think that all goes to "honoring" the 500 mA max draw allowed for USB
> port.
>
> It is a little baffling to try and figure it our from specs on the web
> pages or the user's manuals because they list it in various ways for
> different models. Things like 13.8V, 12/24V, 12-35V, etc.
>
> Jack
I am still confusing after toying with the new Nuvi 680 on the 3rd day
<bg> I already cost me around $50 to fill the gas tank of my mini-van to
test the new toy.
- This morning I called Garmin to ask for the DVD map, and I asked a
technical question about.
a. The "Phone Disconnected" issue with the bluetooth and the tech told me
to check for newer newer firmware see if it will help
b. Then I asked about the Bluetooth version that mine says "version 0.00"
when I saw some screenshot of other says v2.xx. The tech suggested
me to use web-update which I did and downloaded the new Bluethooth
version. Nuvi 680 updated the firmware from v3.70 to v3.80 and it
reports updating Bluetooth version... but the About still say v0.00
- Back to the Power Adapter, I thought the car power adapter also act as
charger to the internal battery, but while talking to the tech he asked
me to check the Bluetooth version then Nuvi reported low-battery and
turned OFF. No, I didn't play with it without connecting to power source
for more than 5-10 mins.
So I am not so sure if Nuvi can charge during normal use or it can only
charge the battery via the USB connector (?)
.. and I will have to do lot of reading to learn more about this confusing
& expensive toy <bg>
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| Joel <Joel@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
<snip>
web=20[color=darkred
]
>=20
> I am still confusing after toying with the new Nuvi 680 on the 3rd day
> <bg> I already cost me around $50 to fill the gas tank of my mini-van =
to
> test the new toy.
>=20
> - This morning I called Garmin to ask for the DVD map, and I asked a
> technical question about.
>=20
> a. The "Phone Disconnected" issue with the bluetooth and the tech told=
me
> to check for newer newer firmware see if it will help
>=20
> b. Then I asked about the Bluetooth version that mine says "version =
0.00"
> when I saw some screenshot of other says v2.xx. The tech =
suggested
> me to use web-update which I did and downloaded the new Bluethooth
> version. Nuvi 680 updated the firmware from v3.70 to v3.80 and it
> reports updating Bluetooth version... but the About still say =
v0.00
>=20
> - Back to the Power Adapter, I thought the car power adapter also act =
as
> charger to the internal battery, but while talking to the tech he =
asked
> me to check the Bluetooth version then Nuvi reported low-battery and
> turned OFF. No, I didn't play with it without connecting to power =
source
> for more than 5-10 mins.
>=20
> So I am not so sure if Nuvi can charge during normal use or it can =
only
> charge the battery via the USB connector (?)
>=20
> .. and I will have to do lot of reading to learn more about this =
confusing
> & expensive toy <bg>
Confirmation -
The MSN Direct DC adapter connected to the dock does act as a charger. =
I
don't know if it charge during normal use or not, but if you turn the =
Nuvi
OFF (while connected to the MSN Direct adapter it will report it turn to
charging mode.
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| quietguy 2007-06-18, 10:33 pm |
| Fair enough if you are sure about this Jack, but can I ask where you got your info
from? Published specs relate input volts to the use of those cables that may
contain a voltage regulator - so I presume you must have access to circuit
diagrams or mfg data
David - just wanting to be sure
Jack Erbes wrote:
>
> Any of the nuvi, zumo, or "c" series StreetPilots that can use the
> optional 010-10747-03 Vehicle power cable will take a 13.8VDC nominal
> input voltage.
| |
| quietguy 2007-06-18, 10:33 pm |
| This contradicts Jacks advice that the cig plug just provides a direct connection to
the (nominal) 12v car battery supply as he claims the circuits for controlling voltage
(nd thus charging) are located in the Device (eg Nuvi etc) and not in the cig lighter
plug.
If what you say her is correct Joel (and I believe it is) then following Jacks advice
would have resulted in a very destroyed Nuvi - $500+ down the drain.
