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Nuvi 660 12v power adapter
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| WSZsr 2007-06-15, 10:33 pm |
| The 12v power adapter is huge, barely fits in the outlet, and blocks my cup
holder. I do not plan to use the traffic feature. Is a smaller adapter
available?
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| Alan Biddle 2007-06-15, 10:33 pm |
| I use a Y-adapter which uses two short cords, which has a smaller
plug, and brings the jacks far enough away that it does not block
anything. I have a use for the second jack, but alternatively, you
can get a simple extension. Radio Shack, Pep Boys, etc, all have
them.
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Alan
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| Jack Erbes 2007-06-15, 10:33 pm |
| WSZsr wrote:
> The 12v power adapter is huge, barely fits in the outlet, and blocks my
> cup holder. I do not plan to use the traffic feature. Is a smaller
> adapter available?
Garmin sells a auto power adapter that does not have the FM-TMC receiver
built into it, I think that is smaller:
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=1371
And the nuvi can also be powered via its mini-USB port. There are after
market auto to mini-USB power adapters that are reputed by the sellers
to work with the nuvi 660. Here is a typical one:
http://tinyurl.com/yqozve
I cannot vouch for that seller or the goods, that is just an example.
Jack
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| missingdata 2007-06-16, 10:33 am |
| On Jun 15, 11:19 pm, Jack Erbes <jac...@midmaine.com> wrote:
> WSZsr wrote:
>
> Garmin sells a auto power adapter that does not have the FM-TMC receiver
> built into it, I think that is smaller:
>
> https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=1371
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> And the nuvi can also be powered via its mini-USB port. There are after
> market auto to mini-USB power adapters that are reputed by the sellers
> to work with the nuvi 660. Here is a typical one:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yqozve
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> I cannot vouch for that seller or the goods, that is just an example.
>
> Jack
Jack - The 6xx nuvi series can be charged via usb, but not
'powered'. As soon as power is detected on the usb connector, the
units go into PC-connected mode. I saw a reference somewhere where
you can short two pins together and therby modify that behavior, but I
have not investigated further. I couldn't get your tiny link to work
through my isp -- perhaps that seller is claiming to supply a modified
cable. But I can verify that 'standard' usb cables with 'standard' AC-
>usb or 12V-lighter-plug->usb jacks simply put the 6xx into PC mode.
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| Jack Erbes 2007-06-16, 10:33 am |
| missingdata wrote:
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> Jack - The 6xx nuvi series can be charged via usb, but not
> 'powered'. As soon as power is detected on the usb connector, the
> units go into PC-connected mode. I saw a reference somewhere where
> you can short two pins together and therby modify that behavior, but I
> have not investigated further. I couldn't get your tiny link to work
> through my isp -- perhaps that seller is claiming to supply a modified
> cable. But I can verify that 'standard' usb cables with 'standard' AC-
You're right, I had forgotten about that behavior on the nuvi. And the
seller does not mention that the cable was only good for charging. Here
is a long URL from a search for "nuvi dc" that will produce some
candidates of possible interest:
http://search.ebay.com/search/searc...vi+dc&category0
I'm not sure of the details, but I think that mini-USB cables are
sometimes given a "personality" by adding a resistor of a specific value
in the plug (which has one more conductor than the standard USB plug).
That is what accounts for some devices that will not charge from generic
chargers and have to have the more expensive OEM charger to be charged.
And that may also have to do with the nuvi that go into Mass Storage
Mode when connected and account for the fact that you may be able to
modify the behavior by modifying a cable.
I sometimes use a mini-USB cable and auto DC adapter to power my 76Cx
when I'm using it on cards and boats. The mini-USB socket on the 76Cx
is a little less robust than the proprietary round four pin DC/RS-232
connector so I have to be careful not to strain the connection any.
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| quietguy 2007-06-18, 4:33 am |
| In this case missing data you are missing some data - the Nuvi 660 can be
powered from its USB socket, and works quite happily whilst connected to and
powered from its AC charger - however, you are of course correct in that if
you connect the Nuvi to a USB port on a computer then it doesn't work (except
of course acting as an external HD drive that you can copy files to and from)
David
missingdata wrote:
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> Jack - The 6xx nuvi series can be charged via usb, but not
> 'powered'. As soon as power is detected on the usb connector, the
> units go into PC-connected mode.
