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Patrick

2008-01-23, 10:33 am

I use the suction-cup mount with the dash-mount disk that came with my
StreetPilot c340. Every so often, the suction-cup and GPS fall off when
the mount dries and looses the suction. What could I put on the
suction-cup to prevent the unit from falling off and not adversely
affect the rubber cup? I would think that a silicone based material
would harden the rubber, but what about a vegetable or petroleum based
oil? Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.
Tom H.

2008-01-23, 12:33 pm


http://home.att.net/~tbharvey/
"Patrick" <plmarkovic@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I use the suction-cup mount with the dash-mount disk that came with my
>StreetPilot c340. Every so often, the suction-cup and GPS fall off when
>the mount dries and looses the suction. What could I put on the
>suction-cup to prevent the unit from falling off and not adversely affect
>the rubber cup? I would think that a silicone based material would harden
>the rubber, but what about a vegetable or petroleum based oil? Any help or
>suggestions will be appreciated.


Just the opposite, silicone is less likely to do anything more than form a
liquid film on the surface and make a more effective seal. Depending on
which vegetable oil you use, oxidation to form a smelly, gooey or solid mess
is possible. Petroleum based oils are more likely to penetrate the rubber
and soften it. This softening can lead to diminished tear strength. My
preference would be silicone better than petroleum better than vegetable.

Tom
Ph. D. organic chemist, retired polymer chemist, and general science and
technology enthusiast.


Patrick

2008-01-23, 3:33 pm

Tom --

Good advice, thank you.

Tom H. wrote:
> http://home.att.net/~tbharvey/
>
> Just the opposite, silicone is less likely to do anything more than form a
> liquid film on the surface and make a more effective seal. Depending on
> which vegetable oil you use, oxidation to form a smelly, gooey or solid mess
> is possible. Petroleum based oils are more likely to penetrate the rubber
> and soften it. This softening can lead to diminished tear strength. My
> preference would be silicone better than petroleum better than vegetable.
>
> Tom
> Ph. D. organic chemist, retired polymer chemist, and general science and
> technology enthusiast.
>
>

tnom@mucks.net

2008-01-23, 3:33 pm


How about water.
John

2008-01-23, 10:33 pm


<tnom@mucks.net> wrote in message
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> How about water.


That's what I use. Just be careful in hot weather. My first one stuck to
the windshield after being left on for several days. Garmin replaced it
under warranty, but the guy told me they weren't meant to be left
indefinitely on the windshield. I asked how I, the consumer, was supposed
know this, since none of their materials/owners manual make any reference to
this "fact". If I could see through the phone line, I suspect he shrugged.
Anyway, they replaced it, so I didn't pursue it farther. We'll see what
happens this coming summer, though the new one seemed to be more pliable,
and holds its suction much longer (weeks vs. hours with the old one). They
may have had a bad batch of the suction cups.

The other issue I had, why did they make the glass mount such a lousy
design? As near as I can tell, you can't replace just the rubber suction
cup (easily anyway). You have to replace the entire mount.

John


Tom H.

2008-01-23, 10:33 pm

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<tnom@mucks.net> wrote in message
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>
> How about water.


After I sent my post, I realized that I should have mentioned water as
probably the first choice. Water is also least likely to cause harm. It
also has the advantage of being basically free.


Moondog@rcn.net

2008-01-23, 10:33 pm

Hi,

I bit the bullet and bought a ProClip for my car that attaches to the
center console. My less than a year old suction cut failed due to the
disk surfaet being no longer pliable and the spring had stretched. Now
I use the ProClip for standard use and use the replacement suction
cut and mount that Garmin sent to me for rental cars.



On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:22:40 -0500, Patrick <plmarkovic@comcast.net>
wrote:

>I use the suction-cup mount with the dash-mount disk that came with my
>StreetPilot c340. Every so often, the suction-cup and GPS fall off when
>the mount dries and looses the suction. What could I put on the
>suction-cup to prevent the unit from falling off and not adversely
>affect the rubber cup? I would think that a silicone based material
>would harden the rubber, but what about a vegetable or petroleum based
>oil? Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.

Moondog@rcn.net

2008-01-23, 10:33 pm

Boy do I spell bad when my wife is trying to get me to hurry up!

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:01:54 GMT, Moondog@rcn.net wrote:
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>Hi,
>
>I bit the bullet and bought a ProClip for my car that attaches to the
>center console. My less than a year old suction cut failed due to the
>disk surfaet being no longer pliable and the spring had stretched. Now
>I use the ProClip for standard use and use the replacement suction
>cut and mount that Garmin sent to me for rental cars.
>
>
>
>On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:22:40 -0500, Patrick <plmarkovic@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
zydecogary

2008-01-24, 7:33 am

Have you tried glycerine? You can pick it up at the
pharmacy counter at your local drug store. You only need a
couple of drops so you don't have to buy much. I've been
using it on suction cups for years.