David - who takes a conservative view in these matters
Joel wrote:
>
> Confirmation -
>
> The MSN Direct DC adapter connected to the dock does act as a charger. I
> don't know if it charge during normal use or not, but if you turn the Nuvi
> OFF (while connected to the MSN Direct adapter it will report it turn to
> charging mode.
| |
| Jack Erbes 2007-06-18, 10:33 pm |
| quietguy wrote:
> Fair enough if you are sure about this Jack, but can I ask where you got your info
> from? Published specs relate input volts to the use of those cables that may
> contain a voltage regulator - so I presume you must have access to circuit
> diagrams or mfg data
>
> David - just wanting to be sure
I certainly don't want to give any incorrect or bad advice here. In
rereading the thread, we started out talking about 60 series handhelds
and finished up talking about Joel's nuvi 680. I have no access to
circuit diagrams or manufacturing data for either.
I have a 76Cx and have a DC adapter for it. That has two conductors
wired through a fuse, the output voltage is the same as the input
voltage. The specs in the user's manual for that list the input power
source for that as "two 1.5 volt AA batteries, USB power, 12V adapter
cable, or up to 36 VDC external power". So that goes to the 60CSx
mentioned in the original post.
I don't own the other model and am reading the user's manuals and/or the
specs on the web pages and/or the detailed specs links from those pages.
I have to draw some conclusions because Garmin is a little
inconsistent in the way they describe things in the spec sheets and
manuals.
As far as Joel's nuvi 680:
The nuvi 660 specs say the power input is "12-24Vdc and 100-240Vac,
Useage: 10W". The accessories listing says it can use the 010-10747-03
Vehicle Power Cable.
The nuvi 680 manual says the power input is "DC vehicle power using
included vehicle power cable or AC power using optional accessory.
Useage: 10W". The accessories listing says it can use the 010-10747-03
Vehicle Power Cable.
That vehicle power cable also appears to be used by all of the 600
series nuvii but I've not checked to make sure.
At any rate, Garmin info leads me to decide the 010-10747-03 Vehicle
Power Cable is a straight through power cable because of the
descriptions above and the photos of it on the web site. And also that
any GPS receiver that can use that cable is using the vehicle's supply
voltage and regulating the input voltage internally.
I just did some more checking and some of the 300 series nuvii do not
use that 010-10747-03 Vehicle Power Cable. They use a different one
that (looking at it in the photos) is larger, shaped differently, has a
different connector on it, and probably is a DC-DC inverter.
So I don't think I've mislead anyone or put anyone's hardware at risk
here unless I missed some point in one of the posts. But I do believe
that the power adapter I mentioned cannot be plugged into anything that
would be damaged as a result.
I don't know if the Vehicle Power Cable and the MSN Direct
receiver/power adapter have the same connector and both plug into the
same socket on the cradle. But if they do, the input voltage there is
either is the vehicle voltage or that port will tolerate that input
voltage without damage.
I would be very surprised to find that you can fry a $500 GPS receiver
by plugging the Vehicle Power Cable into the wrong socket but it is not
clear to me if there is one or two sockets on the cradle, one for the
power cable and a second for the MSN Direct cable.
The MSN Direct receiver/power adapter is quite different than the
Vehicle Power Cable. It looks like the extra size of the housing may be
to house the receiver and I'm sure that it probably provides a
regulated, lower voltage (5V?) to that.
Jack
| |
| Jack Erbes 2007-06-19, 7:33 am |
| Joel wrote:
<snip>
>
> - This morning I called Garmin to ask for the DVD map, and I asked a
> technical question about.
Did they agree to send you the DVD? It would be good to know if they
are still doing that.
Thanks for the other details too.
Jack
--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
| |
|
| Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Joel wrote:
> <snip>
>
> Did they agree to send you the DVD? It would be good to know if they
> are still doing that.
Yes, they do. First, they said that I don't need it because it's already
pre-loaded in the Nuvi 680. But I told them that I would need the map
installed on computer for Way-Point, to print the trip plan on paper to
compare with the GPS .. and to reinstall to the Nuvi just incase I delete
something from the internal memory etc.. and I don't want to send it back to
Garmin because of a minor accident etc..
I read some people having problem getting the map on DVD (most European
folks do), and I believe that's fair for Garmin to include a cheap DVD with
their expensive GPS. Also, I asked the tech if it needs "Unlock Code" and
he said NO (???)
> Thanks for the other details too.