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| SamSez 2007-06-18, 10:33 am |
| quietguy <postings@REMOVE-TO-REPLYconfidential-counselling.com> wrote in
news:4675CB4E.15ED11A7@REMOVE-TO-REPLYconfidential-counselling.com:
> In this case missing data you are missing some data - the Nuvi 660 can
> be powered from its USB socket, and works quite happily whilst
> connected to and powered from its AC charger - however, you are of
> course correct in that if you connect the Nuvi to a USB port on a
> computer then it doesn't work (except of course acting as an external
> HD drive that you can copy files to and from)
>
> David
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> missingdata wrote:
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My 650 goes into PC connected mode as soon as I attach an external USB
power supply -- a wall-wart usb supply, a car lighter usb supply, or PC.
It charges, but it stops acting like a gps.
Sam
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| Jack Erbes 2007-06-18, 12:33 pm |
| quietguy wrote:
> In this case missing data you are missing some data - the Nuvi 660 can be
> powered from its USB socket, and works quite happily whilst connected to and
> powered from its AC charger - however, you are of course correct in that if
> you connect the Nuvi to a USB port on a computer then it doesn't work (except
> of course acting as an external HD drive that you can copy files to and from)
>
> David
So. do you know, if you connect it to one of the after market DC outlet
plugs that has a USB socket on it, it does not go into the Mass Storage
Mode? Those are simply 5VDC DC-DC adapters.
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
> quietguy wrote:
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> So. do you know, if you connect it to one of the after market DC outlet
> plugs that has a USB socket on it, it does not go into the Mass Storage
> Mode? Those are simply 5VDC DC-DC adapters.
>
> Jack
The Nuvi 680 comes with 2 USB connectors
- A regular USB cable to connect the Nuvi 680 to PC, and it will act as a
removable drive that you can use to copy/move/delete file etc, just like any
other removable drive. That's it! you can't turn it on as GPS
- It also come with an AC Adapter with USB connector that you connect to the
Nuvi's USB socket to CHARGE the internal battery, and this will let you to
operate the Nuvi as GPS.
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| quietguy 2007-06-18, 10:33 pm |
| Interesting - I actually double checked that my Nuvi 660 worked when
connected to the supplied AC charger - my Nuvi 310 also works while
connected to the 660s AC charger - not sure why the difference between
these units and your 650.
When you say 'wall wart USB supply' do you mean the AC charger supplied
with your Nuvi?
David
SamSez wrote:
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> My 650 goes into PC connected mode as soon as I attach an external USB
> power supply -- a wall-wart usb supply, a car lighter usb supply, or PC.
> It charges, but it stops acting like a gps.
>
> Sam
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| quietguy 2007-06-18, 10:33 pm |
| I haven't tried any supplies other than the car connection and the AC charger
supplied with my Nuvi 660 so do not know.
However, I bought a GE blue tooth hands free earphone thingo for my mobile phone -
it has a mini USB socket to connect to its charger - but when I tried to charge it
from the mini USB plug on my Nuvi charger it went into some sort of lock up mode
and I had to do a full reset to get it to work - ie the Nuvi charger didn;t suit
for some reason
David
Jack Erbes wrote:
> quietguy wrote:
>
> So. do you know, if you connect it to one of the after market DC outlet
> plugs that has a USB socket on it, it does not go into the Mass Storage
> Mode? Those are simply 5VDC DC-DC adapters.
>
> Jack
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> --
> Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
> (also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| quietguy 2007-06-18, 10:33 pm |
| This is the same with the Nuvi 310 and the Nuvi 660
David
Joel wrote:
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> The Nuvi 680 comes with 2 USB connectors
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> - A regular USB cable to connect the Nuvi 680 to PC, and it will act as a
> removable drive that you can use to copy/move/delete file etc, just like any
> other removable drive. That's it! you can't turn it on as GPS
>
> - It also come with an AC Adapter with USB connector that you connect to the
> Nuvi's USB socket to CHARGE the internal battery, and this will let you to
> operate the Nuvi as GPS.