Gary Hayman
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On Jan 23, 9:22=A0am, Patrick <plmarko...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I use the suction-cup mount with the =A0dash-mount disk that came with my
> StreetPilot c340. =A0Every so often, the suction-cup and GPS fall off when=


> the mount dries and looses the suction. =A0What could I put on the
> suction-cup to prevent the unit from falling off and not adversely
> affect the rubber cup? =A0I would think that a silicone based material
> would harden the rubber, but what about a vegetable or petroleum based
> oil? =A0Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.


Jack Erbes

2008-01-24, 10:33 am

Patrick wrote:
> I use the suction-cup mount with the dash-mount disk that came with my
> StreetPilot c340. Every so often, the suction-cup and GPS fall off when
> the mount dries and looses the suction. What could I put on the
> suction-cup to prevent the unit from falling off and not adversely
> affect the rubber cup? I would think that a silicone based material
> would harden the rubber, but what about a vegetable or petroleum based
> oil? Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.


Get some glycerin (unflavored and unscented if you can find it) and rub
that into the suction cup with your fingers. Then dry off the excess
with a cloth. It is a great help, especially as they get older.

Jack
samsung@nowhere,com

2008-01-24, 10:33 am

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:22:40 -0500, Patrick <plmarkovic@comcast.net>
wrote:

>I use the suction-cup mount with the dash-mount disk that came with my
>StreetPilot c340. Every so often, the suction-cup and GPS fall off when
>the mount dries and looses the suction. What could I put on the
>suction-cup to prevent the unit from falling off and not adversely
>affect the rubber cup? I would think that a silicone based material
>would harden the rubber, but what about a vegetable or petroleum based
>oil? Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.


try making sure the disc is spotlessly clean and both the rubber
suction cup & disc are bone dry

iI had the same problem with mine, until I did that .. holds firm
since
Peter

2008-01-24, 10:34 pm

On Jan 24, 8:18=A0am, samsung@nowhere,com wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:22:40 -0500, Patrick <plmarko...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
[color=darkred]
n[color=darkred]
>
> try making sure the disc is spotlessly clean and both the rubber
> suction cup & disc are bone dry
>
> iI had the same problem with mine, until I did that .. holds firm
> since


Use a bean bag mount and then you will not have this problem.
road apple

2008-01-24, 10:34 pm

In article
<52112698-7580-4b41-8b76- 99b33ce47fc2@v17g200
0hsa.googlegroups.com>,
Peter <pmhirsch@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 24, 8:18_am, samsung@nowhere,com wrote:
>
> Use a bean bag mount and then you will not have this problem.

I bought a bean bag but the suction cup let go after 1 day. I used
silicon grease and it stayed for more than 2 months
bobm3@worthless.info

2008-01-24, 10:34 pm

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:22:40 -0500, Patrick <plmarkovic@comcast.net>
wrote:

>I use the suction-cup mount with the dash-mount disk that came with my
>StreetPilot c340. Every so often, the suction-cup and GPS fall off when
>the mount dries and looses the suction. What could I put on the
>suction-cup to prevent the unit from falling off and not adversely
>affect the rubber cup? I would think that a silicone based material
>would harden the rubber, but what about a vegetable or petroleum based
>oil? Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.


I had the same problem with my two C340's and finally purchased the
garmin bean-bag type base and they've been great. Stays firmly on the
dash anywhere I put it and when I park I can simply pick it up and
place it on the floor. Each cost approx $25.

budman@frozenorth.ca

2008-01-24, 10:34 pm

>>[color=darkred]

I 'assumed' the windshield of my vehicle was flat in the area where I was
mounting my C330. It would stay there for 3 - 4 hours then fall off. I held a
6" straight-edged ruler edgewise to the glass and it was very obvious that there
were NO flat areas in the whole windshield. I then mounted the metal disc that
comes in the package to the bottom of the glass. The adhesive is terrific and
it makes contact enough to hold securely. I wet the cup when mounting it and it
stays for ever if I want it to.

Howard Lester

2008-01-25, 10:33 am

<bobm3@worthless.info> wrote

> I had the same problem with my two C340's and finally purchased the
> garmin bean-bag type base and they've been great. Stays firmly on the
> dash anywhere I put it and when I park I can simply pick it up and
> place it on the floor. Each cost approx $25.


