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| Is anyone using Blackberry?
Where are the best tarrifs for it and what problems are there with it - if
any?
Cheers
Rio
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| Just cancelled mine this week, I have been using it for a couple of years.
Had a few minor problems that required a "soft reset" but all in all it was
fine.
At the time of buying it I was out of the office all the time and it was
great to have my emails available, but I am now more office based and a find
my Sony Ericsson K750i perfectly good enough on the odd occasion that I need
to check emails.
Orange do a 4Mb GPRS bundle for £4 per month which will be enough for me.
When using the Blackberry my tariff was £13.50 per month (On T-Mobile), but
I think it's more expensive than that now.
Didn't use it as a phone though as I had a separate handset for making
calls.
Hope this helps,
Al
"Rio" <riodnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Is anyone using Blackberry?
>
> Where are the best tarrifs for it and what problems are there with it - if
> any?
>
> Cheers
>
> Rio
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| I've always wondered - what makes a Blackberry so special? I mean what does
it do that a decent phone with email client doesnt?
Shak
"AP" <al. powis@nospamntlworld
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> Just cancelled mine this week, I have been using it for a couple of years.
>
> Had a few minor problems that required a "soft reset" but all in all it
was
> fine.
>
> At the time of buying it I was out of the office all the time and it was
> great to have my emails available, but I am now more office based and a
find
> my Sony Ericsson K750i perfectly good enough on the odd occasion that I
need
> to check emails.
>
> Orange do a 4Mb GPRS bundle for £4 per month which will be enough for me.
>
> When using the Blackberry my tariff was £13.50 per month (On T-Mobile),
but
> I think it's more expensive than that now.
> Didn't use it as a phone though as I had a separate handset for making
> calls.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Al
>
> "Rio" <riodnospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Fred Smith 2005-08-26, 5:49 pm |
| Shak wrote:
> I've always wondered - what makes a Blackberry so special? I mean what does
> it do that a decent phone with email client doesnt?
If using it with the Enterprise Server your contacts, calendar, tasks
and email are synchronised with your desktop system (Exchange/Notes) in
real-time.
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| Mark Turner 2005-08-26, 5:49 pm |
| Shak <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>I've always wondered - what makes a Blackberry so special? I mean what does
>it do that a decent phone with email client doesnt?
Almost instant email delivery rather than the next time your phone
polls. Plus, on most (all?) UK Blackberry contracts you're charged
a flat monthly fee rather than per byte / email.
Cheers,
Mark.
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| Brian A 2005-08-26, 11:48 pm |
| On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:45:11 +0100, "Shak" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>I've always wondered - what makes a Blackberry so special? I mean what does
>it do that a decent phone with email client doesnt?
>
>Shak
It does 'push' email. In other words when email becomes avaialble it
is sent out to the phone without you, or the client, having to take
any prior action.
With a standard email client you would have to poll the server
manually or automatically.
Doing that creates unecessary GPRS costs when email is not there to
collect.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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| Martin Underwood 2005-08-26, 11:48 pm |
| "Brian A" < no_spam_bca1000@hotm
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> On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:45:11 +0100, "Shak" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> It does 'push' email. In other words when email becomes avaialble it
> is sent out to the phone without you, or the client, having to take
> any prior action.
> With a standard email client you would have to poll the server
> manually or automatically.
> Doing that creates unecessary GPRS costs when email is not there to
> collect.
Can a Blackberry be configured to monitor any POP mailbox (even if it's only
with pull technology) or is it restricted to receiving email sent to a
special mailbox associated with the SIM network provider (eg T-Mobile). A
customer of mine bought a Blackberry thinking that it would allow him to
read his email sent to his POP server (I think with Freedom2Surf) in the
same way that an email client such as Outlook on a PC can be configured to
do, but from reading the unbelievably sparse printed user manual and the
on-screen help for the Email Configuration menu on the Blackberry, I suspect
it is restricted to reading email sent to (in his case) a special T-Mobile
email address.
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| Martin Underwood 2005-08-26, 11:48 pm |
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> "Brian A" < no_spam_bca1000@hotm
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> Can a Blackberry be configured to monitor any POP mailbox (even if it's
> only with pull technology) or is it restricted to receiving email sent to
> a special mailbox associated with the SIM network provider (eg T-Mobile).
> A customer of mine bought a Blackberry thinking that it would allow him to
> read his email sent to his POP server (I think with Freedom2Surf) in the
> same way that an email client such as Outlook on a PC can be configured to
> do, but from reading the unbelievably sparse printed user manual and the
> on-screen help for the Email Configuration menu on the Blackberry, I
> suspect it is restricted to reading email sent to (in his case) a special
> T-Mobile email address.
