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Orange Vs O2 coverage?
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| Turbohat 2006-02-19, 5:48 pm |
| Generally and very approximately, which comes off best for coverage?
Ta
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| Matt Wheeler 2006-02-19, 5:49 pm |
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"Turbohat" <xyz@xyz.com> wrote in message
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> Generally and very approximately, which comes off best for coverage?
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Thats a very subjective question....
in my local area (around Aylesbury), i find Orange coverage better,
especially 3G where O2 seems non-existant (although they do have a GSM
signal).
Be warned, there will be one person come along saying that Orange are
inferior because they use 1800MHz instead of 900MHz.... don't believe
him.
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| Neil - Usenet 2006-02-19, 5:49 pm |
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"Turbohat" <xyz@xyz.com> wrote in message
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> Generally and very approximately, which comes off best for coverage?
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> Ta
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orange of course.
02 are crap,
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| Jonathan 2006-02-19, 5:49 pm |
| Turbohat wrote:
> Generally and very approximately, which comes off best for coverage?
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> Ta
Orange: More nodes, more coverage, mode connectivity internationally. Good
peering arrangements with other networks' 3G traffic now, I hear. And they
recruit much more beautiful women.
O2: Shit. Run by vampires.
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| Ian Stirling 2006-02-19, 5:49 pm |
| Turbohat <xyz@xyz.com> wrote:
> Generally and very approximately, which comes off best for coverage?
And to add to the other comments - O2, orange barely gets a signal
anywhere in the house.
O2 I've found only 3 6" patches anywhere in the house that it does not
work.
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| Ivor Jones 2006-02-19, 5:49 pm |
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> Turbohat <xyz@xyz.com> wrote:
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> And to add to the other comments - O2, orange barely gets
> a signal anywhere in the house.
> O2 I've found only 3 6" patches anywhere in the house
> that it does not work.
Surely this is entirely dependent on where you are at the time..?! Here in
my house I get an endstop signal from all networks except T-Mobile, but
that doesn't mean that someone else won't get a good signal from them.
Ivor
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| Rufus Stone 2006-02-19, 5:49 pm |
| On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:57:30 -0000, "Matt Wheeler"
<spam@007jbond.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Be warned, there will be one person come along saying that Orange are
>inferior because they use 1800MHz instead of 900MHz.... don't believe
>him.
Cue Jim .................
R.
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| Colin 2006-02-19, 11:48 pm |
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"Turbohat" <xyz@xyz.com> wrote in message
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> Generally and very approximately, which comes off best for coverage?
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> Ta
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It depends where you are, where the nearest base is, the frequency, type of
phone, where the phone is located, local terrain etc.
If you can tell us all that we can have a guess.
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| Jonathan Morris 2006-02-19, 11:48 pm |
| Colin wrote:
> If you can tell us all that we can have a guess.
And that's all it will be - a guess!
For me, Orange is bad at home where I spend a lot of time and on the
train to Kings Cross for work. So, on that basis, you could say it's
not the best. However, that's two relatively isolated locations and
Orange is great everywhere else I go.
Whatever happened to Orange promising blanket coverage of the national
railway network (ISTR late 2003), though??
By now, they should have increased their network to specifically cover
train lines and tunnels (albeit by pointing in tunnels, not leaky
feeders). Did this plan disappear when FT took over?
Jonathan
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"Turbohat" <xyz@xyz.com> wrote in message
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> Generally and very approximately, which comes off best for coverage?
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> Ta
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Such a subjective question.
I've recently switched to O2 because Orange simply couldn't offer:
a) the handset I wanted (unless you are a customer in the Netherlands). I've
got an XDA Mini S now.
Incidentally, I notice that Orange shops (the retail stores, and yes I
realise that their relationship with Orange is somewhat independent) have
just started offering the Nokia 9300, whereas O2 stores have just started
offering the 9300i....
b) more minutes for my money.
