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flash memory on StreetPilot 2610
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| Raoul Watson 2007-09-16, 4:33 am |
| I can't seem to find an option to find out how much memory is left on my 2gb
flash card on the Streetpilot 2610.
The unit "info" doesn't seem to do it, nor any of the choices on the
MapSource software.
I am an old timer on the StreetPilot III but just got the 2610 because I
couldn't resist the good deal I got.
One thing that always bothered me on the SP III is the fact that I have to
rebuild and resend the maps as a whole. has this changed? What I am trying
to say is let's say I added a detailed map of let's say Atlanta, GA (by
adding this map to the list in mapsource map listing). is there a way to
just send Atlanta map (i.e. adding to the collection in the unit)?
Rebuilding and resending 30 to 40 maps takes a long time and I like to avoid
when making changes.
Thanks for any info..
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| Duracell Bunny 2007-09-16, 4:33 am |
| Raoul Watson wrote:
> I can't seem to find an option to find out how much memory is left on my 2gb
> flash card on the Streetpilot 2610.
>
> The unit "info" doesn't seem to do it, nor any of the choices on the
> MapSource software.
>
> I am an old timer on the StreetPilot III but just got the 2610 because I
> couldn't resist the good deal I got.
>
> One thing that always bothered me on the SP III is the fact that I have to
> rebuild and resend the maps as a whole. has this changed? What I am trying
> to say is let's say I added a detailed map of let's say Atlanta, GA (by
> adding this map to the list in mapsource map listing). is there a way to
> just send Atlanta map (i.e. adding to the collection in the unit)?
> Rebuilding and resending 30 to 40 maps takes a long time and I like to avoid
> when making changes.
>
> Thanks for any info..
>
>
Take the card out & put it into a USB card reader - it'll tell you how much
space you have left, and also enable you to transfer the map data a lot faster
than via USB transfer, if you have a USB2 card reader.
--
Karen
If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.'
Catherine Aird
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| Raoul Watson 2007-09-16, 10:33 am |
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"Duracell Bunny" <karen_oz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Take the card out & put it into a USB card reader - it'll tell you how
> much space you have left, and also enable you to transfer the map data a
> lot faster than via USB transfer, if you have a USB2 card reader.
>
> --
> Karen
>
Yup.. have tried that (being a software engineer).
But the stupid mapSource program when you select "Transmit to Device" and
selects the SD Card will transfer let's say Waypoints and Routes into a
directory called "Garmin\UserData" and files userdata.adm and
userdata.gpx --which is unusable onthe streetpilot (i.e. it doesn't show up
under routes or waypoints).
Only when I use the StreetPilot to receive the SD card data do I get the
file "GMSUPP.IMG" which works ..
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| Jerry M 2007-09-16, 12:33 pm |
| On Sep 16, 10:31 am, "Raoul Watson" <Wats...@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote:
> "Duracell Bunny" <karen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Yup.. have tried that (being a software engineer).
>
> But the stupid mapSource program when you select "Transmit to Device" and
> selects the SD Card will transfer let's say Waypoints and Routes into a
> directory called "Garmin\UserData" and files userdata.adm and
> userdata.gpx --which is unusable onthe streetpilot (i.e. it doesn't show up
> under routes or waypoints).
>
> Only when I use the StreetPilot to receive the SD card data do I get the
> file "GMSUPP.IMG" which works ..
Instead of loading different mapsets for different locations just load
the whole map you are using for your 2610 and all the maps will be
available to you anytime. Using map tool just draw a rectangle around
the whole map you are using and no more loading for you to do. You
only load maps to the 2gb card and routes and waypoints load directly
into the 2610's internal memory. You can even load other maps you have
for 2610 at same time in MapSource to the 2gb card. I have 5 different
map families loaded to my 2610s. You can load a little over 1900mb of
maps to your 2gb card. Use card reader will be much faster then
loading directly to the 2610. If your maps need unlocking make sure
you have unlock code for your 2610 loaded in MapSource before
downloading the maps.
Jerry
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| SamSez 2007-09-16, 3:33 pm |
| "Raoul Watson" < WatsonR@IntelligenCI
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> "Duracell Bunny" <karen_oz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yup.. have tried that (being a software engineer).
>
> But the stupid mapSource program when you select "Transmit to Device"
> and selects the SD Card will transfer let's say Waypoints and Routes
> into a directory called "Garmin\UserData" and files userdata.adm and
> userdata.gpx --which is unusable onthe streetpilot (i.e. it doesn't
> show up under routes or waypoints).
>
> Only when I use the StreetPilot to receive the SD card data do I get
> the file "GMSUPP.IMG" which works ..
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>
Time to break out the manual again? [I know, 'sofware engineer' and
'manual' don't go well together...]
