Cell Phones in Great Britain - Stolen Three Phone Question

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Stolen Three Phone Question

ioan davies

2006-12-22, 3:33 pm

Hello All
A friend of mine has just had his phone stolen.He has reported it to
three and they have disabled the sim.What he wants to know is,would the
phone still work if someone put a new three sim card in it,as all three
said they had done was disabled the sim card as it was on a contract.

Hope this is understandable,as this is all the information I have at
this moment from my friend.

Thanks A Lot

Trains to brazil

2006-12-22, 10:33 pm

ioan davies wrote:
<snip>
Stolen mobiles are blocked using their imei number, they should not even
work in other countries that are members of the database of blacklisted
phones.

pete

2006-12-22, 10:33 pm

"ioan davies" <ioan_davies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello All
> A friend of mine has just had his phone stolen.He has reported it to
> three and they have disabled the sim.What he wants to know is,would the
> phone still work if someone put a new three sim card in it,as all three
> said they had done was disabled the sim card as it was on a contract.
>
> Hope this is understandable,as this is all the information I have at
> this moment from my friend.
>
> Thanks A Lot
Yes it will still work, so tell him not to go selling it on ebay! Phone
companies often allow phones to be used, it's a loss of revenue if they
don't. There is nothing to stop your friend taking it to a shop and having
the IMEI changed for a tenner first.
People often think of phone insurance as a cheap way to upgrade.
Unless you're extremely careless you shouldn't need it.

Steve Terry

2006-12-22, 10:33 pm

"pete" <pete@cat5org.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "ioan davies" <ioan_davies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yes it will still work, so tell him not to go selling it on ebay! Phone
> companies often allow phones to be used, it's a loss of revenue if they
> don't. There is nothing to stop your friend taking it to a shop and
> having the IMEI changed for a tenner first.
> People often think of phone insurance as a cheap way to upgrade.
> Unless you're extremely careless you shouldn't need it.
>
>
Rubbish, the phones IMEI will be added to the CEIR Blacklist
database in Dublin, which is used now by all European networks.

The problem is it could still be used in countries outside that,
like Africa, Asia, etc. which don't use it

Assuming that the phone has been Network unlocked first,
many can be with software and unlocking equipment.

Steve Terry

Richard Colton

2006-12-22, 10:33 pm

"pete" <pete@cat5org.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "ioan davies" <ioan_davies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yes it will still work,

No it won't.

>so tell him not to go selling it on ebay!

Eh? Not everyone is as bent as you are.

> Phone companies often allow phones to be used, it's a loss of revenue if
> they don't.

That used to be true in the case of Vodafone, but it was many years ago.

> There is nothing to stop your friend taking it to a shop and having the
> IMEI changed for a tenner first.

Yeah right. And what shop is going to risk a five year stretch in prison
and a potentially unlimted fine to change the IMEI on a handset of some
unknown twonk that walks in off the street? Even if they were daft enough
to tamper qwith IMEIs, they wouldn't be stupid enough to do it for anyone
they didn't know.

> People often think of phone insurance as a cheap way to upgrade.
> Unless you're extremely careless you shouldn't need it.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment, accidents do happen, and you are still
clueless.

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History

2006-12-22, 10:33 pm

> Hello All
> A friend of mine has just had his phone stolen.He has reported it to
> three and they have disabled the sim.What he wants to know is,would the
> phone still work if someone put a new three sim card in it,as all three
> said they had done was disabled the sim card as it was on a contract.
>
> Hope this is understandable,as this is all the information I have at
> this moment from my friend.
>
> Thanks A Lot

He should have reported it stolen to the police, then phoned the network to
get the phone as well as his sim card barred.

Jon

2006-12-23, 7:33 am

pete@cat5org.co.uk declared for all the world to hear...
> Yes it will still work

No it won't, it will have been automatically blacklisted.

> There is nothing to stop your friend taking it to a shop and having
> the IMEI changed for a tenner first.

Thats a very broad statement. Firstly, on some phones it's actually
impossible to change it, and secondly to find a shop that would do it
and openly advertise the fact would also be impossible as IMEI changing
carries a maximum jail sentence of 5 years.
--
Regards
Jon

ioan davies

2006-12-23, 10:33 am

In article <t31jh.17343$Qa6.3767@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>, History
< yesindeedtomeplease@
ohyes.com> wrote:

>
> He should have reported it stolen to the police, then phoned the network to
> get the phone as well as his sim card barred.
>
>
Hello Again
Thanks for all the replies but what is the end conclusion,will the
phone work with a new sim card put in or not,based on the fact that
three only disabled the sim card in the phone and didn't mention
anything about the imei number.

Thanks a lot again for any and all information.

Steve Terry

2006-12-23, 10:33 am

"ioan davies" <ioan_davies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <t31jh.17343$Qa6.3767@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>, History
> < yesindeedtomeplease@
ohyes.com> wrote:
> Hello Again
> Thanks for all the replies but what is the end conclusion,will the
> phone work with a new sim card put in or not,based on the fact that
> three only disabled the sim card in the phone and didn't mention
> anything about the imei number.
>
> Thanks a lot again for any and all information.
>
Tell him to ask 3 to "blacklist" the phone.

Then without highly illegal IMEI changing by very difficult suface mount
chip replacement and reprogramming, it can't be used in Europe.

Steve Terry

ioan davies

2006-12-23, 3:33 pm

In article <bvcjh.17557$Qa6.4271@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>, Steve Terry
<g4wwk@tesco.net> wrote:

> "ioan davies" <ioan_davies@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:231220061559244
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ail.com...
> Tell him to ask 3 to "blacklist" the phone.
>
> Then without highly illegal IMEI changing by very difficult suface mount
> chip replacement and reprogramming, it can't be used in Europe.
>
> Steve Terry
>
>
OK,thanks a lot,I'll pass it on to my friend,it's then in his hands.

Thanks a lot for the help,very much appreciated.

purple pete

2006-12-24, 3:33 pm

I'll pass it on to my friend
<snipped>

LOL ;)

Gizmo.

2006-12-28, 10:33 am

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