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Gordon

2007-03-13, 3:33 pm

Recently traveled to Naples, Italy. Excellent trip. Directions to many sites
made possible by my Quest GPS. The day after returning home (Belgium) we
discovered that the GPS was missing from our luggage. So what do the thieves
now have? Directions from anywhere in the world to my front door.

Lesson #1 DO NOT USE YOUR ACTUAL LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. USE SOME
NEARBY BOGUS LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. DUH!!

"Life experience is a great teacher"

GMAN


Kent Friis

2007-03-13, 3:33 pm

Den Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:01:42 +0100 skrev Gordon:
> Recently traveled to Naples, Italy. Excellent trip. Directions to many sites
> made possible by my Quest GPS. The day after returning home (Belgium) we
> discovered that the GPS was missing from our luggage. So what do the thieves
> now have? Directions from anywhere in the world to my front door.


So what? Unless they happen to know that you have a Ferrari or
something, what can they use the address for? Break in? There are
millions of houses, going for yours specifically would be pointless.

/Kent
--
"So there I was surrounded by all these scary creatures
They were even scarier than what Microsoft call features"
- C64Mafia: Forbidden Forest (Don't Go Walking Slow).
Buddha

2007-03-13, 10:33 pm

I agree. Big Deal that they know your address. Stupid Post

Ron

"Kent Friis" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Den Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:01:42 +0100 skrev Gordon:
>
> So what? Unless they happen to know that you have a Ferrari or
> something, what can they use the address for? Break in? There are
> millions of houses, going for yours specifically would be pointless.
>
> /Kent
> --
> "So there I was surrounded by all these scary creatures
> They were even scarier than what Microsoft call features"
> - C64Mafia: Forbidden Forest (Don't Go Walking Slow).


Gordon

2007-03-13, 10:33 pm

Stupid Post you say. So the idea that someone who has no problem stealing
from you, now has an ability/opportunity stop by and see what else may be
available does not bother you two? People steal for whatever reason. My
privacy is very important to me. My homes has been broken into more than
once. So according to your replies it's no big deal.

By the way, do either of you happen to work at the airport in Naples?

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>I agree. Big Deal that they know your address. Stupid Post
>
> Ron
>
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Barry

2007-03-13, 10:33 pm

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:01:42 +0100, Gordon wrote:

> Recently traveled to Naples, Italy. Excellent trip. Directions to many sites
> made possible by my Quest GPS. The day after returning home (Belgium) we
> discovered that the GPS was missing from our luggage. So what do the thieves
> now have? Directions from anywhere in the world to my front door.
>
> Lesson #1 DO NOT USE YOUR ACTUAL LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. USE SOME
> NEARBY BOGUS LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. DUH!!
>
> "Life experience is a great teacher"
>
> GMAN


Thanks for the post ... Good & logical advice.
Larry

2007-03-13, 10:33 pm


"Gordon" <theman@themanshouse.net> wrote in message
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> Recently traveled to Naples, Italy. Excellent trip. Directions to many
> sites made possible by my Quest GPS. The day after returning home
> (Belgium) we discovered that the GPS was missing from our luggage. So what
> do the thieves now have? Directions from anywhere in the world to my front
> door.
>
> Lesson #1 DO NOT USE YOUR ACTUAL LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. USE SOME
> NEARBY BOGUS LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. DUH!!
>
> "Life experience is a great teacher"
>
> GMAN
>


Lesson #1 is NEVER, I mean NEVER pack electronic equipment in your
luggage!!! If you can't carry it with you, then you shouldn't be taking
it!


Dave S

2007-03-13, 10:33 pm

Gordon, we can all sympathize with your concern.

But what information does the current holder of that GPS have about you?
I'm sure you will agree that he doesn't have any more information than
if he randomly picks an address out of the phone book. Therefore you are
not at any more risk for break in than you were before the GPS was stolen.

Dave S.

