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| emanon 2008-02-21, 10:33 pm |
| I recently noticed that my 60Csx does not have an option for Lithium
Batteries. I only show Alkaline and rechargeable. I don't have the unit in
front of me so I don;t have the numbers, but the last time I checked, last
week, I had the latest versions of everything.
Is it my imagination, or did the 60Csx have Li Batteries listed as a power
option? If they did, how can I get that choice back?
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| Bert Hyman 2008-02-21, 10:33 pm |
| In news:7fGdnb_5J9IbjCP
anZ2dnUVZ_rCtnZ2d@co
mcast.com "emanon"
<emanon@erehwon.com> wrote:
> Is it my imagination, or did the 60Csx have Li Batteries listed as a
> power option? If they did, how can I get that choice back?
If you look at the update history for the "unit software", you'll find
that in "Changes made from version 3.30 to 3.50" is "Remove lithium ion
as a battery choice."
http://www8.garmin.com/support/down...ils.jsp?id=1245
But, if you look at the save revision for the 76CSx, supposedly the
twin brother of the 60CSx, you'll find "Remove lithium ion as a battery
choice. For 76x add lithium battery choice."
http://www8.garmin.com/support/down...ils.jsp?id=1249
I have no idea why they did that.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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| emanon 2008-02-21, 10:33 pm |
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"Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message
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> In news:7fGdnb_5J9IbjCP
anZ2dnUVZ_rCtnZ2d@co
mcast.com "emanon"
> <emanon@erehwon.com> wrote:
>
>
> If you look at the update history for the "unit software", you'll find
> that in "Changes made from version 3.30 to 3.50" is "Remove lithium ion
> as a battery choice."
>
> http://www8.garmin.com/support/down...ils.jsp?id=1245
>
> But, if you look at the save revision for the 76CSx, supposedly the
> twin brother of the 60CSx, you'll find "Remove lithium ion as a battery
> choice. For 76x add lithium battery choice."
>
> http://www8.garmin.com/support/down...ils.jsp?id=1249
>
> I have no idea why they did that.
>
> --
> Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
Thanks, Bert! You've set my mind at ease that I am not totally imagining I
used to be able to select Li Batteries. Yep, strange indeed and the update
would account for the loss of the choice as I am on, I think, V 3.60
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| emanon 2008-02-21, 10:33 pm |
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> "Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks, Bert! You've set my mind at ease that I am not totally imagining I
> used to be able to select Li Batteries. Yep, strange indeed and the update
> would account for the loss of the choice as I am on, I think, V 3.60
I sit corrected. My software version is 3.50. Just checked.
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| Frank Bogert 2008-02-21, 10:33 pm |
| Bert Hyman schrieb:
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> I have no idea why they did that.
Look in the readme.txt file which is delivered in the GPSMAP60CSx_350.exe:
21. Remove lithium ion as a battery choice. For 76x add lithium battery
choice. *Lithium ion batteries have a voltage that is too high and might
damage the unit.*
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| mike vore 2008-02-22, 7:33 am |
| emanon wrote:
> I recently noticed that my 60Csx does not have an option for Lithium
> Batteries. I only show Alkaline and rechargeable. I don't have the unit
> in front of me so I don;t have the numbers, but the last time I checked,
> last week, I had the latest versions of everything.
>
> Is it my imagination, or did the 60Csx have Li Batteries listed as a
> power option? If they did, how can I get that choice back?
On Page 2 of my GPSMAP C60CSx the following appears:
! Note: Lithium Batteries are not recommended because
the initial voltage of new batteries may exceed 1.5 volts
each, which may cause the GPSMAP C60CSx to turn off .
--
Mike Vore
http://www.OhMyWoodness.com
http://www.OhMyWoodness.com/photos
http://www.OhMyWoodness.com/thewoodenradio
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| Bert Hyman 2008-02-22, 10:33 am |
| usenet@twinmail.de (Frank Bogert) wrote in
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> Bert Hyman schrieb:
>
> Look in the readme.txt file which is delivered in the
> GPSMAP60CSx_350.exe:
>
> 21. Remove lithium ion as a battery choice. For 76x add lithium
> battery choice. *Lithium ion batteries have a voltage that is too
> high and might damage the unit.*
You missed my point.
