Cell Phones in Great Britain - Ready to jump the Orange ship

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Ready to jump the Orange ship - T-Mobile or Voda

linker3000

2006-05-29, 5:48 pm

Looking to port out 14 phones from Orange. T-Mobile's Business-1 looks a
nice fit for us but boss prefers Voda (probably only because he's heard
of them more than T-Mobile!) - anyone want to stick their neck out and
suggest who's better? Any decent Orange perks we are likely to miss?

One slight deciding factor will be that we have a few phone users in the
Cambridge (Soham) and Milton Keynes areas and the Orange signal there is
...well..crap..so can the others do any better?

Thanks

simonclark123@hotmail.com

2006-05-29, 11:48 pm

Who's better depends what you want/need.

For instance, if you want Microsoft push email, don't go to T-Mobile
(yet).

If you value Orange Care (comes free with Orange Business tariffs), no
other network can match this.

Price wise, T-Mobile's Business-1 tariff is unbeatable (inclusive mins
also include calls to a lot of Europe and USA/Canada, if that's of any
use to you).

I'm currently putting a large amount of business T-Mobile's way
(personally I've just moved to T-Mobile after nearly 10 years with
Orange).

I'd be happy to advise further should you wish (my email is my full
name with no dot at my full business name dot com).

I am always happy to lend out a tester phone so clients can test out
network strength in various locations prior to making a final decision.

Regards

Simon Clark
Business Telecoms

John Moppett

2006-05-29, 11:48 pm

linker3000 wrote:
> Looking to port out 14 phones from Orange. T-Mobile's Business-1 looks a
> nice fit for us but boss prefers Voda (probably only because he's heard
> of them more than T-Mobile!) - anyone want to stick their neck out and
> suggest who's better? Any decent Orange perks we are likely to miss?
>
> One slight deciding factor will be that we have a few phone users in the
> Cambridge (Soham) and Milton Keynes areas and the Orange signal there is
> ..well..crap..so can the others do any better?
>
> Thanks
I am not abusiness user, but have just abandoned Orange. I looked at
T-Mobile and Voda, and came to the conclusion that Voda has much better
coverage overall.

2006-05-29, 11:48 pm

On Mon, 29 May 2006 21:00:08 +0100, linker3000
<linker3000@google-minushyphenmail.com> wrote:

>Looking to port out 14 phones from Orange. T-Mobile's Business-1 looks a
>nice fit for us but boss prefers Voda (probably only because he's heard
>of them more than T-Mobile!) - anyone want to stick their neck out and
>suggest who's better? Any decent Orange perks we are likely to miss?
>
>One slight deciding factor will be that we have a few phone users in the
>Cambridge (Soham) and Milton Keynes areas and the Orange signal there is
>..well..crap..so can the others do any better?
>
>Thanks

Can't honestly speak about them from a Business point of view, but
I've just moved to Voda, and it's been a bit of a disaster. Fair
enough, mostly because of the shop I bought it in, but I've found
their Customer Services really poor - I got the impression they were
clicking through the same 'Help' program as is on their website when
I was having GPRS problems.

Anyway, here's the thread where I laid out all the various mistakes
they've managed:

http://tinyurl.com/nf8og

And I'm not bitter. Really.

David Hearn

2006-05-30, 5:48 pm

linker3000 wrote:
> Looking to port out 14 phones from Orange. T-Mobile's Business-1 looks a
> nice fit for us but boss prefers Voda (probably only because he's heard
> of them more than T-Mobile!) - anyone want to stick their neck out and
> suggest who's better? Any decent Orange perks we are likely to miss?
>
> One slight deciding factor will be that we have a few phone users in the
> Cambridge (Soham) and Milton Keynes areas and the Orange signal there is
> ...well..crap..so can the others do any better?
>
> Thanks

I switched to T-Mobile and have been really pleased with them. Helpful
(English) CS staff who know what they're doing, explain what they're
doing, and solve things quickly.

After the problems I had with Orange, T-Mobile are a breath of fresh air.