Could you be specific as to just what you got for $25? I looked at websites
that have the Garmin beanbag for around $27, but they then say it requires
yet another thing to work with it. Garmin's site shows a complete beanbag
setup with the little stalk-and-ball sticking out of it (for Nuvi) for $40.
I'm pretty confused as to just what I need *in lieu of* mounting my Nuvi 350
to the windshield. That is, maybe the windshield mount/suction cup assembly
is what slides into the top of the bean bag. ??


road apple

2008-01-25, 12:34 pm

In article <fncsjq$821$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>, Howard Lester
<hlester@mmto.org> wrote:

> <bobm3@worthless.info> wrote
>
>
> Could you be specific as to just what you got for $25? I looked at websites
> that have the Garmin beanbag for around $27, but they then say it requires
> yet another thing to work with it. Garmin's site shows a complete beanbag
> setup with the little stalk-and-ball sticking out of it (for Nuvi) for $40.
> I'm pretty confused as to just what I need *in lieu of* mounting my Nuvi 350
> to the windshield. That is, maybe the windshield mount/suction cup assembly
> is what slides into the top of the bean bag. ??
>
> I got my bean bag here and it works great with my Nuvi650.

specials@heartlandam
erica.com
Howard Lester

2008-01-25, 3:33 pm

"road apple" wrote

> specials@heartlandam
erica.com


That's an e-mail address. Could you provide an exact web link to what you
bought? I did a search on "bean bag mount" under "auto &
hardware/navigation" and got an outdoor flood light.


Rob

2008-01-26, 4:33 am

In article <fndc31$pbs$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>,
"Howard Lester" <hlester@mmto.org> wrote:

> "road apple" wrote
>
>
> That's an e-mail address. Could you provide an exact web link to what you
> bought? I did a search on "bean bag mount" under "auto &
> hardware/navigation" and got an outdoor flood light.


Try deleting the "specials@" and put the rest of it in your Address Bar.
They're 30 bucks there.
Howard Lester

2008-01-26, 10:33 am


"Rob" wrote

>
> Try deleting the "specials@" and put the rest of it in your Address Bar.
> They're 30 bucks there.


I had done that already, doing a search on bean bags, Garmin....and couldn't
find anything. That's why I asked you if you would provide a direct link to
the item YOU bought.


Frank Tabor

2008-01-26, 10:33 am


On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 23:07:37 -0600, Rob <smith@aol.com> wrote:

>heartlandamerica.com

http://heartlandamerica.com/browse/...BFB19B8&DL=SES3
--
Frank Tabor
Howard Lester

2008-01-26, 12:33 pm

"Frank Tabor" wrote

> http://heartlandamerica.com/browse/...BFB19B8&DL=SES3


Thank you, Frank!


Joel

2008-01-26, 10:33 pm

"Howard Lester" <heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote:

> "Rob" wrote
>
>
> I had done that already, doing a search on bean bags, Garmin....and couldn't
> find anything. That's why I asked you if you would provide a direct link to
> the item YOU bought.


Very interesting as I have been seeing so many companies carry beanbag.
sucker cup, and just 1-2 weeks ago I saw a local Best Buy had both sucker
and bag in Sunday Newspaper ads. And tons of them on ebay etc..
Patrick

2008-01-27, 12:33 pm

When I had a GPS V, I used a bean bag mount. After a couple of years,
the bottom surface dried out and the whole unit kept sliding off the
dash. Finally had to use some velcro taped to both the dash and the
bean bag mount to keep it from falling off. Hope the new ones hold up
longer...

>
> I had the same problem with my two C340's and finally purchased the
> garmin bean-bag type base and they've been great. Stays firmly on the
> dash anywhere I put it and when I park I can simply pick it up and
> place it on the floor. Each cost approx $25.
>

bobm3@worthless.info

2008-01-27, 3:33 pm

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:01:56 -0700, "Howard Lester"
<heylester@dakotacom.net> wrote:
Sorry it took me so long to reply. I've been really, really busy
working.

This is the mount that I was referring to.

010-10613-00
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007LJHVK...20&linkCode=asn

I got mine at provantage.com for <$25 plus shipping.

Good luck,

Bob
Howard Lester

2008-01-27, 3:33 pm

<bobm3@worthless.info> wrote

> This is the mount that I was referring to.
>
> 010-10613-00
> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0007LJHVK...20&linkCode=asn


Thanks, Bob. I hope you're enjoying working. :-) I have a Nuvi, and the
page you sent was helpful pointing me directly to this, which is what will
work with a Nuvi:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rd_i=B0007LJHVK


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