I've found that O2 coverage is better in some places than Orange used to be,
and vice versa. A colleague has commented that conversations whilst I am
driving last longer on O2 than they did on Orange (in other words I lose the
signal less). I'm in rural Shropshire.
Si.
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| On 19 Feb 2006 20:33:06 GMT, Ian Stirling <root@mauve.demon.co.uk>
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>And to add to the other comments - O2, orange barely gets a signal
>anywhere in the house.
I'd have to agree with that - and was the reason I dumped Orange. At
my location, outside, I get full bars from both O2 and Orange. Inside,
it changes little for the O2 phone, but often lose the signal
altogether. I've "lost" so many calls where the phone hasnt rung
(presumably because my signal was reading zero) that Orange had to go.
Having said that, its a very subjective. Where my sister lives in the
cotswolds, they have zero 02 signal but Orange is good.
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| hairydog@despammed.com 2006-02-19, 11:48 pm |
| On 19 Feb 2006 14:51:51 -0800, "Jonathan Morris"
<j.morris@jmcomms.com> wrote:
>Whatever happened to Orange promising blanket coverage of the national
>railway network (ISTR late 2003), though?
France Telecom happened.
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| Ian Stirling 2006-02-20, 5:48 am |
| Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
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> "Ian Stirling" <root@mauve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Surely this is entirely dependent on where you are at the time..?! Here in
> my house I get an endstop signal from all networks except T-Mobile, but
> that doesn't mean that someone else won't get a good signal from them.
Nope, it's the same anywhere in my house...
I was just trying to point out that networks do vary. And in addition,
networks that are at 900Mhz have a very, very significant advantage in
working through obstructions like thick or damp walls if not right next
to the tower.
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"Turbohat" <xyz@xyz.com> wrote in message
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> Generally and very approximately, which comes off best for coverage?
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> Ta
As a BTS engineer I have worked on contracts on both networks.
As a paying customer I have used both Orange and O2.
For work phones I have had Voda, Orange and o2.
It all depends on where you are in the country and what suits. It is true
that a 900 signal will travel further, 1800 used to be advertised as
offering better quality speech but cant say I notice a difference nowadays.
This is why Orange have more BTS's, they have to have more as they hav'nt
such a large coverage from each one.
A few years ago when I moved from orange to o2 I found that the o2 signal
was rather poor and so jumped back to Orange but now I am back on o2 and
find their coverage much much better than before and better than orange.
S
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"Turbohat" <xyz@xyz.com> wrote in message
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> Generally and very approximately, which comes off best for coverage?
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> Ta
In Scotland it's O2 or Vodafone
Clive
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| hairydog@despammed.com 2006-02-21, 5:49 pm |
| On 20 Feb 2006 08:53:48 GMT, Ian Stirling <root@mauve.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
>And in addition,
>networks that are at 900Mhz have a very, very significant advantage in
>working through obstructions like thick or damp walls if not right next
>to the tower.
True for all buildings that have no doors or windows, and have no
steel reinforcing grids.
In the real world, however, the advantage is just as likely to be with
1800.
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| Matthew Long 2006-02-21, 11:48 pm |
| This is such a 'General' question. You can't sum up the coverage of the
whole country like that!
If you used your phone mainly in the Scottish highlands, it'd only be a
choice of 2 networks - Vodafone / 02
Where I am (West Dorset), Orange is probably the worst of all the networks.
They have slightly better 3G coverage in a couple of towns. But GSM coverage
is "unbelievably" bad.
OK, some parts where I go can be very remote, but 9.9 times out of 10 - if
at least one network will be missing when I do a network search, it'll be
Orange.
Of course, someone else, in another part of the country will have opposite
results to me.
Matthew Long
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| Jon Pitts 2006-02-26, 5:48 pm |
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> "Turbohat" <xyz@xyz.com> wrote in message
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> In Scotland it's O2 or Vodafone
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> Clive
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Where in Scotland? I could quote parts of Scotland where the complete
opposite is true - geographically it's a pretty big place!!
Seriously though, where are you thinking about?
Jon.