D

Neil - Usenet

2006-05-30, 5:48 pm

"David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
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> linker3000 wrote:
>
> I switched to T-Mobile and have been really pleased with them. Helpful
> (English) CS staff who know what they're doing, explain what they're
> doing, and solve things quickly.
>
> After the problems I had with Orange, T-Mobile are a breath of fresh air.
>
> D

yup, if i left orange, i would go t-mod,

Steve Terry

2006-05-30, 5:48 pm

"linker3000" <linker3000@google-minushyphenmail.com> wrote in message
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> Looking to port out 14 phones from Orange. T-Mobile's Business-1 looks a
> nice fit for us but boss prefers Voda (probably only because he's heard of
> them more than T-Mobile!) -
<snip>
>
He's a wise man, Vodafone is the home for businessmen / serious users

T Mobile although improved is still 2nd rate, still not enough spent
on the network or addtional services.

Steve Terry

David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of bess

2006-05-30, 5:48 pm

Steve Terry <g4wwk@tesco.net> wrote:

> "linker3000" <linker3000@google-minushyphenmail.com> wrote in message
> news:447b52c4$0$6023
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> <snip>
> He's a wise man, Vodafone is the home for businessmen / serious users
>
> T Mobile although improved is still 2nd rate, still not enough spent
> on the network or addtional services.

I honestly don't think it makes a difference any longer. I think a
'serious' user should go for price...

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Steve Terry

2006-05-30, 11:48 pm

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
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> Steve Terry <g4wwk@tesco.net> wrote:
>
> I honestly don't think it makes a difference any longer. I think a
> 'serious' user should go for price.
>
So you don't want to make any calls?

e.g. T Mobile (and 3) are non existant at my house in Peacehaven (BN10)
Orange 1 bar
Voda 2 to 3 bars
O2 4bars+

and that's still fairly typical, T mobile and 3 just won't spend on network,
both would rather spend millions on patronising ads

Thankfully that's something O2 realised around 3 years ago and have much
improved since then.
e.g. 2 new main dualband BTS within 2 miles of here, Watford (WD25) in the
last 4 years.

Steve Terry

David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of bess

2006-05-30, 11:48 pm

Steve Terry <g4wwk@tesco.net> wrote:

> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
> prestwich tesco 24h offy" < this_address_is_for_
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> So you don't want to make any calls?

Yeah, that's right Steve, I don't make any calls. Seriously, there's no
longer this magic difference. I've used the other providers all over the
country, and really don't see any differentiation in quality. That part
of the game is over.

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Steve Terry

2006-05-31, 5:48 am

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy" < this_address_is_for_
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> Steve Terry <g4wwk@tesco.net> wrote:
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>
> Yeah, that's right Steve, I don't make any calls. Seriously, there's no
> longer this magic difference. I've used the other providers all over the
> country, and really don't see any differentiation in quality. That part
> of the game is over.
> David Horne
>
Ok i'll go and put my Virgin Sim back in a phone and watch the no service
screen

Steve Terry

Dave C

2006-05-31, 5:48 pm

Steve Terry wrote:
>
> Ok i'll go and put my Virgin Sim back in a phone and watch the no service
> screen

And tomorrow I'll switch on my United Mobile SIM and not find any
network but T-Mobile.

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DaveC

David Hearn

2006-05-31, 5:48 pm

Steve Terry wrote:
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
> prestwich tesco 24h offy" < this_address_is_for_
spam@yahoo.com> wrote in
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ddress_is_for_spam@y
ahoo.com...
> So you don't want to make any calls?
>
> e.g. T Mobile (and 3) are non existant at my house in Peacehaven (BN10)
> Orange 1 bar
> Voda 2 to 3 bars
> O2 4bars+
>
> and that's still fairly typical, T mobile and 3 just won't spend on network,
> both would rather spend millions on patronising ads
>
> Thankfully that's something O2 realised around 3 years ago and have much
> improved since then.
> e.g. 2 new main dualband BTS within 2 miles of here, Watford (WD25) in the
> last 4 years.
>
> Steve Terry

The opposite was true for me. Our old office I got 1 bar for Orange,
nothing for Voda, 1 bar for O2 and 3 bars (full) for T-Mobile.