Gordon wrote:
> Stupid Post you say. So the idea that someone who has no problem stealing
> from you, now has an ability/opportunity stop by and see what else may be
> available does not bother you two? People steal for whatever reason. My
> privacy is very important to me. My homes has been broken into more than
> once. So according to your replies it's no big deal.
>
> By the way, do either of you happen to work at the airport in Naples?
>
> "Buddha" <snyder1234@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:45f7323f$0$1718
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>
>

Joel

2007-03-13, 10:33 pm

"Gordon" <theman@themanshouse.net> wrote:

> Recently traveled to Naples, Italy. Excellent trip. Directions to many =

sites=20
> made possible by my Quest GPS. The day after returning home (Belgium) =

we=20

> discovered that the GPS was missing from our luggage. So what do the =

thieves=20
> now have? Directions from anywhere in the world to my front door.
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> Lesson #1 DO NOT USE YOUR ACTUAL LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. USE =

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> NEARBY BOGUS LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. DUH!!
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> "Life experience is a great teacher"
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> GMAN=20


Thanks for the useful lesson. 2morrow I will be sitting in my front
window with a shotgun to shoot anyone who looks at my house (or anyone =
know
where my house's located) <bg>

Oops! one of the waypoints is my home address that I sometime use to get
me home after being lost in some strange area <bg>
John Richards

2007-03-14, 10:33 am

"Larry" <ziggy_calif@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bsHJh.4750$JZ3.2676@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...
>
> Lesson #1 is NEVER, I mean NEVER pack electronic equipment in your
> luggage!!! If you can't carry it with you, then you shouldn't be taking
> it!


Absolutely!. The only things I put in my checked luggage are clothes
and toiletry items. High value items get hand-carried.

--
John Richards


NickTheBatMan

2007-03-14, 10:33 am

On 13 Mar, 20:01, "Gordon" <the...@themanshouse.net> wrote:
> Recently traveled to Naples, Italy. Excellent trip. Directions to many sites
> made possible by my Quest GPS. The day after returning home (Belgium) we
> discovered that the GPS was missing from our luggage. So what do the thieves
> now have? Directions from anywhere in the world to my front door.
>
> Lesson #1 DO NOT USE YOUR ACTUAL LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. USE SOME
> NEARBY BOGUS LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. DUH!!
>
> "Life experience is a great teacher"
>
> GMAN


Good point... If you live in the middle of nowhere in the countryside
then they're able to find you... Most people who live in the middle of
nowhere are quite likely to have all sorts of nice things that can be
stolen and not implying anything here but if they're able to loose
something as small as a high end GPS by putting it in their luggage
then they may well be easy pray for someone who's looking through
luggage for things like GPS etc...

ted

2007-03-14, 10:33 am

On Mar 13, 8:25 pm, Kent Friis <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Den Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:01:42 +0100 skrev Gordon:
>
>
> So what? Unless they happen to know that you have a Ferrari or
> something, what can they use the address for? Break in? There are
> millions of houses, going for yours specifically would be pointless.
>
> /Kent
> --
> "So there I was surrounded by all these scary creatures
> They were even scarier than what Microsoft call features"
> - C64Mafia: Forbidden Forest (Don't Go Walking Slow).


The same applies to having your home address on your luggage, when
travelling outward, if the thieves see it at your local airport they
will
'know' your house is likely to be empty.

--

Ted Ferenc (http://gpssharing.com)
This address used is maintained only for newsgroup posting.
Mail sent there may not be read by me for several days.

Joel

2007-03-14, 10:33 am

Barry <barry@none.no> wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:01:42 +0100, Gordon wrote:

My sympathies.
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>
>Thanks for the post ... Good & logical advice.


Well, most likely that GPS unit has been fenced already,
and they really got no information they couldn't have gotten
from your luggage tag or other identifying material in the
suitcase.
The real lesson is don't check valuables if at all
possible. I hand-carry my GPS unit, camera, etc.
--
Joel Plutchak "They're not people, they're HIPPIES!"
$LASTNAME at VERYWARMmail.com - Eric Cartman
Joel

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

"ted" <tedferenc@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 13, 8:25 pm, Kent Friis <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> The same applies to having your home address on your luggage, when
> travelling outward, if the thieves see it at your local airport they
> will
> 'know' your house is likely to be empty.