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| Jon Pitts 2006-02-26, 5:48 pm |
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"Matthew Long" <no_sp@m.net> wrote in message
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> This is such a 'General' question. You can't sum up the coverage of the
> whole country like that!
> If you used your phone mainly in the Scottish highlands, it'd only be a
> choice of 2 networks - Vodafone / 02
>
As I've just posted elsewhere in this thread, I'm genuinely not sure this is
the case anymore. I tend to do a fair bit of travelling around the Highlands
once a year (around March), and Orange has slowly (but noticeably) improved
over the past few years.
I'm back up there at the end of next week (Loch Lomond, Skye and Perthshire
this time) if it makes any difference.
Regards
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| Jon Pitts 2006-02-26, 5:48 pm |
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"Jonathan Morris" <j.morris@jmcomms.com> wrote in message
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> Whatever happened to Orange promising blanket coverage of the national
> railway network (ISTR late 2003), though??
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The "railway project" as it's sometimes known, is still ongoing. My
understanding is that it's very much one of the priorities when planning
rollout of new coverage.
Regards
Jon.
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| S Viemeister 2006-02-26, 5:48 pm |
| Jon Pitts wrote:
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> "Matthew Long" <no_sp@m.net> wrote in message
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> As I've just posted elsewhere in this thread, I'm genuinely not sure this is
> the case anymore. I tend to do a fair bit of travelling around the Highlands
> once a year (around March), and Orange has slowly (but noticeably) improved
> over the past few years.
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> I'm back up there at the end of next week (Loch Lomond, Skye and Perthshire
> this time) if it makes any difference.
>
O2 has improved lately, too - there's an area a few miles away from me
which had no coverage at all, until recently. There is now some coverage,
but only O2, so far. Most of the time, though, Orange is just fine for me
(NorthWest Highlands, on the coast).
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| 4256745q6 2006-02-26, 5:48 pm |
| Straying a little off topic - but it is always worth remembering you
get better UK coverage with a non UK sim as while UK ones will stick to
their own network, foreign ones are roaming so can normally select any
UK one. So effectively you have coverage for all UK GSM/PCN networks
in one sim.
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| S Viemeister 2006-02-26, 5:48 pm |
| 4256745q6 wrote:
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> Straying a little off topic - but it is always worth remembering you
> get better UK coverage with a non UK sim as while UK ones will stick to
> their own network, foreign ones are roaming so can normally select any
> UK one. So effectively you have coverage for all UK GSM/PCN networks
> in one sim.
Yes - I've found that handy upon occasion.
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| Dave C 2006-02-26, 5:48 pm |
| 4256745q6 wrote:
> Straying a little off topic - but it is always worth remembering you
> get better UK coverage with a non UK sim as while UK ones will stick to
> their own network, foreign ones are roaming so can normally select any
> UK one. So effectively you have coverage for all UK GSM/PCN networks
> in one sim.
>
I do a lot of walking in some of the more remote spots of the UK. I
always carry my old trusty 6310i complete with my Riiing SIM. The last
time I used it that way was in the Yorkshire Dales when the only signal
available was T-Mobile!
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Dave C
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| Jon Pitts 2006-02-26, 5:48 pm |
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> O2 has improved lately, too - there's an area a few miles away from me
> which had no coverage at all, until recently. There is now some coverage,
> but only O2, so far. Most of the time, though, Orange is just fine for me
> (NorthWest Highlands, on the coast).
Out of interest, where are you? I'd be curious to check this on the maps
(and rollout plans).
Thanks
Jon.
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| S Viemeister 2006-02-26, 5:48 pm |
| Jon Pitts wrote:
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> Out of interest, where are you? I'd be curious to check this on the maps
> (and rollout plans).
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On the Kyle of Tongue - the area which is now (partly) covered by O2 is the
western half of the Moine. Orange coverage stops about halfway along the
road from the Kyle to Loch Hope.
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> "Clive" <someone@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Where in Scotland? I could quote parts of Scotland where the complete
> opposite is true - geographically it's a pretty big place!!