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| SamSez 2007-06-18, 10:33 pm |
| quietguy <postings@REMOVE-TO-REPLYconfidential-counselling.com> wrote in
news:467710D8.8CC3C686@REMOVE-TO-REPLYconfidential-counselling.com:
> Interesting - I actually double checked that my Nuvi 660 worked when
> connected to the supplied AC charger - my Nuvi 310 also works while
> connected to the 660s AC charger - not sure why the difference between
> these units and your 650.
>
> When you say 'wall wart USB supply' do you mean the AC charger supplied
> with your Nuvi?
>
> David
>
No, the 650 does not come with an AC charger. It only comes with the 12v
cable that plugs only into the mount -- not direct to the gps.
So, short of ordering the Garmin specific 'usb charger', I have only a
few choices on hand for trying 'usb power': several 'generic' ac wall-
warts that have a usb A jack [a Sony, a Victorinox and several no-name
generics], or a generic 12v lighter plug to usb A jack converter -- with
any one of which connected to a standard usb A to mini usb cable
connected to the gps.
All of the combinations of power supply and cable I have tried so far
cause the 650 to go into 'pc connected' mode [which, as noted by others,
usually requires a reset to recover from]. As noted in other posts,
there have been reports that shorting [or maybe a resistor between] the
proper pins in the mini usb plug will allow a 6xx to stay in 'gps mode'
while charging -- but normal [non Garmin] usb hardware does not seem to
work that way [likely because normal cables don't have shorted pins].
Also, just to confuse the issue further, I have seen posts that say that
the 3xx and 6xx don't behave the same way with respect to external usb
supplied power from 'normal' usb hardware -- specifically, that the 3xx
will stay in gps mode when powered over a 'normal' [non shorted] usb
cables from 'normal' [non shorted] supply sources.
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| Bruce. 2007-06-18, 10:33 pm |
| "SamSez" <samtheman@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> So, short of ordering the Garmin specific 'usb charger', I have only a
> few choices on hand for trying 'usb power':
You can get the Garmin one for the 650 for $14 plus shipping. I got it.
https://order.store.yahoo.net/ymix/...ionId=ysco.cart
Bruce.
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| SamSez 2007-06-18, 10:33 pm |
| "Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in
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> "SamSez" <samtheman@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> You can get the Garmin one for the 650 for $14 plus shipping. I got
> it.
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> Bruce.
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Sure, but that won't help me off the grid where I want to just use the
same usb power supply that I use for my cell phone, my bluetooth
headpiece, my pocket mp3 player, my camera, my photo card backup drive,
etc.
If I have AC available, I rarely need to know where I am [!!!], and
really don't mind the gps going into PC mode while charging.
It's ONLY when I don't have AC and I'm on DC that I would like to plug
power into the usb port and still have the gps behave as a gps.
It is totally beyond me why this functionality should be 'by design'.
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> "Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in
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> Sure, but that won't help me off the grid where I want to just use the
> same usb power supply that I use for my cell phone, my bluetooth
> headpiece, my pocket mp3 player, my camera, my photo card backup drive,
> etc.
>
> If I have AC available, I rarely need to know where I am [!!!], and
> really don't mind the gps going into PC mode while charging.
>
> It's ONLY when I don't have AC and I'm on DC that I would like to plug
> power into the usb port and still have the gps behave as a gps.
>
> It is totally beyond me why this functionality should be 'by design'.
Do you realize that a standard USB port can only supply 2 or 3 watts of
power? That is not enough to run the unit with full functionality.
David
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| SamSez 2007-06-19, 4:33 am |
| "David" <someone@some-where.com> wrote in news:HdIdi.88$K44.76
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> Do you realize that a standard USB port can only supply 2 or 3 watts of
> power? That is not enough to run the unit with full functionality.
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> David
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Let's see: the specs say the internal battery can run it for 7 hours.
If USB power [.5A] is not up to the task, that means that the internal
battery has a capacity GREATER than 3.5Ah. That would surprise me.
Sam
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| Jack Erbes 2007-06-19, 7:33 am |
| quietguy wrote:
> I haven't tried any supplies other than the car connection and the AC charger
> supplied with my Nuvi 660 so do not know.