I agree! and the more I read the more I feel unsafe because the Phonebook
has my home address to. So the bank, insurance, and many others <bg>
Kent Friis

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

Den 14 Mar 2007 01:53:26 -0700 skrev ted:
> On Mar 13, 8:25 pm, Kent Friis <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> The same applies to having your home address on your luggage, when
> travelling outward, if the thieves see it at your local airport they
> will
> 'know' your house is likely to be empty.


It was lost on the way home. So no, the house is likely to not be
empty anymore.

/Kent
--
"So there I was surrounded by all these scary creatures
They were even scarier than what Microsoft call features"
- C64Mafia: Forbidden Forest (Don't Go Walking Slow).
Nick \(Scots\)

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm


"Gordon" <theman@themanshouse.net> wrote in message
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> Recently traveled to Naples, Italy. Excellent trip. Directions to many sites made
> possible by my Quest GPS. The day after returning home (Belgium) we discovered that the
> GPS was missing from our luggage. So what do the thieves now have? Directions from
> anywhere in the world to my front door.
>
> Lesson #1 DO NOT USE YOUR ACTUAL LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. USE SOME NEARBY BOGUS
> LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. DUH!!


You are getting hard time, for no reason. Thanks for the tip.

Sorry to hear your misfortune.

Nick



Carl

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

Barry wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:01:42 +0100, Gordon wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the post ... Good & logical advice.


What is logical about this advice? Assuming for some unknown reason the
thieves decide to pursue Gordon all the way to his home, any "nearby bogus"
waypoint he uses within his zipcode will allow them to find him easily
enough with a simple Yellow Book search. The protection of a nearby bogus
waypoint is only self-deception at best.

Unless he left his house or car keys along with his GPS unit, I agree with
the others who think it's unlikely people who steal GPS units out of
suitcases will go out of their way to burglarize your home. Not to mention
that they didn't even steal his luggage- just the GPS unit!.


Barry

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:34:06 -0400, Carl wrote:

> Barry wrote:
>
> What is logical about this advice? Assuming for some unknown reason the
> thieves decide to pursue Gordon all the way to his home, any "nearby bogus"
> waypoint he uses within his zipcode will allow them to find him easily
> enough with a simple Yellow Book search. The protection of a nearby bogus
> waypoint is only self-deception at best.
>
> Unless he left his house or car keys along with his GPS unit, I agree with
> the others who think it's unlikely people who steal GPS units out of
> suitcases will go out of their way to burglarize your home. Not to mention
> that they didn't even steal his luggage- just the GPS unit!.


True - but a logical idea because, from a security standpoint, it can't
hurt. It's a simple & free tip ... While not something I would drop
everything to do this minute, there's really no reason to not consider it.
Traveling with one less item containing your exact address information is
logical. Like network security ... extra layers of protection & minimizing
information risk is good.
Joel

2007-03-15, 4:33 am

"Nick \(Scots\)" <nick@nobody.com> wrote:
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> You are getting hard time, for no reason. Thanks for the tip.
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> Sorry to hear your misfortune.


I just hope that he will have his house sold soon to pass the misfortune
to newer owner <bg>
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> Nick=20


Tedtard79

2007-03-18, 3:05 am

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Gordon

2007-03-18, 4:33 am

Me Again,

As I think about it more I stand by my original post. I take the theft of
the GPS very seriously.

What besides the home location is on the GPS? Waypoints! I own a motorcycle
and love to travel. So in addition to the trip points there are waypoints to
motorcycle dealerships located along the route in case I have bike problems.
No Big Deal? I think it is because any fool will be able to deduce from the
waypoints , the brand of bike that I own, the auto I drive. Suppose I
collect stamps and have the waypoints of stamp dealers throughout the
countryside. Photographer, antique collector, gun collector.........any
half-assed thief will be able to decide if stopping by the house one day or
night could be profitable or not.just by viewing the waypoints.

So some of you who think that it's NO BIG DEAL should take a few moments and
rethink the issue.

I would like to see a locking pin number system or such incorporated into
the GPS unit. The system locks after x invalid pin attempts and you have to
call the Mfgr to get a code unlock. A cheap 50$ cell phone has it, why not a
800$ GPS.