The 2610 never supported waypoints and/or routes from the card. You always
had to download them to the gps itself. [I complained to garmin about that
from day 1. I thought it would also be nice if it wrote tracks to the card
too, so I could just leave the unit in the car and bring the card to and
from the pc -- but it just never worked that way.]
For the 2610, the only valid thing you can put on a card in a reader is the
file gmapsupp.img, and mapsource 6.13.2 [the latest version I think] still
does that just fine for me [at least with my 'latest' data -- v8].
And if you do have a 2610 plugged in the pc, it will put the waypoints and
routes in the unit where they belong when you tell it to download to it.
But if you tell it to write waypoints and routes to a card in a reader, it
will do that too, since some garmin hardware will read them from that
location -- but not a 2610. You can't exactly fault the software for not
knowing what hardware you may or may not own which you don't happen to have
plugged in at the time...
Now I did see reports of a version of mapsource which had trouble talking
to a 2610 -- either a bad or missing usb driver -- but that has nothing to
do with the reader operation.
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| Henry 2007-09-16, 10:33 pm |
| Raoul Watson wrote:
> Only when I use the StreetPilot to receive the SD card data do I get the
> file "GMSUPP.IMG" which works ..
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My 2610 uses a compact flash card not a SD card ;-)
Henry
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| Jerry M 2007-09-16, 10:33 pm |
| On Sep 16, 6:25 pm, Henry <Henry...@home.com> wrote:
> Raoul Watson wrote:
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> My 2610 uses a compact flash card not a SD card ;-)
>
> Henry
Mine is a compact flash card also. Big difference than a secure
digital card. A software engineer should know the difference.
Jerry
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| Raoul Watson 2007-09-16, 10:33 pm |
| Thanks.. best explanation I had..
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> "Raoul Watson" < WatsonR@IntelligenCI
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>
> Time to break out the manual again? [I know, 'sofware engineer' and
> 'manual' don't go well together...]
>
> The 2610 never supported waypoints and/or routes from the card. You
> always
> had to download them to the gps itself. [I complained to garmin about
> that
> from day 1. I thought it would also be nice if it wrote tracks to the
> card
> too, so I could just leave the unit in the car and bring the card to and
> from the pc -- but it just never worked that way.]
>
> For the 2610, the only valid thing you can put on a card in a reader is
> the
> file gmapsupp.img, and mapsource 6.13.2 [the latest version I think] still
> does that just fine for me [at least with my 'latest' data -- v8].
>
> And if you do have a 2610 plugged in the pc, it will put the waypoints and
> routes in the unit where they belong when you tell it to download to it.
>
> But if you tell it to write waypoints and routes to a card in a reader, it
> will do that too, since some garmin hardware will read them from that
> location -- but not a 2610. You can't exactly fault the software for not
> knowing what hardware you may or may not own which you don't happen to
> have
> plugged in at the time...
>
> Now I did see reports of a version of mapsource which had trouble talking
> to a 2610 -- either a bad or missing usb driver -- but that has nothing to
> do with the reader operation.
>
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| Raoul Watson 2007-09-16, 10:33 pm |
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"Jerry M" <moorheadbigj@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 16, 6:25 pm, Henry <Henry...@home.com> wrote:
>
> Mine is a compact flash card also. Big difference than a secure
> digital card. A software engineer should know the difference.
> Jerry
>
Obviously it has to be a CF for it to work on the 2610.
SD is for SanDisk. Some other brand does things a little bit different. SD
does not have anything proprietary hidden in the header --it's a straight
mass storage just like any hard drive.
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| Jack Erbes 2007-09-17, 4:33 am |
| Raoul Watson wrote:
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> One thing that always bothered me on the SP III is the fact that I have to
> rebuild and resend the maps as a whole. has this changed?
No, it is still the same.
> What I am trying
> to say is let's say I added a detailed map of let's say Atlanta, GA (by
> adding this map to the list in mapsource map listing). is there a way to
> just send Atlanta map (i.e. adding to the collection in the unit)?
> Rebuilding and resending 30 to 40 maps takes a long time and I like to avoid
> when making changes.
There is no way to do that. The Garmins only allow a single filename in
a specific location to be used for the supplemental detail maps. It is
the file named gmapsupp.img and it will be in the \garmin folder off of
the root of the memory card. So when you upload a map that file is
overwritten. And it you only upload one map, it will overwrite the
gmapsupp.img file with a file containing single map.
Like Karen says, you can speed up the process by putting the CF card in
a reader.
If you are uploading maps from a locked product (like City Navigator),
it is best to also attach the 2610 to the USB port (with no CF card in
it) so that MapSource will make sure that the unlock code for that Unit
I.D. is coded into the map image file. Otherwise the 2610 will not be
able to use the map file.
