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Author Using +44 on mobile numbers in the UK
Des

2005-07-28, 5:48 pm

I was intending to add the '+44'' prefix to all of my stored numbers
on my phone, so that they would work easily when I went abroad
(France). However, the T-Mobile customer service bod told me not to,
although no explanation why was forthcoming.

Clearly +44 is needed to get back to the UK. But does it have any
consequnce when used in the UK? I assumed the normal routing would
ignore it?


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Dave Gill

2005-07-28, 5:49 pm

Des <des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk> wrote:

> I was intending to add the '+44'' prefix to all of my stored numbers
> on my phone, so that they would work easily when I went abroad
> (France). However, the T-Mobile customer service bod told me not to,
> although no explanation why was forthcoming.


The T-Mobile bod was being as arse.

> Clearly +44 is needed to get back to the UK. But does it have any
> consequnce when used in the UK? I assumed the normal routing would
> ignore it?


You assumed correctly.

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Dave Gill

2005-07-28, 5:49 pm

Des <des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk> wrote:

> I was intending to add the '+44'' prefix to all of my stored numbers
> on my phone, so that they would work easily when I went abroad
> (France). However, the T-Mobile customer service bod told me not to,
> although no explanation why was forthcoming.


The T-Mobile bod was being an arse.

> Clearly +44 is needed to get back to the UK. But does it have any
> consequnce when used in the UK? I assumed the normal routing would
> ignore it?


You assumed correctly.

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Alex

2005-07-28, 5:49 pm


"Des" <des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk> wrote in message
news:9i1ie152rg960n1
pdib6baaliovahhfeif@
4ax.com...
> I was intending to add the '+44'' prefix to all of my stored numbers
> on my phone, so that they would work easily when I went abroad
> (France). However, the T-Mobile customer service bod told me not to,
> although no explanation why was forthcoming.
>
> Clearly +44 is needed to get back to the UK. But does it have any
> consequnce when used in the UK? I assumed the normal routing would
> ignore it?
>


I'll refrain from saying 'what a plonker' and wondering why on earth he had
a job in mobile phones if he said not to, as I've not got a Tmobile phone to
test it out on, but on the networks I've used (o2, orange, voda 3) using +44
is fine (all my numbers are stored that way, mobiles +447.. and landlines
+441.. or +442..). Plus the fact that when you get a text message the
senders number is in the format +447... so thats the standard format in
which your phone will be replying to text messages to.
Sounds like a load of jibberish.

Alex


Des

2005-07-28, 5:49 pm

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:37:20 +0100,
spam-egg-chips-n-spam@spamsoff.co.uk (Dave Gill) wrote:

>Des <des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
>The T-Mobile bod was being an arse.
>
>
>You assumed correctly.



Thank you, never trust a 'bod' :-)


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Dave White

2005-07-28, 5:49 pm


"Des" <des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk> wrote in message
news:9i1ie152rg960n1
pdib6baaliovahhfeif@
4ax.com...
>I was intending to add the '+44'' prefix to all of my stored numbers
> on my phone, so that they would work easily when I went abroad
> (France). However, the T-Mobile customer service bod told me not to,
> although no explanation why was forthcoming.
>


Two words spring to mind - 'Plank' and 'Muppet'.


purple pete

2005-07-28, 5:49 pm

Just to add that I had a Nokia that would not recognise text messages from
people in my address book UNLESS I added the +44 to their number.


Jon

2005-07-28, 5:49 pm

des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk declared for all the world to hear...
> I was intending to add the '+44'' prefix to all of my stored numbers
> on my phone, so that they would work easily when I went abroad
> (France). However, the T-Mobile customer service bod told me not to,
> although no explanation why was forthcoming.
>
> Clearly +44 is needed to get back to the UK. But does it have any
> consequnce when used in the UK? I assumed the normal routing would
> ignore it?


You assume correctly. Your plan is sound, which is more than can be said
for T-Mobile's advice in this case.
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2005-07-28, 5:49 pm


"purple pete" <dmrt46NOSPAM@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Just to add that I had a Nokia that would not recognise text

messages from
> people in my address book UNLESS I added the +44 to their number.
>
>


Then you have a problem. Nokia's - unless they have changed recently -
only do a comparison check on the last six digits of the incoming
number.

However if you have the same number on SIM and in phone memory, even
with the same name, it will fail the comparison and show the incoming
number instead.


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www.simcard.me.uk

2005-07-28, 5:49 pm

"Des" <des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk> wrote in message
news:9i1ie152rg960n1
pdib6baaliovahhfeif@
4ax.com...
>I was intending to add the '+44'' prefix to all of my stored numbers
> on my phone, so that they would work easily when I went abroad
> (France). However, the T-Mobile customer service bod told me not to,
> although no explanation why was forthcoming.
>
> Clearly +44 is needed to get back to the UK. But does it have any
> consequnce when used in the UK? I assumed the normal routing would
> ignore it?
>
>
> --
> Cheers, Des





You can use +44 when in the UK no worries i always have done. You dont get
charged extra or any thing.