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> Seriously though, where are you thinking about?
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> Jon.
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Everywhere - I used to have a job driving ALL over Scotland. My personal
phone was Orange and my company phone Vodafone.
The Vodafone coverage was much better in 'remote' areas - far North West,
Islands
Clive
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> Jon Pitts wrote:
> O2 has improved lately, too - there's an area a few miles away from me
> which had no coverage at all, until recently. There is now some coverage,
> but only O2, so far. Most of the time, though, Orange is just fine for me
> (NorthWest Highlands, on the coast).
That wouldnt be Tongue area would it? New mast on top of Ben tongue put
there last year (you know, the one that JC drove up in a Disco3)
Steve
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> Jon Pitts wrote:
> On the Kyle of Tongue - the area which is now (partly) covered by O2 is
> the
> western half of the Moine. Orange coverage stops about halfway along the
> road from the Kyle to Loch Hope.
Ha, just read your prev post first and asked if thats where you lived!!
We were there Sept/october 2004 for a couple of days installing the BTS and
integrating it there. O2 had originally planned a different site a few miles
up the road (a shared cabin with Voda) but couldnt get comms to it so we
moved the BTS and PSU from there and took it to the new site and bought it
on air the following day. While we was there we saw loads of Disco3's been
road tested (pre-release) and then in 2005 saw the top gear clip of JC
getting the Disco stuck on Ben Tongue. Beautifill area up that way,
wonderful view from the top of Ben Tongue!! Nice trip up there too, not in a
Disco though, but a 8WD argocat!!
Steve
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| Jon Pitts 2006-02-26, 11:48 pm |
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> "Jon Pitts" <usenet@pitts50.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Everywhere - I used to have a job driving ALL over Scotland. My personal
> phone was Orange and my company phone Vodafone.
>
> The Vodafone coverage was much better in 'remote' areas - far North West,
> Islands
>
> Clive
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>
When was this? (Serious question - I'm interested).
Thanks
Jon.
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| David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of bess 2006-02-26, 11:48 pm |
| Jon Pitts <usenet@pitts50.co.uk> wrote:
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> When was this? (Serious question - I'm interested).
There was barely no coverage in the second largest town (and patchy in
the biggest) on Orkney when I was last there in June 2003. I hope it's
improved. I could pick up every other network on my phone when I
looked...
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| S Viemeister 2006-02-26, 11:48 pm |
| Steve wrote:
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> "S Viemeister" <firstname.lastname@which.net> wrote
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> That wouldnt be Tongue area would it? New mast on top of Ben tongue put
> there last year (you know, the one that JC drove up in a Disco3)
>
Yes, just across the Kyle from Tongue. The crew that filmed that show did
wonders for the local economy!
S.
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> "Clive" <someone@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> When was this? (Serious question - I'm interested).
>
> Thanks
>
> Jon.
>
I did the job mentioned (all over Scotland) between Feb 2001 and Nov 2004.
During that time Vodafone out performed Orange using the same phones (7110
and 6210).
I would say the Orange coverage lost out to Vodafone past Fort William area.
Clive
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| Boutros Boutros Ghali. 2006-02-27, 11:48 pm |
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> On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:57:30 -0000, "Matt Wheeler"
> <spam@007jbond.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
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> Cue Jim .................
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> R.
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I thought as you have all gone o2 you would now agree with me...............
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| Boutros Boutros Ghali. 2006-02-27, 11:48 pm |
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> I'd have to agree with that - and was the reason I dumped Orange. At
> my location, outside, I get full bars from both O2 and Orange. Inside,
> it changes little for the O2 phone, but often lose the signal
> altogether. I've "lost" so many calls where the phone hasnt rung
> (presumably because my signal was reading zero) that Orange had to go.
good man........
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| Boutros Boutros Ghali. 2006-02-27, 11:48 pm |
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> In Scotland it's O2 or Vodafone
>
> Clive
>
very true........
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