Forgot to say: the customer's Blackberry is a 7100t, if that affects the
answer to my question above.
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| Martin Underwood has written
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Quote from T-Mobile website:
"The T-Mobile Instant Email service is designed to work with any Internet
email account that supports the POP3 protocol.
T-Mobile is currently in discussion with all major email providers to gain
their official certification around the use of Instant Email. If customers
are in any doubt, T-Mobile recommends that they consult with their email
provider."
Here's the link for their website
[url]http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher? menuid=phones_es_ie[
/url]
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| Dave Higton 2005-08-27, 5:49 pm |
| In message <MPG. 1d7a488c96bf8b2a9897
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E <noname@spam.com> wrote:
> Martin Underwood has written
> Quote from T-Mobile website:
>
> "The T-Mobile Instant Email service is designed to work with any Internet
> email account that supports the POP3 protocol.
Curious, because POP3 is incapable of pushing.
Dave
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| "Dave Higton" <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> In message <MPG. 1d7a488c96bf8b2a9897
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> E <noname@spam.com> wrote:
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> Curious, because POP3 is incapable of pushing.
>
> Dave
But T-Mobile can poll your POP3 regularly, then contact your Blackberry
handheld via GPRS when it notices there is a new mail. That's better than
your handheld device having to actively make connection to POP3 every now
and then.
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Andy
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| Martin Underwood 2005-08-27, 5:49 pm |
| "Andy" < replyheretofindout@h
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> "Dave Higton" <davehigton@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> But T-Mobile can poll your POP3 regularly, then contact your Blackberry
> handheld via GPRS when it notices there is a new mail. That's better than
> your handheld device having to actively make connection to POP3 every now
> and then.
Ah, so you configure the POP/SMTP servers and the POP (and maybe SMTP)
username/password with the network provider (eg T-Mobile) rather than
configuring them at the Blackberry? That explains why I couldn't find a menu
for this on the Blackberry.
How are the email parameters defined? Do you contact the network provider
(eg by web site) and quote the mail servers and logon details, together with
some thing (EMEI?) that identifies the phone (or rather the SIM) so the
network knows where to send the mail?
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| Tim S Kemp 2005-08-28, 5:48 am |
| Dave Higton wrote:
> Curious, because POP3 is incapable of pushing.
POP3 and other accounts are polled by the server side software (either by
your provider or by enterprise connect) and therefore are not instan
delivery.
Blackberrys are great for a few reasons - one is the foolproof nature of
operation - once set up they work worldwide without having to alter any
settings for mail retrieval, pickup or gprs connections,
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| "Martin Underwood" <news@isp.net> wrote in message
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> "Andy" < replyheretofindout@h
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> Ah, so you configure the POP/SMTP servers and the POP (and maybe SMTP)
> username/password with the network provider (eg T-Mobile) rather than
> configuring them at the Blackberry? That explains why I couldn't find a
> menu for this on the Blackberry.
>
> How are the email parameters defined? Do you contact the network provider
> (eg by web site) and quote the mail servers and logon details, together
> with some thing (EMEI?) that identifies the phone (or rather the SIM) so
> the network knows where to send the mail?
They know which PIN (Blackberry serial number) and EMEI they supplied you.
They probably glue those together with a webmail account logon, and when
you're logged on the their internet site, you should have an opportunity to
fill in a list of POP3 server names, usernames and passwords.
What I can't guess, is how often T-Mobile will poll your POP3 accounts. They
will likely give you your own primary webmail account like
yourname@t-mobile.net and I would think to use this account would see
instant emails, and to use other polled pop3 accounts would see delays of up
to a few minutes per email.
Another alternative may be available to you. If any of your pop3 accounts
support email forwarding, you can set these to forward to your (supposed)
t-mobile address, and you will get these almost instantly -- no latency
introduced due to the arbitrary poll interval. Check to see if you can setup
a forward from your existing accounts. Some do, some don't.
I don't know all of the above this for a fact, but I'm bringing together
what I know from the Blackberry Enterprise Server, the Blackberry GPRS
infrastructure, and how my Spamcop webmail account all work. I'm confident
that I'm not too far adrift.
--
Andy.
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| vish.gulati@gmail.com 2005-08-28, 5:48 pm |
| POP on Blackberry (T-Mobile) is polled every 15 minutes.
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| <vish.gulati@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> POP on Blackberry (T-Mobile) is polled every 15 minutes.
and if they see that you have email, they poll it every 3 minutes for a
while.
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Andy.
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