"Gordon" <theman@themanshouse.net> wrote in message
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> Recently traveled to Naples, Italy. Excellent trip. Directions to many
> sites made possible by my Quest GPS. The day after returning home
> (Belgium) we discovered that the GPS was missing from our luggage. So what
> do the thieves now have? Directions from anywhere in the world to my front
> door.
>
> Lesson #1 DO NOT USE YOUR ACTUAL LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. USE SOME
> NEARBY BOGUS LOCATION AS YOUR HOME WAYPOINT. DUH!!
>
> "Life experience is a great teacher"
>
> GMAN
>



Mathias Körber

2007-03-18, 7:33 am

Dave S wrote:
> Your original point was about putting your home location on the GPS as a
> waypoint.


Wrong. it was about putting it as his 'home location'.

Now, my GPS (vista C) does not have such a feature, but others
may have. That would clearly point out where he lives.

However I do believe that it would be quite paranoid,
but a simple cure would be to use some nearby point
as the home location. It's not like he won know how to get home from there.
Gordon

2007-03-18, 7:33 am

My theory is simple and sound.

Thieves for the most part, work off of opportunity. Unless they're
cracked-out and just looking for a quick fix, they prefer the odds in their
favor. Using this logic, imagine a thief on your street of 5 houses. Which
houses are he interested in? The 4 that he does not know anything about? Or
the 1 that because of a lost notebook, remarks from a friend, a briefcase
that they found or stole, a lost checkbook, a conversation overheard at a
bar, or a stolen GPS, they now have an idea of what may or may not be
available in the house. At that point they will make a decision as to the
opportunity of that house based on the information that they have.

As I said in an earlier post, a reasonably intelligent person can make a few
basic assumptions as to the lifestyle of the owner of the GPS based on the
information it contains. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a fool living in
the past.

Did the thief grab the GPS to target me? No!
That was a ridiculous post. The GPS was grabbed because it was a crime of
opportunity.

Should I have hand carried the GPS? Yes!

Am I going to move or place armed security around my house? No!

Is it unlikely that something becomes of this? Probably!

Am I concerned that someone has this info? Yes!

Look guys, this was a simple post to start but has lost sight of my original
idea. It's no different that giving out your SSN, credit card info, etc.
"Take care of your personal information because there are people out there
that will use it to harm you."


"Mathias Körber" <mathias@koerber.org> wrote in message
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> Dave S wrote:
>
> Wrong. it was about putting it as his 'home location'.
>
> Now, my GPS (vista C) does not have such a feature, but others
> may have. That would clearly point out where he lives.
>
> However I do believe that it would be quite paranoid,
> but a simple cure would be to use some nearby point
> as the home location. It's not like he won know how to get home from
> there.



Kent Friis

2007-03-18, 7:33 am

Den Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:13:03 +0100 skrev Gordon:
>
> Look guys, this was a simple post to start but has lost sight of my original
> idea. It's no different that giving out your SSN, credit card info, etc.
> "Take care of your personal information because there are people out there
> that will use it to harm you."


An address is not personal information. The link between a person and
his address may be, but an address alone is not. And unlike credit card
info and SSN, an address by itself is no more usefull than "oh look,
there's a house right there".

As for whatever other information people may gain from your waypoints,
it has already been mentioned that they can still do this and just
look at the address tag on your suitcase, if they really believe that
flying all the way from Italy or wherever you GPS was stolen to your
house, just to see if you really have a motorcycle, or you are
doing advertising for motorcycle shops is worth it.

/Kent
--
"So there I was surrounded by all these scary creatures
They were even scarier than what Microsoft call features"
- C64Mafia: Forbidden Forest (Don't Go Walking Slow).
Joel

2007-03-18, 10:33 am

Gordon <theman@themanshouse.net> wrote:
>....any half-assed thief will be able to decide if stopping by
>the house one day or night could be profitable or not.just by
>viewing the waypoints.
>
>So some of you who think that it's NO BIG DEAL should take a few moments and
>rethink the issue.


Talk to a few law enforcement officers. They'll tell
you that (a) common criminals are dumb, and (b) all they're
interested in is getting easy cash by dumping items like
electronics as quickly as they can. If somebody were as
sophisticated as you imagine, they wouldn't need your GPS
receiver in order to target you.

>I would like to see a locking pin number system or such incorporated into
>the GPS unit.