>
> Jack
| |
|
| Jack Erbes <jacker@midmaine.com> wrote:
<snip>
> As far as Joel's nuvi 680:
>=20
> The nuvi 660 specs say the power input is "12-24Vdc and 100-240Vac,=20
> Useage: 10W". The accessories listing says it can use the =
010-10747- 03=20
> Vehicle Power Cable.
>=20
> The nuvi 680 manual says the power input is "DC vehicle power using=20
> included vehicle power cable or AC power using optional accessory.=20
> Useage: 10W". The accessories listing says it can use the =
010-10747- 03=20
> Vehicle Power Cable.
>=20
> That vehicle power cable also appears to be used by all of the 600=20
> series nuvii but I've not checked to make sure.
From what I read both Nuvi 660 and Nuvi 680 are same GPS *except* Nuvi =
680
has MSN Direct supported (FM Traffic is an opional, so I guess it just =
need
the FM Adpter from Nuvi 660?), so I think the DC adapter is similar to =
the
AC adapter which connect to the USB instead of the dock (like MSN =
Direct).
Also, I don't see Garmin has the MSN Direct adapter available (not it =
make
me worry if someone steal my MSN Direct adapter <bg> )
> At any rate, Garmin info leads me to decide the 010-10747-03 Vehicle=20
> Power Cable is a straight through power cable because of the=20
> descriptions above and the photos of it on the web site. And also that=
=20
> any GPS receiver that can use that cable is using the vehicle's supply=20
> voltage and regulating the input voltage internally.
>=20
> I just did some more checking and some of the 300 series nuvii do not=20
> use that 010-10747-03 Vehicle Power Cable. They use a different one=20
> that (looking at it in the photos) is larger, shaped differently, has a=
=20
> different connector on it, and probably is a DC-DC inverter.
>=20
> So I don't think I've mislead anyone or put anyone's hardware at risk=20
> here unless I missed some point in one of the posts. But I do believe=20
> that the power adapter I mentioned cannot be plugged into anything that=
=20
> would be damaged as a result.
>=20
> I don't know if the Vehicle Power Cable and the MSN Direct=20
> receiver/power adapter have the same connector and both plug into the=20
> same socket on the cradle. But if they do, the input voltage there is=20
> either is the vehicle voltage or that port will tolerate that input=20
> voltage without damage.
Months before I got my Nuvi 680, I did checked with the FM Receiver
cable/adapter and Garmin has a list of different cable's for different =
Nuvi
model's. So, I guess they must have different socket design
> I would be very surprised to find that you can fry a $500 GPS receiver=20
> by plugging the Vehicle Power Cable into the wrong socket but it is not=
=20
> clear to me if there is one or two sockets on the cradle, one for the=20
> power cable and a second for the MSN Direct cable.
The MSN Direct adapter also provide power for the Nuvi 680, so no need =
to
connect the power cable to the USB socket
> The MSN Direct receiver/power adapter is quite different than the=20
> Vehicle Power Cable. It looks like the extra size of the housing may =
be=20
> to house the receiver and I'm sure that it probably provides a=20
> regulated, lower voltage (5V?) to that.
The MSN Direct adapter has
- Built-in internal battery which may last for 5-7 days in order for it =
to
continue to collect MSN Direct data to transfer to the Nuvi (when connect=
to
the MSN Direct).
I read that in order for the MSN Direct to collect data when CAR is not
running, the MSN Direct adapter has to be connected to the Cigar-Liter. =
So
I am guessing the connector may act as a ON/OFF switch?
- MSN Direct adapter connect to the dock, and the connector has 10-pins. =
I
read Nuvi 680 has built-in FM reciever (like Nuvi 660) and can use FM
Traffic instead of MSN Direct, so I guess the Nuvi 660 can be used with =
Nuvi
680 and the Nuvi 680 will be able to use FM Traffic
=20
> Jack
| |
| Jack Erbes 2007-06-19, 10:33 am |
| Joel wrote:
> Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, they do. First, they said that I don't need it because it's already
> pre-loaded in the Nuvi 680. But I told them that I would need the map
> installed on computer for Way-Point, to print the trip plan on paper to
> compare with the GPS .. and to reinstall to the Nuvi just incase I delete
> something from the internal memory etc.. and I don't want to send it back to
> Garmin because of a minor accident etc..