Jack
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| Jack Erbes 2007-09-17, 4:33 am |
| Raoul Watson wrote:
<snip>
> Obviously it has to be a CF for it to work on the 2610.
> SD is for SanDisk. Some other brand does things a little bit different. SD
> does not have anything proprietary hidden in the header --it's a straight
> mass storage just like any hard drive.
SD stands for Secure Digital, not SanDisk. Here is an authoritative
source for that info:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Secure_Digital_card[
/url]
Jack
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"Jack Erbes" wrote
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> If you are uploading maps from a locked product (like City Navigator), it
> is best to also attach the 2610 to the USB port (with no CF card in it) so
> that MapSource will make sure that the unlock code for that Unit I.D. is
> coded into the map image file. Otherwise the 2610 will not be able to use
> the map file.
>
I'm using the latest CN Europe which is locked to my unit and only ever
update the maps via a stand alone card reader. I've never had an issue with
the 2610 not being able to use the map file.
I update the file monthly when a new speed camera file is available so I
think I would have found a problem by now.
Mark
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| Raoul Watson 2007-09-17, 4:33 am |
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"Jack Erbes" <jacker@midmaine.com> wrote in message
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...<snip>
> If you are uploading maps from a locked product (like City Navigator), it
> is best to also attach the 2610 to the USB port (with no CF card in it) so
> that MapSource will make sure that the unlock code for that Unit I.D. is
> coded into the map image file. Otherwise the 2610 will not be able to use
> the map file.
>
> Jack
Most useful info I got --did not know that. Thanks!
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| Raoul Watson 2007-09-17, 4:33 am |
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"Jack Erbes" <jacker@midmaine.com> wrote in message
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> Raoul Watson wrote:
> <snip>
>
> SD stands for Secure Digital, not SanDisk. Here is an authoritative
> source for that info:
>
> [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Secure_Digital_card[
/url]
>
> Jack
My bad for using a made up abreviation. I was talking about 2610 so
obviously I could not be using a Secure Digital card --so I assume the
reader seeing "SD" automatically associate it to a brand rather than type..
my bad for this assumption--
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| Jack Erbes 2007-09-17, 10:33 am |
| Mark wrote:
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> "Jack Erbes" wrote
> I'm using the latest CN Europe which is locked to my unit and only ever
> update the maps via a stand alone card reader. I've never had an issue
> with the 2610 not being able to use the map file.
>
> I update the file monthly when a new speed camera file is available so I
> think I would have found a problem by now.
I say "it is best" but what I really mean is that doing it that way may
save some people some time in the long run.
I have two unlocked softwares under my MapSource install (City Navigator
and BlueChart) and those two softwares are unlocked for use with a total
of four different GPS receivers. I have three receivers of my own and I
also help a couple of non-technically inclined friends out by managing
their GPS receiver/MapSource interactions for them.
So in the past I have spent long periods of time creating and uploading
a map image file only to have it not work because it apparently was
prepared for the wrong unlock code. But I've found that if I have the
GPS receiver the file is intended for attached, MapSource gets it right.
There is no point in the upload process or in using MapSource where I
can choose one of my four unlock codes for use. MapSource does that for
me in some unexplained manner.
All this is a little mysterious as Garmin's documentation does not
really address the use of that many receivers, using card readers, using
them with or without GPS receivers attached, etc.
Jack
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| Jerry M 2007-09-17, 12:33 pm |
| On Sep 17, 10:45 am, Jack Erbes <jac...@midmaine.com> wrote:
> Mark wrote:
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> I say "it is best" but what I really mean is that doing it that way may
> save some people some time in the long run.
>
> I have two unlocked softwares under my MapSource install (City Navigator
> and BlueChart) and those two softwares are unlocked for use with a total
> of four different GPS receivers. I have three receivers of my own and I
> also help a couple of non-technically inclined friends out by managing
> their GPS receiver/MapSource interactions for them.
>
> So in the past I have spent long periods of time creating and uploading
> a map image file only to have it not work because it apparently was
> prepared for the wrong unlock code. But I've found that if I have the
> GPS receiver the file is intended for attached, MapSource gets it right.
>
> There is no point in the upload process or in using MapSource where I
> can choose one of my four unlock codes for use. MapSource does that for
> me in some unexplained manner.
>
> All this is a little mysterious as Garmin's documentation does not
> really address the use of that many receivers, using card readers, using
> them with or without GPS receivers attached, etc.
>
> Jack- Hide quoted text -
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Jack every unlock code you have installed in MapSource for a
particular product like CNNA 2008 will be included in the download
either to the 2610 directly or card reader. I know because I have 2
unlock codes in MapSource for both of my 2610s and can use that card
in both units. with no problems because it has both unlock codes in
the image file.
Jerry
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