That would seem reasonable, at least froma tehft-deterrence
POV.
--
Joel Plutchak "They're not people, they're HIPPIES!"
$LASTNAME at VERYWARMmail.com - Eric Cartman
peter

2007-03-18, 12:33 pm

Gordon wrote:
> My theory is simple and sound.

....
> As I said in an earlier post, a reasonably intelligent person can make a few
> basic assumptions as to the lifestyle of the owner of the GPS based on the
> information it contains. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a fool living in
> the past.


Against this rather far-fetched idea that some potential thief of your
GPS will have any interest in searching through waypoints and
tracklogs for clues about your lifestyle are the advantages of
continuing to include "HOME" as a waypoint.
1) It lets me conveniently let the unit determine a route to my house
from whereever I happen to be and to do so without first routing me to
somewhere nearby and then letting me figure out the rest of the trip.
2) If my GPS is lost and later found by an honest person (or possibly
recovered by an honest person, say a police official, after first
being stolen), then the "HOME" waypoint could be useful in getting it
back.

The chance of this second point might be rather small, but Garmin's
website reports at least one case:
http://www.garmin.com/whatsNew/adventures/story10.html
and I've also heard of a couple other cases from reports by
geocachers. To further improve the chances of getting my GPS back I
also include a phone number to call on the opening screen which
appears when it's turned on. I suppose someone sufficiently paranoid
would worry that a potential thief would gain access to a reverse-
directory listing of phone numbers vs. subscribers/addresses, but I
think that the benefits outweigh this risk.

Joel

2007-03-18, 10:33 pm

"peter" <prathman@comcast.net> wrote:

<snip>
> and I've also heard of a couple other cases from reports by
> geocachers. To further improve the chances of getting my GPS back I
> also include a phone number to call on the opening screen which
> appears when it's turned on. I suppose someone sufficiently paranoid
> would worry that a potential thief would gain access to a reverse-
> directory listing of phone numbers vs. subscribers/addresses, but I
> think that the benefits outweigh this risk.


I haven't lost any of my cellphone or photography gear yet to know if
there is any hornest people to feel good about living among some hornest
people <bg>, but I sometime drag along around 20+K worth of photography
gears and I have my Name & Phone # on most of my expensive gears.

And along with my GPS and car registration, business card etc. those =
those
have my home address and phone # too <bg>. Heck, you may even be able to
find my home address & phone number from internet (yellow/white page and
similar).

JBDragon

2007-03-18, 10:33 pm

Was does this say about YOU and Home Security? Broken into more then once?
What are the odds of that? With GOOD Home Security, you wouldn't have this
problem, and/or will be much less taken. Hell just some Security stickers
on the windows and a Sign out from will scare most thief's away right off
the bat and move on to a easier target. Watch the show on TV called "It
takes a Thief" on in the US, you can buy the first Season on DVD now I
believe. Lots and Lots of great things to learn how to protect yourself and
your Home. Watch how easily you can get into a home and rob a person blind,
to even worse if someone wanted. To even being sneaky and taking things and
leaving and you not even knowing. Having a HOME waypoint at your HOME as
the least of your worries. As it sounds now, your a easy target, GPS or No
GPS.


"Gordon" <theman@themanshouse.net> wrote in message
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> Stupid Post you say. So the idea that someone who has no problem stealing
> from you, now has an ability/opportunity stop by and see what else may be
> available does not bother you two? People steal for whatever reason. My
> privacy is very important to me. My homes has been broken into more than
> once. So according to your replies it's no big deal.
>
> By the way, do either of you happen to work at the airport in Naples?
>
> "Buddha" <snyder1234@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:45f7323f$0$1718
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>
>


JBDragon

2007-03-18, 10:33 pm

Yep, my Pocket PC right on the Opening screen has my Name, Address phone
number, and even my E-mail address. It has a Fingerprint scanner on it do
the Data is safe and if tried to many times will delete everything on it to
stock once again, but having my info on it helps me in case it's lost, or
misplaced. All the info on it is not a secret. There are many ways to
pretty much get any info you want on a person. Far more then they think you
can! Instead of worrying that your GPS might on a very, very, very slim
chance they use it to find your house to rob you, maybe think of better Home
Security. Good Alarm system with Motion detection and sensors on all Doors
and Windows, including a second story if you have it. Safe(Bolted to the
floor!!!), Good locks with deadbolts. Possibly window Lamination if needed
on any windows. Having Security signs on the windows and a large sign out
front will scare most thefts away to someplace easier. Loosing something
and having some good person return it to you because they could find you is
far more worth it.

