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| Barry M 2006-02-23, 5:48 pm |
| I've heard despite the ban on mobile phones and whether or not is
actually upheld, that various patient data is transfered using cheap,
free and easy bluetooth, which doesn't even cause interference in the
hospital. I also always thought the ban on mobile phones was down to
keeping the place quiet and not disturbing your fellow patients. So
they can heal in silence.
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| Barry M wrote:
> I've heard despite the ban on mobile phones and whether or not is
> actually upheld, that various patient data is transfered using cheap,
> free and easy bluetooth, which doesn't even cause interference in the
> hospital. I also always thought the ban on mobile phones was down to
> keeping the place quiet and not disturbing your fellow patients. So
> they can heal in silence.
>
Oh come on - do you REALLY need a reply? Bluetooth works on a
significantly different frequency to that of the phone transmissions.
Allegedly, the phone transmissions can in exceptional circumstances
interfere with some obscure machine the hospital may use (although in
reality I think it actually needs 1/2 dozen phone sitting on top of the
machine to actually have an adverse affect!)
Same as planes - so I guess there may be some truth somewhere!
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| Martin 2006-02-23, 11:48 pm |
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"DCA" < dcaMAPS860@MAPSyahoo
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> Barry M wrote:
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> Oh come on - do you REALLY need a reply? Bluetooth works on a
> significantly different frequency to that of the phone transmissions.
> Allegedly, the phone transmissions can in exceptional circumstances
> interfere with some obscure machine the hospital may use (although in
> reality I think it actually needs 1/2 dozen phone sitting on top of the
> machine to actually have an adverse affect!)
> Same as planes - so I guess there may be some truth somewhere!
Are all these bans on mobiles related to current mobile technology or do
they date back to the ancient early mobiles - the real bricks.
I thought that maybe current mobiles are no problem whatsoever and the
problem mobiles are now long gone....
Anyone care to comment?
Martin.
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| Rich Wilson 2006-02-23, 11:48 pm |
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"DCA" < dcaMAPS860@MAPSyahoo
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> Barry M wrote:
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> Oh come on - do you REALLY need a reply? Bluetooth works on a
> significantly different frequency to that of the phone transmissions.
Surely the important thing is that it uses only a tiny fraction of the power
a phone would use...?
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| Taylor 2006-02-23, 11:48 pm |
| "Martin" <zedolf@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "DCA" < dcaMAPS860@MAPSyahoo
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> news:wQmLf.70091$0N1.1217@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> Are all these bans on mobiles related to current mobile technology or do
> they date back to the ancient early mobiles - the real bricks.
> I thought that maybe current mobiles are no problem whatsoever and the
> problem mobiles are now long gone....
>
> Anyone care to comment?
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> Martin.
Many localised healthcare authorities have outdated equipment that still
functions correctly - I would suggest that the decreased risk offered by
newer mobile technology is offset against the huge number of people that now
own a mobile phone.
No point getting into technicalities, but let's just not use them on planes
or where we know we shouldn't :-)
Yes, that includes woman's changing rooms. I've seen your record
Martin!!!!!!!!!!!
NB: important to keep oneself amused at this time of the night.
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| > the phone transmissions can in exceptional circumstances interfere with
> some obscure machine the hospital may use (although in reality I think it
> actually needs 1/2 dozen phone sitting on top of the machine to actually
> have an adverse affect!)
> Same as planes - so I guess there may be some truth somewhere!
Its one thing for patients not to use one, but for the doctor to answer a
bloody call when you're in with them is stupid! And in a counselling session
too! I'm not crazy honest.
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> "DCA" < dcaMAPS860@MAPSyahoo
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> Are all these bans on mobiles related to current mobile technology or do
> they date back to the ancient early mobiles - the real bricks.
> I thought that maybe current mobiles are no problem whatsoever and the
> problem mobiles are now long gone....
>
> Anyone care to comment?
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> Martin.
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who knows. You're not supposed to use them at petrol stations either. Though
the Shell near me has a base station on its premises....
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| Ian Edwards 2006-02-24, 5:48 pm |
| Martin wrote:
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> Are all these bans on mobiles related to current mobile technology or do
> they date back to the ancient early mobiles - the real bricks.
> I thought that maybe current mobiles are no problem whatsoever and the
> problem mobiles are now long gone....
>
> Anyone care to comment?
>
> Martin.
>
In the early days of mobile phones there was a small risk of a mobile
interfering with some items of medical equipment, hence the ban on their
use.
Now though things have changed and designers of medical equipment should
be taking EMC (electro-magnetic compatibility) requirements into account
in their new designs and the risk of a mobile interfering with something
vital is greatly reduced. As other people in the thread have already
said, doctors use their mobiles on the ward and some hospitals even have
mobile base stations on their roofs.
So I think that the current ban is down to hospitals wanting two things.
Firstly peace and quiet in the wards and secondly and more
importantly, to force patients into using, at vast expense, the bedside
phone system supplied by the hospital. Hiding behind a ban for
ostensibly technical reasons that neither patient or visitors can argue
against is an easy option for them.
--
Ian Edwards
He's not dead, he's electroencephalograp
hically challenged.
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| Jonathan 2006-02-26, 11:48 pm |
| Ian Edwards wrote:
> So I think that the current ban is down to hospitals wanting two things.
> Firstly peace and quiet in the wards and secondly and more
> importantly, to force patients into using, at vast expense, the bedside
> phone system supplied by the hospital. Hiding behind a ban for
> ostensibly technical reasons that neither patient or visitors can argue
> against is an easy option for them.
>
Exactly. And hey, if you want to talk to your loved ones while you're in
hospital, well you should have thought about that *before* you got sick!
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