I'm glad to hear that your logic prevailed over theirs. If new buyers
that want it for the same reasons keep asking for it, maybe Garmin will
start including it again.
You can't reinstall or update your preloaded mapping from a retail DVD.
There is a warning about that here and a link to the page that
explains how updates can be done:
http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/...rce/citynav.jsp
When you get an update from Garmin they send it to you for free and you
have to go online and unlock it. If it is not a free update you have to
pay for it at that time.
If you are supposed to be getting it at no charge the unlock system
determines that from the certificates and codes in the package. Once,
when I was supposed to be getting an update at no cost, the unlock
system would not let me have it for free. I called Garmin tech support
(1 800 800 1020) and talked to someone and they sent me an unlock code
by email.
> I read some people having problem getting the map on DVD (most
> European folks do), and I believe that's fair for Garmin to
> include a cheap DVD with their expensive GPS. Also, I asked
> the tech if it needs "Unlock Code" and
> he said NO (???)
I'm not sure if they'll send you a retail package, update package, or
what. I don't think an update package for a preloaded GPS receiver will
work because those do not install MapSource and put the mapping on the
PC as far as I know. So I think you'll get something like a retail
package.
A retail package includes either one (today's policy) or two (prior
policy) unlocks. That unlock is obtained by using the software serial
number and certificate in the package. You have to go online, create a
My Garmin account if you don't already have one, tell it your Unit I.D.,
and it will generate an unlock code for you. You enter that into the
MapSource install and you're up and running.
If you're new to it, MapSource is an application that hosts any and all
Garmin optional mapping packages you may have. When you buy one of
those and install it, it first installs MapSource and then the mapping
data. If you add any more mapping it is added to the selection(s) and
you choose one from MapSource.
I have an older version of MetroGuide, City Navigator, U.S. Topo, and
BlueChart marine mapping installed on mine and can shift from one to
another as I look at my routes and waypoints and a given location.
Pretty handy actually.
Jack
--
Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
| |
|
| Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Joel wrote:
>
> I'm glad to hear that your logic prevailed over theirs. If new buyers
> that want it for the same reasons keep asking for it, maybe Garmin will
> start including it again.
>
> You can't reinstall or update your preloaded mapping from a retail DVD.
> There is a warning about that here and a link to the page that
> explains how updates can be done:
>
> http://www8.garmin.com/cartography/...rce/citynav.jsp
>
> When you get an update from Garmin they send it to you for free and you
> have to go online and unlock it. If it is not a free update you have to
> pay for it at that time.
That is what I am guessing, but I just want to get Garmin to do the right
service for the paid customer, and will go from there depending on how thing
may turn out. But when I heard the tech told me that it doesn't require
UNLOCK then few things popped in my mind.
- It's a free (locked) version that requires to be unlocked, or just to use
on computer only.
- Or a fat chance that because Nuvi 860 comes with City Navigator so they
may have an universial version for all Nuvi 680 etc.. IOW, if Garmin
doesn't provide the service to the paid customers then they are the thief,
and we don't have to respect them
> If you are supposed to be getting it at no charge the unlock system
> determines that from the certificates and codes in the package. Once,
> when I was supposed to be getting an update at no cost, the unlock
> system would not let me have it for free. I called Garmin tech support
> (1 800 800 1020) and talked to someone and they sent me an unlock code
> by email.
That's what I have in mind, and will see what they send me. BTW, this is
what I have in mind
- I may make a backup of the map in the internal memory just incase thing
may go wrong, and I don't want to pay Garmin for the service. Unless no
charge within 1 year.
- Since I am having some issue with the Nuvi 680 doesn't display the
Bluetooth version. I may send the Nuvi to Garmin to get the problem fixed
(I hope they cover the shipping cost like some companies do). But right
now, I will need the Nuvi for a 4 hrs trip by the end of this month.
BTW, last nite the Bluetooth worked fine .. I didn't try the phone but at
least no "Phone Disconnected".. so right now just 1-ON 1-OFF <bg>
>
> I'm not sure if they'll send you a retail package, update package, or
> what. I don't think an update package for a preloaded GPS receiver will
> work because those do not install MapSource and put the mapping on the
> PC as far as I know. So I think you'll get something like a retail
> package.
