Cell Phones in Great Britain - Always a fixed-line number connected a non-geo number?

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Always a fixed-line number connected a non-geo number?

Lemmo

2007-11-22, 7:33 am

Is there always a number for a normal fixed-landline connected to an
0844 (0845, 0870, 0871, etc) number?

If there is then could I always ring the fixed line number instead of
the 0844 number?

Or are there ways in which the owner can switch the normal number off
and that way make sure I use the 0844-type number.

Rev Adrian Kennard

2007-11-22, 7:33 am

Lemmo wrote:
> Is there always a number for a normal fixed-landline connected to an
> 0844 (0845, 0870, 0871, etc) number?
>
> If there is then could I always ring the fixed line number instead of
> the 0844 number?
>
> Or are there ways in which the owner can switch the normal number off
> and that way make sure I use the 0844-type number.

This has been discussed just a few threads ago!

Often there is a fixed number as the way most telcos used to handle
these involved routing the calls to one or more fixed numbers (dependant
on time of day or other factors).

However, this is *NOT* always the case and some such numbers can be
handled without any translation involved.

--
Adrian Kennard, on his Mac...
Andrews & Arnold Ltd. Communications specialists. www.aaisp.net.uk
New UK Wide 03 phone numbers available now.

Gerry $The MOTH$

2007-11-22, 7:33 am

Lemmo

2007-11-23, 12:33 pm

> Lemmo wrote:

On Thu 22 Nov 2007 12:22:42, Rev Adrian Kennard <a@k.gg> wrote:[color=darkred
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>
> This has been discussed just a few threads ago!
>

My mistake! Apologies.

News Reader

2007-11-23, 10:33 pm

"Lemmo" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
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> Is there always a number for a normal fixed-landline connected to an
> 0844 (0845, 0870, 0871, etc) number?
>
> If there is then could I always ring the fixed line number instead of
> the 0844 number?
>
> Or are there ways in which the owner can switch the normal number off
> and that way make sure I use the 0844-type number.

Hi,

Whilst non geo numbers can be terminated without redirection to a geographic
number:

0845 # <--> Telco Switch Equipment / Network Etc. <--> Termination Point

Where termination point can be:

- VoIP connection
- direct to premises dedicated line (e.g. data ISDN, fibre, etc., etc.)
- redirection to a geographic number
- other

The more fundamental point is that some people cannot call 0845 / 0870 / 08x
etc. numbers (e.g. some callers from abroad, some callers using telcos that
do not terminate to 08x numbers, etc., etc.). Hence, such organisations
(Local Authorities, GP's, etc., etc.) generally are required to, should or
need to maintain or have at least one geographic number on which such
restricted parties are still able to call them. (Particularly, their may be
emergencies in which such a restricted party seeks to notify the party they
are calling of an emergency concerning that called parties affairs,
operations or facilities, only having a potentially uncallable NGN 08x type
number is extremely foolish to say the least and potentially down right
negligent, etc., etc.).

A side upshot of this is that whatever geographic number you do find or get
given, may not necessarily provide the same exact point of termination or
facilities / services of the NGN 08x number - e.g. it may not connect to the
same or any call centre; it may terminate directly to a single individuals
desk rather than offering an IVR menu of options; etc. etc. (may not support
out of hours, advanced functions, access to operator or may terminate direct
to operator only, etc., etc.).

Best wishes,

News Reader

Lemmo

2007-11-26, 4:33 am

On Fri 23 Nov 2007 22:29:25, News Reader <no@email.invalid> wrote:

> Whilst non geo numbers can be terminated without redirection to a
> geographic number:
>
> 0845 # <--> Telco Switch Equipment / Network Etc. <--> Termination
> Point
>
> Where termination point can be:
>
> - VoIP connection
> - direct to premises dedicated line (e.g. data ISDN, fibre, etc.,
> etc.) - redirection to a geographic number
> - other

Thanks for the detailed posting. I have got to be honest and say I am
not at all clear what you mean in your opening sentence:

Whilst non geo numbers can be terminated without
redirection to a geographic number:

0845 # <--> Telco Switch Equipment / Network Etc.
<--> Termination Point

I am sure it will make good sense but only once I have had it explained!