>
> However, I bought a GE blue tooth hands free earphone thingo for my mobile phone -
> it has a mini USB socket to connect to its charger - but when I tried to charge it
> from the mini USB plug on my Nuvi charger it went into some sort of lock up mode
> and I had to do a full reset to get it to work - ie the Nuvi charger didn;t suit
> for some reason
>
> David
I've heard that some of the mini-USB chargers supplied with some cell
phones have a "personality" that the phone can read. And the phone will
not use the charger if it is not the right one.
I think the "personality" is probably generated by a resistor of a
specific value being used in the mini-USB plug. The mini-USB plug has
five leads in it instead of the four used in the USB A and B plugs.
That might explain some of this and also how a phone can be tricked into
using a non-OEM charger. And it may be that the nuvii can be tricked
into not going into the PC Connected mode by modifying a plug.
A little time spent with a VOM and the chargers and cables might give
some insight to the details of it all.
Jack
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Jack Erbes in Ellsworth, Maine, USA - jackerbes at adelphia dot net
(also receiving email at jacker at midmaine.com)
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| Jack Erbes <jackerbes@adelphia.net> wrote:
> quietguy wrote:
>
> I've heard that some of the mini-USB chargers supplied with some cell
> phones have a "personality" that the phone can read. And the phone will
> not use the charger if it is not the right one.
>
> I think the "personality" is probably generated by a resistor of a
> specific value being used in the mini-USB plug. The mini-USB plug has
> five leads in it instead of the four used in the USB A and B plugs.
>
> That might explain some of this and also how a phone can be tricked into
> using a non-OEM charger. And it may be that the nuvii can be tricked
> into not going into the PC Connected mode by modifying a plug.
>
> A little time spent with a VOM and the chargers and cables might give
> some insight to the details of it all.
>
> Jack
USB cable - besides the SIZE's there are at least 2 types of USB cables.
- Most USB cables come with electronic devices like camera, printer, GPS,
MP3 player, hard drive, DVD etc. usually same type of USB cable
- *BUT* if you have some type of enclosure-case for external hard drive
that can connect a memory card reader to the case to lets you transfer
data from memory card to the hard drive without computer, then it may
require a special USB cable. I own one of this (returned one because I
didn't know it required special USB cable)
The difference? I don't know exactly how they are wired, but I guess it's
similar to some floppy, parallel, network cable etc. some is straight and
some has twisted wires.
USB as charger - all USB cables provive some power to the device, and some
will store extra power to the internal battery (most older device don't).
Because each USB connector can only provice so much power, some device (like
external hard drive) requires more power for faster speed, they may have 2
USB sockets and allowing to connect to 2 USB ports for extra power.
Well, I don't study all these, but just happen to own some and ran into
people with some weird device.
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| quietguy 2007-06-20, 10:33 pm |
| I guess one easy solution would be to buy one of the Garmin AC chargers, and
check what voltage it supplies to the USB plug - I would think it is 5v.
If so, then dissasemble the power supply to see the connections etc and then
make up cable that mirrors it, but connects to your portable supply
David
SamSez wrote:
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> Sure, but that won't help me off the grid where I want to just use the
> same usb power supply that I use for my cell phone, my bluetooth
> headpiece, my pocket mp3 player, my camera, my photo card backup drive,
> etc.
>
> If I have AC available, I rarely need to know where I am [!!!], and
> really don't mind the gps going into PC mode while charging.
>
> It's ONLY when I don't have AC and I'm on DC that I would like to plug
> power into the usb port and still have the gps behave as a gps.
>
> It is totally beyond me why this functionality should be 'by design'.
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| Has anyone tried using the 12v mini USB power supply that comes with
the nuvi 3xx units?
On Jun 19, 8:27 am, Jack Erbes <jacker...@adelphia.net> wrote:[color=darkred
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> quietguy wrote:
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| quietguy 2007-06-21, 10:33 pm |
| No. But since I have both the Nuvis I will try it out as soon as I am well enough to
brave the cold
David - crook with some bug so staying indoors for a while
Dano wrote:
> Has anyone tried using the 12v mini USB power supply that comes with
> the nuvi 3xx units?
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