I have no idea what I will get, but I think 80-90% chance that I may get
the free (locked) version, but I do believe that we all should get the
UNLOCKED version as we paid for it.
> A retail package includes either one (today's policy) or two (prior
> policy) unlocks. That unlock is obtained by using the software serial
> number and certificate in the package. You have to go online, create a
> My Garmin account if you don't already have one, tell it your Unit I.D.,
> and it will generate an unlock code for you. You enter that into the
> MapSource install and you're up and running.
That I do understand and I hate it! And that is what I have been dealing
with my Ciry Navigator v4.01 with the combination of my StreetPilot & WinXP
that I have to reinstall WinXP once awhile (months or years) and I have to
reinstall Mapsourse and go through all the doggy style over and over.
> If you're new to it, MapSource is an application that hosts any and all
> Garmin optional mapping packages you may have. When you buy one of
> those and install it, it first installs MapSource and then the mapping
> data. If you add any more mapping it is added to the selection(s) and
> you choose one from MapSource.
This is my 4th Garmin GPS and have been using Garmin GPS for nearly a
decade now. On my very earlier Garmin III+ (small mono GPS) I had
MetroGuide & Topo installed and switched between them. Well, the memory is
so tiny for even a smart of 1 map, but I like to mess around with the new
toy
> I have an older version of MetroGuide, City Navigator, U.S. Topo, and
> BlueChart marine mapping installed on mine and can shift from one to
> another as I look at my routes and waypoints and a given location.
> Pretty handy actually.
This is one of the reason why I ordered the 8GB SDHC just to make sure I
have plenty of room for all the junks. I am not MP3 junkie, but because the
price of memory card (especially SDHC) is dirt cheap these day, so I may try
to install several different type of map to the external memory.
Thanks for the information.
> Jack
| |
|
| Joel <Joel@NoSpam.plz> wrote:
<snip>
serial=20[color=dark
red]
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> That I do understand and I hate it! And that is what I have been =
dealing
> with my Ciry Navigator v4.01 with the combination of my StreetPilot & =
WinXP
> that I have to reinstall WinXP once awhile (months or years) and I have=
to
> reinstall Mapsourse and go through all the doggy style over and over.
The DVD has arrived (very good job of Garmin to ship overnite), but it
doesn't come with the 25-characters uses to unlock it. Unless it doesn't
require the 25-charcters (I haven't tried) but I don't think it's any
different than other. Or it's just a free (locked) DVD.
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| quietguy 2007-06-20, 10:33 pm |
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Jack Erbes wrote:
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> At any rate, Garmin info leads me to decide the 010-10747-03 Vehicle
> Power Cable is a straight through power cable because of the
> descriptions above and the photos of it on the web site. And also that
> any GPS receiver that can use that cable is using the vehicle's supply
> voltage and regulating the input voltage internally.
Jack as you suggested that it would be OK to cut off the cig lighter plug and connect
that lead directly to the 12v car supply, considering the consequences for the owner of
the GPS if you are wrong I'd suggest that you should only give that sort of advice when
you are certain you are right.
>
> I just did some more checking and some of the 300 series nuvii do not
> use that 010-10747-03 Vehicle Power Cable. They use a different one
> that (looking at it in the photos) is larger, shaped differently, has a
> different connector on it, and probably is a DC-DC inverter.
I have both the 310 and 660 models of Nuvi - the vehicle power cables are different,
but I assume (assume, not know) that the difference is related to the 660 having a
built-in FM xmitter that allows it to play through a car radio - with my 310 I had buy
a FM xmitter thingo that takes its audio from the Nuvi earphone socket to do that.
>
> I would be very surprised to find that you can fry a $500 GPS receiver
> by plugging the Vehicle Power Cable into the wrong socket
Me too - but why I have persevered with this discussion is that the issue which I was
concerned about was the suggestion of cutting off the cig plug and connecting directly
to the car 12v supply thus bypassing any voltage regulator that the cig light plug
might contain.
I might add that I have pulled a few cig lighter plugs apart to use the voltage
regulaters they contain in micro-processor projects I have been working on - hence my
suspicions about the Nuvi plugs
I might add Jack that it is a pleasant change to engage in polite debate for a change -
while I think you may be wrong Jack, I acknowledge you as one of the good guys in the
forum
cheers
David
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