Why did they add "lithium" batteries back as a choice for the 76x, but
not to the 60x?
Up 'til I saw that, I assumed that the two were only different in
external control layout.
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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com
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| Roarmeister 2008-02-23, 10:33 am |
| On 22 Feb 2008 15:06:20 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>usenet@twinmail.de (Frank Bogert) wrote in
> news:fpl707$v8p$02$1
@news.t-online.com:
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>You missed my point.
>
>Why did they add "lithium" batteries back as a choice for the 76x, but
>not to the 60x?
>
>Up 'til I saw that, I assumed that the two were only different in
>external control layout.
That's the $64,000 question isn't it?
*** BTW, Lithium and lithium ion are NOT THE SAME. ***
Lithium ion is the kind of battery you would find in a cell phone,
usually a flat pack. Lithium AA batteries are NOT LITHIUM ION.
When they removed Lithium Ion from the 60/76 is was removing an option
that the units could NEVER use and the option should never have been
available (programmers mistake). I don't know why the Lithium AA is
an option for the 76 series if the two GPSr are basically the same
except for the different form factors.
Some people have found a work-a-round which I think is a useless
kludge in the first place. They use the batteries in another
appliance like a radio or flashlight and then when the voltage has
dropped to the same as a fresh alkaline they switch it over to the
GPS. Unless you can get 4-5x the life out of a Lithium AA over an
alkaline then all you are doing is pissing your money away for nothing
because of the cost difference. Alkaline = 18 hrs: Lithium = 72 hrs =
NOT!
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| Phil Wheeler 2008-02-23, 12:33 pm |
| Roarmeister wrote:
> Unless you can get 4-5x the life out of a Lithium AA over an
> alkaline then all you are doing is pissing your money away for nothing
> because of the cost difference.
Actually I do get that sort of difference ..
intermittent use, often in cold weather (snow).
My Legend HCx works fine on Li AAs. 60Cx does
not, so I use Eneloops in it and just recharge
them. Use only alkaline as backups.
Phil
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| Bert Hyman 2008-02-23, 3:33 pm |
| In news:uce0s31rv628c8c
73dpokh0268815c08ea@
4ax.com Roarmeister
< Ebnezrvfgre2@argfpnc
r.arg> wrote:
> Unless you can get 4-5x the life out of a Lithium AA over an
> alkaline then all you are doing is pissing your money away for nothing
> because of the cost difference. Alkaline = 18 hrs: Lithium = 72 hrs =
> NOT!
>
I dropped a pair of lithium batteries in my 76CSx for a 2-week trip to
Norway last spring. I figured they might behave better in the cold.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
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| Simon Slavin 2008-02-24, 10:33 pm |
| On 22/02/2008, Bert Hyman wrote in message
< Xns9A4BB9C842DBVeebl
eFetzer@216.250.184.7>:
> But, if you look at the save revision for the 76CSx, supposedly the
> twin brother of the 60CSx, you'll find "Remove lithium ion as a battery
> choice. For 76x add lithium battery choice."
>
> http://www8.garmin.com/support/down...ils.jsp?id=1249
>
> I have no idea why they did that.
It's plausible that the power-management circuitry in one model can handle
it, and in the other model can't. The two different models are quite
different inside.
Simon.
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http://www.hearsay.demon.co.uk
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| Bert Hyman 2008-02-25, 12:33 pm |
| slavins.delete.these.four.words@hearsay.demon.co.uk (Simon Slavin)
wrote in news:fpstjk$900$2$83
00dec7@news.demon.co.uk:
> On 22/02/2008, Bert Hyman wrote in message
>< Xns9A4BB9C842DBVeebl
eFetzer@216.250.184.7>:
>
>
> It's plausible that the power-management circuitry in one model can
> handle it, and in the other model can't. The two different models
> are quite different inside.
Many, including me, had been simply assumed that the two were
electrically identical and had made decisions about buying them based
entirely on ergonomics.
Are the differences described anywhere that ordinary folks cat get at
them?
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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com
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