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Gavin

2005-07-28, 5:49 pm

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:36:50 GMT, "Alex" <spamtrap@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>"Des" <des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:9i1ie152rg960n1
pdib6baaliovahhfeif@
4ax.com...
>
>I'll refrain from saying 'what a plonker' and wondering why on earth he had
>a job in mobile phones if he said not to, as I've not got a Tmobile phone to
>test it out on, but on the networks I've used (o2, orange, voda 3) using +44
>is fine (all my numbers are stored that way, mobiles +447.. and landlines
>+441.. or +442..). Plus the fact that when you get a text message the
>senders number is in the format +447... so thats the standard format in
>which your phone will be replying to text messages to.
>Sounds like a load of jibberish.


It is all my no's are +44.... in my Tmobile sim and they work fine.


Chris P Bacon

2005-07-28, 5:49 pm

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you dont need to dial +44 from some countries ie France to get back to
the UK using O2. you will get a message telling you when your phone
logs onto a foreign network


Chris P Bacon
Alex

2005-07-28, 11:48 pm


"Chris P Bacon" <andy.haigh@XbreatheX.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> you dont need to dial +44 from some countries ie France to get back to
> the UK using O2. you will get a message telling you when your phone
> logs onto a foreign network
>


I have just got back from a holiday to a greek island and spain, I always
had to use +44 except on one network in spain where I got a text saying "O2
welcomes you to our starmap partner, amena. You do not need to prefix calls
with +44 to call home, but need to prefix with +34 to call within spain. For
voicemail call 901". Also as a side note 1471 worked (although chargable).

Alex


mobileshoporg@despammed.com

2005-07-28, 11:48 pm

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:27:33 +0100, Des <des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk>
wrote:

>However, the T-Mobile customer service bod told me not to,
>although no explanation why was forthcoming.


Ignore him. It's fine.

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mobileshoporg@despammed.com

2005-07-28, 11:48 pm

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:17:40 +0100, "purple pete"
<dmrt46NOSPAM@clara.co.uk> wrote:

>Just to add that I had a Nokia that would not recognise text messages from
>people in my address book UNLESS I added the +44 to their number.


I very much doubt it.

Nokias only match the last 6 numbers on lookups.

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Kevin I Chapple

2005-07-28, 11:48 pm

I, like many others, have ALWAYS set numbers in the phone book with +44 cccc
nnnnnn (c=code, n=number).

Works fine wherever you are on the planet so with the spontaneous trip to
Mongolia, you can just call your friends in the UK (to gloat) without having
to change any of the numbers.

Also works on The Isle of Wight!!! (only joking. NOTHING works on The Isle
Of Wight!! :-)) )


< mobileshoporg@despam
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> On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:27:33 +0100, Des <des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> Ignore him. It's fine.
>
> --
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> http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html - maintainers of
> http://www.mobileshop.org - the on-line mobile phone guide
> sponsored by http://www.mobileshop.com - the online store



Mehdi

2005-07-28, 11:48 pm

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:12:59 +0100, Chris P Bacon wrote:

>
>
> you dont need to dial +44 from some countries ie France to get back to
> the UK using O2. you will get a message telling you when your phone
> logs onto a foreign network


Yes but if you store your numbers on your phone and then use a local SIM
card, you'll need to have all your UK numbers stored in the international
format for them to work, won't you?
Joseph

2005-07-29, 2:48 am

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:27:33 +0100, Des <des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk>
wrote:

>I was intending to add the '+44'' prefix to all of my stored numbers
>on my phone, so that they would work easily when I went abroad
>(France). However, the T-Mobile customer service bod told me not to,
>although no explanation why was forthcoming.
>
>Clearly +44 is needed to get back to the UK. But does it have any
>consequnce when used in the UK? I assumed the normal routing would
>ignore it?


If GSM specs are met international formatting should work on all
numbers so that to dial a London number 020-7654 3210 should work and
also +44 20 7654 3210 should work as well and should also bill the
same i.e. you should be billed for a regular call and not be billed as
an international tarriffed call. The same way as in the US to call
311-555-2368 can be also dialed as +1 311 555 2368 and will go through
just fine and be billed the correct way as well.

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Mark Carver

2005-07-29, 5:48 pm

Chris P Bacon wrote:
>
> you dont need to dial +44 from some countries ie France to get back to
> the UK using O2. you will get a message telling you when your phone
> logs onto a foreign network


I'm not sure I understand that. What if a 'local' number is the same as a UK
number ? 01xxx xxxxxx how would the network know whether you wanted an
internal or international number ?

In my experience roaming with my Vodafone phone, I can dial 121 and access
voice mail if logged onto to a Voda-owned network, but all calls back to UK
landlines or mobiles must have +44 prefix. Conversely local calls in a
foreign country simply require the area code and number.


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Jon Pitts

2005-07-31, 5:49 pm


"Des" <des@oregon.nOSPamPlz.org.uk> wrote in message
news:9i1ie152rg960n1
pdib6baaliovahhfeif@
4ax.com...
> I was intending to add the '+44'' prefix to all of my stored numbers
> on my phone, so that they would work easily when I went abroad
> (France). However, the T-Mobile customer service bod told me not to,
> although no explanation why was forthcoming.
>
> Clearly +44 is needed to get back to the UK. But does it have any
> consequnce when used in the UK? I assumed the normal routing would
> ignore it?
>


Calls will still route perfectly - in my experience of Orange billing, the
"place called" column on the itemised bill used to be more detailed if you
dialled 01xx/02x as opposed to +441xxx or whatever.

When I discovered this "quirk" I de-44'd all my phonebook, and haven't been
inclined to put them back without needing to, so it could well have been
fixed without my noticing...

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