"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.plz> wrote in message
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"peter" <prathman@comcast.net> wrote:

<snip>
> and I've also heard of a couple other cases from reports by
> geocachers. To further improve the chances of getting my GPS back I
> also include a phone number to call on the opening screen which
> appears when it's turned on. I suppose someone sufficiently paranoid
> would worry that a potential thief would gain access to a reverse-
> directory listing of phone numbers vs. subscribers/addresses, but I
> think that the benefits outweigh this risk.


I haven't lost any of my cellphone or photography gear yet to know if
there is any hornest people to feel good about living among some hornest
people <bg>, but I sometime drag along around 20+K worth of photography
gears and I have my Name & Phone # on most of my expensive gears.

And along with my GPS and car registration, business card etc. those those
have my home address and phone # too <bg>. Heck, you may even be able to
find my home address & phone number from internet (yellow/white page and
similar).

JBDragon

2007-03-18, 10:33 pm

"Joel" <plutchak@see.headers> wrote in message
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> Gordon <theman@themanshouse.net> wrote:
>
> Talk to a few law enforcement officers. They'll tell
> you that (a) common criminals are dumb, and (b) all they're
> interested in is getting easy cash by dumping items like
> electronics as quickly as they can. If somebody were as
> sophisticated as you imagine, they wouldn't need your GPS
> receiver in order to target you.
>
>
> That would seem reasonable, at least froma tehft-deterrence
> POV.


Yes, GOOD Home Security will Deter a thief to find a much easier and safer
target. Some people here just believe to much on what they see on TV or the
Movies. How many times have you heard of someone leaving the car running
or just leaving the keys in the Ignition to run into the store to get
something really quick only to have the car stolen? You think someone
followed them around until they saw that person be that dumb? NOOOOOO.
Same with your Home. Leave doors Unlocked while you make a trip to the store
and you could get robed. Bad Locks, Alarm not working or never use it as
it's a pain? Your almost asking for someone to come rob you! Have a Safe
but just leave it open? Not bolted to the floor? They are Thief's. They
want to make a easy quick buck. They don't want to work for it, if they
did, they'd get a real job.

Simon Slavin

2007-03-21, 4:33 am

On 17/03/2007, Gordon wrote in message
< 45fc6453$0$13866$ba6
20e4c@news.skynet.be>:

> I would like to see a locking pin number system or such incorporated
> into the GPS unit.




<http://www.gpsmagazine.com/2006/10/...review.php?page
=10>

Simon.
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Art

2007-09-11, 10:33 am

Geez, sounds like you guys live in camouflaged houses nobody knows exists.

If someone broke into your car a couple miles from home and stole your GPS,
your house keys, a gun and a pound of cocaine, then you might have something
to worry about. But a luggage handler hundreds of miles away? Why would he
care?

You can find my house in Google and Mapquest satellite shots, the phone
book, whitepages.com, and a million other places. Having a thief halfway
across the country able to drive right to my door because he's stolen my GPS
is not something I'll lose sleep over.

If it's such a big deal, erase your homepoint before you go on the trip.
You know how to find it again, don't you? Punch a button and put it back in
when you get home.

Besides, my biggest worry is that when the thief steals my GPS, he's going
to drive right to the first set point. It's only labeled 003, so I know his
curiosity will make him travel thousands of miles to find the Lions Club I
visited the day I got the unit.

I worry about them now.

Next, he'll probably hit 004, that little cabin in the Ozarks, on the river.
He'll like it there.

That's probably where we'll be waiting for him.


Joel

2007-09-11, 12:33 pm

"Art" <voice@arthadley.com> wrote:

<snip>
> That's probably where we'll be waiting for him.


Lesson #1

- Start with lesson #2

Lesson #3

- Start with lesson #4 <bg>
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