Similarly at home. Orange was okay - 1-2 bars depending on location.
Now I get 3 bars anywhere in the house.

Wife's parents (in Wales) is poor for Voda, T-Mobile and Orange though.

D

David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of bess

2006-05-31, 5:48 pm

Steve Terry <g4wwk@tesco.net> wrote:

> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
> prestwich tesco 24h offy" < this_address_is_for_
spam@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> <snip>
> Ok i'll go and put my Virgin Sim back in a phone and watch the no service
> screen

T-mobile (isn't that what they use?) works fine in my world.

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Steve Terry

2006-05-31, 5:48 pm

"David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Steve Terry wrote:
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> Wife's parents (in Wales) is poor for Voda, T-Mobile and Orange though.
> D
>
Now I know you're joking, whenever i've been to Wales (or lot of the west
country)
T Mobile coverage has been lousy.

Easy to find out if Voda is suitable, PAYT Sims 2quid, with 3 quid of
credit.
http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/index.cf...nly.viewsimonly

Steve Terry

Matthew Long

2006-05-31, 5:48 pm

there's no
> longer this magic difference. I've used the other providers all over the
> country, and really don't see any differentiation in quality. That part
> of the game is over.

That part of the game is FAR from over! Take a trip to Dorset, with an
Orange sim, then come back and tell me there's no difference!
Coverage is the most important thing, *Then* price / quality of service! A
phone is useless with no signal, and many *many* parts around here have no
Orange signal. I could take you on a 50 mile round trip with no O
signal.....

Matthew

Mr Woo

2006-05-31, 5:48 pm

On Wed, 31 May 2006 11:30:29 +0100, this_address_is_for_
spam@yahoo.com
(David Horne, _the_ chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and
prestwich tesco 24h offy) wrote:

>T-mobile (isn't that what they use?) works fine in my world.

Not where I live it doesn't. (Mid Cheshire stockbroker belt).

Steve Terry

2006-06-01, 5:48 pm

Jimbo.....

2006-06-02, 5:48 am

> I've been disappointed with Orange coverge around parts of east sussex,
> with T Mobile being worse
> My primary phones are now on O2 and Voda
>
> Steve Terry
>
that is because they are 1800Mhz only systems........

David Hearn

2006-06-02, 5:48 pm

Steve Terry wrote:
> "David Hearn" <dave@NOswampieSPAM.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:e5jmp2$g0g$1@sl
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> <snip>
> Now I know you're joking, whenever i've been to Wales (or lot of the west
> country)
> T Mobile coverage has been lousy.
>
> Easy to find out if Voda is suitable, PAYT Sims 2quid, with 3 quid of
> credit.
> http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/index.cf...nly.viewsimonly
>
> Steve Terry
>
>

I think you'll find that I was saying that all 3 were poor in that
particular part of Wales.

D

Jon Pitts

2006-06-20, 12:33 pm

"Matthew Long" <no_sp@m.net> wrote in message
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> there's no
>
> That part of the game is FAR from over! Take a trip to Dorset, with an
> Orange sim, then come back and tell me there's no difference!
> Coverage is the most important thing, *Then* price / quality of service! A
> phone is useless with no signal, and many *many* parts around here have no
> Orange signal. I could take you on a 50 mile round trip with no O
> signal.....
>
>

Apologies for being a bit behind with the discussion here....

With a bit of thought, I could do the same thing for a couple of the
networks in the more remote parts of Wales and Scotland - so whilst broadly
agreeing with the OP for the built-up parts of the UK, I'm with Matt when it
comes to the remote areas. I even found a new area of "two network-land"
(Orange & O2 FWIW) not 15 miles from Bristol the other week, that I didn't
know about despite having lived here as long as I care to remember.

Regards

Jon.

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