Can you or someone spell it out a bit for me. Thanks.

News Reader

2007-11-27, 3:33 pm

"Lemmo" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri 23 Nov 2007 22:29:25, News Reader <no@email.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks for the detailed posting. I have got to be honest and say I am
> not at all clear what you mean in your opening sentence:
>
> Whilst non geo numbers can be terminated without
> redirection to a geographic number:
>
> 0845 # <--> Telco Switch Equipment / Network Etc.
> <--> Termination Point
>
> I am sure it will make good sense but only once I have had it explained!
>
> Can you or someone spell it out a bit for me. Thanks.

Hi,

Lol... Thanks for your post / reply...

In short... it is, as I subsequently thought... not necessarily the best or
an overly clear structure... but works on the premise or format basis of (I
think, assume or understand based on how awake or asleep I may have been
when writing it and whether it actually makes any sense at all) :

Example: "Whilst X can be Y... 'some details poorly punctuated'... leading
on to [with the word 'but' missing]... Z is the real issue".

Hope that helps a bit... try running all of the first thirteenish lines
together (as one sentence ish).

Others will doubtless be able to expound more fully on the proper names for
the attempted type of (English) language structure I was aiming for... etc.?

Best wishes,

News Reader

P.s. In short call it bad punctuation / structure (or short / slap dash
hand), etc. :)

News Reader

2007-11-27, 3:33 pm

"News Reader" <no@email.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Lemmo" <mail@mail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Hi,
>
>

<SNIP>

For the sake of being even more OTT (read: specific or [potentially]
helpful) about it:

"

Whilst non geo numbers can be terminated without redirection to a geographic
number (**START OF OPEN BRACKET** here follows a quick in parenthesis
overall structure or system example:

0845 # <--> Telco Switch Equipment / Network Etc. <--> Termination Point

Where termination point can be:

- VoIP connection
- direct to premises dedicated line [e.g. data ISDN, fibre, etc., etc.]
- redirection to a geographic number
- other **END OF OPEN BRACKET**)

.... the more fundamental point is that ... etc.

"

Hope that helps.

Best wishes,

News Reader

:)

Bill G

2007-12-09, 7:33 am

On Tue 27 Nov 2007 20:24:11, News Reader <no@email.invalid> wrote:

>
> "News Reader" <no@email.invalid> wrote in message
> news:lS_2j.50045$T8.37924@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>
>
> <SNIP>
>
>
> For the sake of being even more OTT (read: specific or
> [potentially] helpful) about it:
>
> "
>
> Whilst non geo numbers can be terminated without redirection to a
> geographic number (**START OF OPEN BRACKET** here follows a quick
> in parenthesis overall structure or system example:
>
> 0845 # <--> Telco Switch Equipment / Network Etc. <--> Termination
> Point
>
> Where termination point can be:
>
> - VoIP connection
> - direct to premises dedicated line [e.g. data ISDN, fibre, etc.,
> etc.] - redirection to a geographic number
> - other **END OF OPEN BRACKET**)
>
> ... the more fundamental point is that ... etc.
>
> "
>
> Hope that helps.
> Best wishes,
> News Reader
> :)
>

Hello news reader, I guess neither you nor I have any idea what you were
talking about.

Seems to be your beer that's been speaking! Have fun. At least when
you wake up in the morning you probably won't remember any of it.

:-)

News Reader

2008-02-27, 10:33 pm

"Bill G" <billgates@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue 27 Nov 2007 20:24:11, News Reader <no@email.invalid> wrote:
>

<SNIP>

[color=darkred]
>
>
> Hello news reader, I guess neither you nor I have any idea what you were
> talking about.
>
> Seems to be your beer that's been speaking! Have fun. At least when
> you wake up in the morning you probably won't remember any of it.
>
> :-)

:)

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